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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Jonny_D_1987 on 09 December 2014, 23:38

Title: Advice Please :)
Post by: Jonny_D_1987 on 09 December 2014, 23:38
Hey guys, need a little bit of advice. So almost 3 years ago i took delivery of my MK6 GT TDI 2.0. I had planned all along to pay the final payment and keep it. But over the past few months I have noticed a problem which seems to be within the dual mass flywheel. I think I may have spoke about it on this forum but basically sometimes when its cold, as im coming off the clutch in first gear i get quite a bad shuddering, the kinna shuddering you would get if the engine was going to konk out. This would last for a few minutes, every time i come off the clutch in first then it would disappear as she warms up.

I took it to the dealer and they told me the flywheel is indeed shuddering but is not bad enough for VW to pay for a replacement as it is costly (around 3k i believe) The guy said to bring it in a few weeks early for its service before the warranty runs out and we will "go from there". I dont want to keep this car if VW are not going to replace this for me as I will be getting hit with a huge bill. I probably should have argued the point that it is not normal for a car not even 3 years old needing this sort of work done.

What should i doooooooooo :/
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: golfhappy on 09 December 2014, 23:49
Suppose you can return to dealer and get another car if you don't want to keep it? give them the heartache or find a clutch specialist who'll give you the technical advice on premature permanent failure if you get my drift. The one i had was an 11 plate 2.0 gt tdi and the workmate that bought it had to do the clutch at 35k.
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: Rhyso on 10 December 2014, 16:18
3K for a flywheel!!?? :huh: :shocked: :grin: :grin:

At most the entire job using genuine parts should be £600-£800 depending on how cheap you can get it fitted

Equally a clutch / flywheel are wear and tear items so expecting it to be covered under warranty at the end of nearly 3 years is a bit optimistic.  If it failed within the first 6 months then yes I'd argue it

How many miles have you done??
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: JC on 10 December 2014, 19:09
all down to the mileage  :huh:

and the garage told me the same when i bought mine  :laugh: :grin:

 it will never go back to that dealer :lipsrsealed: :whistle:
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: Jonny_D_1987 on 15 December 2014, 21:50
Suppose you can return to dealer and get another car if you don't want to keep it? give them the heartache or find a clutch specialist who'll give you the technical advice on premature permanent failure if you get my drift. The one i had was an 11 plate 2.0 gt tdi and the workmate that bought it had to do the clutch at 35k.

Thats the thing tho I actually love the car and really want to keep it but the whole Clutch thing is freaking me out a little, Clutch replacement at 35k? Was the flywheel OK then I take it?
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: Jonny_D_1987 on 15 December 2014, 21:52
3K for a flywheel!!?? :huh: :shocked: :grin: :grin:

At most the entire job using genuine parts should be £600-£800 depending on how cheap you can get it fitted

Equally a clutch / flywheel are wear and tear items so expecting it to be covered under warranty at the end of nearly 3 years is a bit optimistic.  If it failed within the first 6 months then yes I'd argue it

How many miles have you done??

£600-£800 sounds ALOT better to me lol Shes only done 22k. I just keep thinking about how much the car cost me and think why should a car thats not even 3 year old be showing signs of it needing a Flywheel replacement? I drive it like a baby 98% of the time, surely thats not normal ?
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: JC on 15 December 2014, 21:53
if it needs a new clutch and flywheel at 22k then  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: Jonny_D_1987 on 15 December 2014, 21:57
if it needs a new clutch and flywheel at 22k then  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

My thoughts exactly!
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: Jonny_D_1987 on 15 December 2014, 21:57
all down to the mileage  :huh:

and the garage told me the same when i bought mine  :laugh: :grin:

 it will never go back to that dealer :lipsrsealed: :whistle:

Did you have similar issues? What did you do about it? To be fair ever since ive got the car back, it has not done it once which is strange, even in -2/-3 temps and I usually felt it more in the cold, so strange
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: JC on 15 December 2014, 22:00
no issues with the clutch  :lipsrsealed: he says trying not to jinx it :whistle:

more problems with the dealer who after i drove away were about as much use as a chocolate teapot  :rolleyes:

it wont be going back to them for a wash let alone warranty or servicing  :angry:
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: Rhyso on 15 December 2014, 22:01
When you say drive it like a baby are you short shifting / pulling from low rpm in high gears??

