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Title: What would you do?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 08 December 2014, 16:53
Hi, will try keep this simple.

Ok I bought my Corrado G60 off ebay in the middle of January, it came with a private registraition that the previous owner was retaining and wasn't part of the deal and clearly listed as such. Also it was listed as having a recent charger rebuild at a stage 4 with documents to prove.

When i collected the car (January 15th 2014) I noticed a rattle coming from the engine under load and a bit down on power but wasn't overly concerned but a day later the piston melted so obviously the rattle I was hearing was detonation. So anyway the previous owner had all the docs so to sort out the plate but never sent anything off so by the time January 31st came round the road tax had expired and therfor could not go any further with it as the car was off the road with no engine and not in a position to tax it. They stated they sent the docs (V5, MOT, and retention forms) but i was in regular conversation with the dvla and they recieved nothing.

Onwards too the middle of April 2014, i've rebuilt another engine and fitted and ready for some road tax. We talk and they say they'll come up with the docs and help me tax it, you know the docs they already stated had been posted to the dvla but miraculously they still have them. I'm easy going so I go with the flow and they come out to mine and we go to my local post office and get tax and then they said they'd send off docs (again) the next day and supply me a tracking number which I was happy with. At this point they also said they couldn't find the charger rebuild proof so I phoned jabbasport with their inscribed serial numbers and they confirmed it as a stage 2 last done 15 years ago. :sick:

So the days and weeks go past and no tracking number and dvla still not recieved. Very little feedback from previous owner and then they stopped replying to me at the end of May in which I subsequently just applied for a V5 as was getting sick of running a car which was still not in my name. Never heard nothing back since.

Moving upto today, Dec 8th 2014. I'm not fussed about private plates so advertised it for sale and now all of a sudden they're back in touch wanting to sort it out and get their reg back. Said they'd lost my number previously despite them being able to contact me via two forums (not this one) and also via ebay but no effort was made on their part. Naturally i've told them the score, they want the reg they'll need to pay for it. Plenty chances were given. All a bit strange as was obviously in their best interests to sort it out.

I feel i'm in the right here, not committing any crimes but do feel a bit guilty but that's just the way I am. What would you do? Given I was kind of lied too about charger history which ultimately dictated my purchase. I wouldn't have bothered otherwise.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: JC on 08 December 2014, 18:59
fcuk em, Simples  :smiley:
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: tweed on 08 December 2014, 19:01
They lied about charger. They new engine was on way out and sold it.

No way would I sell them the plate. Sell the car with it on. If they want it then they can contact new owner after sale.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: JC on 08 December 2014, 19:04
and why ask as its already up for sale  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 08 December 2014, 19:11
Yeah well I figured i'd sell the plate and use that to get the charger rebuilt as it must be on like 50,000 miles now. They contacted me via an ad for it.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: barrym381 on 08 December 2014, 19:39
Moving upto today, Dec 8th 2014. I'm not fussed about private plates so advertised it for sale and now all of a sudden they're back in touch wanting to sort it out and get their reg back.
did you not advertise it weeks ago  :smiley:
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 08 December 2014, 20:30
Prob about a week ago. Should of mentioned that.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: barrym381 on 08 December 2014, 20:42
Prob about a week ago. Should of mentioned that.
well last week you would have sold it if someone gave you the cash  :evil: why bother about it now
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 08 December 2014, 21:29
Prob about a week ago. Should of mentioned that.
well last week you would have sold it if someone gave you the cash  :evil: why bother about it now

The guy got in touch with me today for the first time since May. I had assumed they we're simply not interested in getting it back considering I was easily located and had no response from my previous messages back then.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Waspy on 08 December 2014, 22:58
What they gunna do. Sell they the plate at a heavily inflated price. Clearly it means something to them. Monopolise on that. They sold you the car under false pretences.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 09 December 2014, 00:17
The orignal ebay listing described the private plate as 'already removed'. It was on the car when they bought it 2 years prior. I did sign a written reciept when I collected it stating that plate was not included as was to be retained, along with them forwarding new documents and reg number which obviously never happened. I mean what do they expect me to do it other than what I had to. Someone had to act and I was given no evidence to suggest they did, or were going to. It's not something that should be delayed. And it's not as if they have attempted to do it since as it would of been rejected by the dvla and myself notified.

Also looking back at listing the charger was actualy listed as a stage 3 at TSR. I don't think they do rebuilds and no other referencing exept for the jabba stage 2 markings, which I have documentation to verify.

I've removed the ads for the plate for the time being until it's resolved, I've stated I want something for it, it's their move now so see what happens.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Waspy on 09 December 2014, 08:12
Shouldn't you check with TSR that it's actually stage 3 then? Since you havnt done that yet? I know it doesn't affect the situation a great deal, but it reduces their dishonesty if it was done
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 09 December 2014, 11:56
Shouldn't you check with TSR that it's actually stage 3 then? Since you havnt done that yet? I know it doesn't affect the situation a great deal, but it reduces their dishonesty if it was done

There is no evidence on the charger to suggest it's been serviced by anyone other than JabbaSport. I've had it off and had a good look. As far as my research goes, TSR don't do G-Lader rebuilds.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Waspy on 09 December 2014, 12:00
Still think it's worth a quick message. Just before (too late) false accusations get banded about...
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 09 December 2014, 12:14
Still think it's worth a quick message. Just before (too late) false accusations get banded about...

No reputable company will rebuild them without putting their mark on it. The seller had TSR paperwork present when I bought the car, which miraculously disapeared and never came home with me. And when chased up about it became 'lost' so i'm thinking it was from another car. I never saw any references to charger rebuild on it. I'll admit I kind of had my blinkers on when I collected it as I was quite excited and probably should of picked up on a few things. I'll drop TSR a message and see if they have any details linked to registration.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Wayne on 09 December 2014, 21:42
There is no evidence on the charger to suggest it's been serviced by anyone other than JabbaSport. I've had it off and had a good look. As far as my research goes, TSR don't do G-Lader rebuilds.

Correct, they may have rebuilt the engine but would not have touched the charger, if they have done any work, have a look around the engine number, they always used to stamp a number that they could trace back.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 10 December 2014, 00:43
As mentioned the engine it came with failed after 24 hours, got a mk2 golf rallye engine in it now. Still have the bare block so will have a look but there was certanlly no recent work done to that engine and was in a very tired condition. Had a new distributor but that was done by a local garage.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Thom89 on 12 December 2014, 15:43
OP, if you have no attachment to the Plate, I'd be tempted to put it on retention, and give the previous owner a chance to buy back for the retention fee, plus a drink for yourself set a date, and if they have not come up with the money then stick it on eBay

Thom
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 12 December 2014, 19:40
They allready offered to pay the retention and a little bit extra but i declined. Simply bacause the communication wasn't very warm or addressed my concerns about the tsr tuning and charger paperwork in which it was listed for sale as having but never given. If they gave me that i'd quite happily hand over the plate. I've removed the sale ads just to give them a chance to act but not heard back for a few days now. The plates connected to the car so i'm happy to leave it there for now.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 13 January 2015, 14:34
Just a wee update on this.

Basically no response whatsoever from previous owner after I let them know I wanted something for it. So put it back up for sale at the turn of the year but if it doesn't sell this month it'll be left on the car.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: mwad gti on 16 January 2015, 23:02
Good call