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Title: Race engine?
Post by: gav600 on 05 January 2015, 13:06

Hi , last year i bought a mk3 gti track car, its stripped out , roll caged, kw variants all round with polly bushes, vr6 breaks with green stuff running on toyo semi slicks, its great fun round a track and embarrasses some semi serious machinery round the smaller tracks.

The engine is a 2.0 16v and is a little under powered for the bigger tracks, its also done 160,000 miles of which the last 5000 have been thrashed senseless so its time for a engine swap so....

I want above 200bhp ( my road toy is a 300 bhp mk5 r32)

I'll do some of the work my self and have a race mechanic as a friend who'll help out for friend prices

I don't mind swapping the box for what ever fits

I've got 3-4 grand

If you were me what would you do???

Title: Re: Race engine?
Post by: spikenipple on 05 January 2015, 13:12

For that money you could probably get a MK5 2.0T engine in there, although I don't know what's involved in getting one of those to fit.
The MK4 1.8T is a fairly common swap and there are plenty of people on here that have done it with great results. Have a look through the MK4 section and you'll see that you can get decent power out of these engines too!

Title: Re: Race engine?
Post by: th3_f15t on 05 January 2015, 16:17

There's not many 2.0 litre TSFI swaps into mk3's I've seen, but that's more of a reason to do it. You can pick up a CDL/BHZ engine (from an S3 or mk5 ED30 GTI) which has the K04 turbo and stronger internals, little effort results in 300bhp or more.

I think there's a fair bit of electrical trickery and VCDS coding requires to get such a modern engine happy in an older car but it's possible. Seen a 2.0 litre TFSI in a mk2 Rallye. :laugh:

Title: Re: Race engine?
Post by: barrym381 on 05 January 2015, 18:53

buy a cheap 1.8t mk4 use all the bits you need then sell the rest and buy a bbt k300 then a map by r-tech cost you way less than 3k  :smiley: or just buy 1 already done for 3k sell your own

Title: Re: Race engine?
Post by: gav600 on 06 January 2015, 13:03

MMMmm, i like the idea of a modern 2.0 turbo but i can get a reliable 300bhp form a 1.8 turbo ( il do forged internals) .....


cheers gents, lots to think about

p.s the r32 has to go
black 4 door

miltex
kw variants all round
schrick cams
revo re pam
revo gearbox re map
3sdm 0.05's on stretched falken 452's ( original wheels with it)
new top end rebuild when the cams were done
new steering rack
full respray last year
meticulously maintained and serviced

Just bought a xfr jag

Maintained

Title: Re: Race engine?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 06 January 2015, 15:26

Why don't you rebuild it's original engine but to cater for a big turbo.

Title: Re: Race engine?
Post by: madmanmart on 06 January 2015, 18:27

Go for a 1.8T, cheap reliable power.

Title: Re: Race engine?
Post by: Sam on 06 January 2015, 18:51

If you have 4k to spaff:

Getting a 1.8t out of a MK4 in, running and mapped will do you for 200BHP or a zaust plus a few other bits will see you running 230ish with a 'stage 2 map'. So, that's £2k gone. Now spend the remaining 2k on tyres, brakes fuel and track-day burger vans.

Title: Re: Race engine?
Post by: Wayne on 12 January 2015, 22:03

Go for a 1.8t setup, with a map will be great fun in a mk3

Title: Re: Race engine?
Post by: Adam on 20 January 2015, 10:37

I'd for one go for the 1.8T on OEM/Emerald management.

Ditch the greenstuff pads. No better than OEM.