Just trying to understand how you drive as often that will determine if its either you or the part at fault

22k is not good........

Speak to your local Trading Standards for advice  :smiley:  DO NOT ring Consumer Direct or CAB; they are next to useless.......
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: Jonny_D_1987 on 19 December 2014, 14:27
When you say drive it like a baby are you short shifting / pulling from low rpm in high gears??

Just trying to understand how you drive as often that will determine if its either you or the part at fault

22k is not good........

Speak to your local Trading Standards for advice  :smiley:  DO NOT ring Consumer Direct or CAB; they are next to useless.......

I work in an airport around 20 odd miles away and its basically a straight road so 6th gear 57mph cruise control on there and back, and any other driving is mainly motorway driving, i try not to labour the engine as i know this aint good. I do give her a little stretch of the legs on the motorway the odd time obviously only while warm. I dont think my driving style is at fault?

Would Trading Standards help me with this ?
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: Rhyso on 20 December 2014, 10:29
They can advise better than a bunch of people on the internet  :wink:

They are free to use and will tell you if you have a case to argue  :smiley:
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: M3 SHAM on 02 January 2015, 14:19
I wouldnt worry about this too much... my 2009 GT TDI 140 started doing this over a year ago now at around 80-85k miles.  I fully prepared myself for a clutch/flywheel change but over a year later it is touching 100,000 miles and has not got any worse.
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: chris1h on 02 January 2015, 15:37
hey mate!
for one if its still under 3 years dont leave this any longer. Its still in the warranty time i would be demanding even if they class it as a "wear and tear" they replace it now! or fix whatever problem is. who have you been speaking to @ VW? if just the servicing person demand someone higher. if no better then just go to the director of the branch/region.  See whats said but if nothing else threaten with going to auto express and some major magazines about the problem. possibly speak with VW uk as my past experience the dealers lie through there teeth to what they should be doing. if your in the finance where you baloon payment you can always just give them the car back? worry over to which surely they would be replacing this "fault" before putting it into there "approved used" anyway which would question why they are so reluctant to do it under your warranty...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: Jonny_D_1987 on 04 January 2015, 19:58
I wouldnt worry about this too much... my 2009 GT TDI 140 started doing this over a year ago now at around 80-85k miles.  I fully prepared myself for a clutch/flywheel change but over a year later it is touching 100,000 miles and has not got any worse.

Exact same thing mate ? Thats reassuring knowing that yours did it and its still going strong, it didn't do it for a few weeks there, then the other morning it did it pretty bad once and hasn't done it again, its so random
Title: Re: Advice Please :)
Post by: Jonny_D_1987 on 04 January 2015, 20:03
hey mate!
for one if its still under 3 years dont leave this any longer. Its still in the warranty time i would be demanding even if they class it as a "wear and tear" they replace it now! or fix whatever problem is. who have you been speaking to @ VW? if just the servicing person demand someone higher. if no better then just go to the director of the branch/region.  See whats said but if nothing else threaten with going to auto express and some major magazines about the problem. possibly speak with VW uk as my past experience the dealers lie through there teeth to what they should be doing. if your in the finance where you baloon payment you can always just give them the car back? worry over to which surely they would be replacing this "fault" before putting it into there "approved used" anyway which would question why they are so reluctant to do it under your warranty...  :whistle:

Thanks very much for your reply :) The service guy said to ring a month before my warranty ends and "we will go from there" I said to him its shocking that a car of this age, price and mileage is having this kinna issue and he just kinna nodded at me lol you have a point there if i was to hand the car back, they would have to fix it anyway before they sold it on, surely it would be easier for them to do it under my warranty as they can claim this back from head office?

I was planning on paying the final payment and keeping the car but this issue is putting me off + it has developed 2 or 3 really annoying creaks/rattles :(

Suppose i have a few months to decide lol