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Title: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 01 December 2014, 11:57
The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it seems.

I think the Golf R has too many pipes. It looks like overkill and to be honest I feel it looks a bit chavvy.
Quad pipes with a 4cyl 2 litre petrol engine seems a bit OTT. Quad pipes should be reserved for 6 cyl+ engines with serious firepower. Perhaps and sensibly, there should be more cylinders than pipes. Even the R400 comes with twin centrally located pipes. Plus, one has to clean 4 pipes.

Would not dare post this on the R forum.

Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: Booth11 on 01 December 2014, 12:10
I agree it's overkill for a 4cyl and I much prefer the twin central pipes of the R400/420.  But what you gonna do, not get it just for that reason? I don't think so.

Better stock up on metal polish  :whistle:

No, best not ask on the R forum  :grin:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: Poached on 01 December 2014, 12:13
They did it because they needed to distinguish it from the other cars in the line up, 4 is too many on most cars.

Perhaps a tail pipe delete will become a future favorite mod.

Is the R forum populated by zealots or something?
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 01 December 2014, 12:24
They did it because they needed to distinguish it from the other cars in the line up, 4 is too many on most cars.
Perhaps a tail pipe delete will become a future favorite mod.
Is the R forum populated by zealots or something?

Zealots and then some!
The old English idiom boo to a goose comes to mind.
One has to pipe down significantly when posting.  :grin:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: matchboy on 01 December 2014, 12:28
I think they look the nuts, but then I would say that!  :grin:

As an aside, I tried 'Launch Control' yesterday (3 times) - insane amount of fun, hugely addictive and so very quick!  :cool:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: wigit on 01 December 2014, 12:35
i've never been a fan of the twin centres but would over come this on a R400, i would have preferred twin ovals
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: dubber36 on 01 December 2014, 12:41
How can you fit a towbar on a car with central pipes?

I do agree that four are too many on a Golf. It wasn't all that long ago that we were slating the Max Power brigade for doing the same.
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: virginVWman on 01 December 2014, 12:49
The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it seems.

I think the Golf R has too many pipes. It looks like overkill and to be honest I feel it looks a bit chavvy.
Quad pipes with a 4cyl 2 litre petrol engine seems a bit OTT. Quad pipes should be reserved for 6 cyl+ engines with serious firepower. Perhaps and sensibly, there should be more cylinders than pipes. Even the R400 comes with twin centrally located pipes. Plus, one has to clean 4 pipes.

Would not dare post this on the R forum.

My R comes in March, and I am inclined to agree with you, it is over kill, id have preferred two centre pipes to that of the R400.

On your note also, the R forum is bl**dy ridiculous at times. If you buck the trend and don't agree with anyone my god do you get shot down and almost feel like you shouldn't have spoken let alone signed up to the forum in the first place lol  :grin:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: wigit on 01 December 2014, 12:57
i think you just used to them in the end and it is good to see it may be taking part in the tow car of the year awards now

someone i know described that place as 'hostile' which i thought summed it up well and do not dare challenge a sponsor
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 01 December 2014, 12:59
You are damned if you do and damned if you don't on there.
I think a lot of R owners will start posting on here.
Also, learn much more on here.
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: virginVWman on 01 December 2014, 13:03
Monkeyhanger is deemed on here rather knowledgeable id say, but he gave an opinion on the R forum and he got lambasted!!!!! I think he went away in to the corner with his tails between his legs lol. All for expressing an opinion to do with GFV or something similar. Most of it is sh*te on there. One thread which is ridiculous is something like "what do you call your car"...sh*t chat move on lol
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: Exonian on 01 December 2014, 13:11
Kind of reminds me of how mk5golfgti used to be in the mk5 heyday.
I've never bothered much with rforum as I'm not an R owner but used to drop by to read up on things as general interest but was never impressed with the general attitude of some members. I'm sure the core members are fine but the ones that seem to dominate the place seem to be either loadsamoney willy waver types or people on cheap leases who will quite likely get fed up with the waits and cancel as they don't really have any affiliation to the marque. Not that I've been on there for ages so it may have settled down. I'll have a nose over there at some point. Like so many forums it was only the classifieds that ever interested me but this is the one forum that is actually quite good and the classifieds are the least relevant to me. The tuning side of the R forum used to interest me but now the GTI comes with 258 lb ft as standard at nice low revs I'm not even bothered about tuning anymore! Getting old I guess.

Anyway back on topic. Yes, the four pipes are overkill but are the only thing that sets the model apart from a Bluemotion Diesel.
The R is one of those cars that leaves me cold. I totally admire it in a technical sense but that's about it.
Mind you, I've not driven one so I'm sure it'd change my mind. And for that reason I won't drive one!
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 01 December 2014, 13:12
Monkeyhanger is deemed on here rather knowledgeable id say, but he gave an opinion on the R forum and he got lambasted!!!!! I think he went away in to the corner with his tails between his legs lol. All for expressing an opinion to do with GFV or something similar. Most of it is sh*te on there. One thread which is ridiculous is something like "what do you call your car"...sh*t chat move on lol

There are so many red lines. It is ridiculous. For a moment I thought I was bleeding profusely and had to rush to A&E!
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: wigit on 01 December 2014, 13:14
there is a bit too much 'alternatively to can get a XXX from our sponsor for me which achieves the end result..' for me




Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: wigit on 01 December 2014, 13:19
there is a bit too much 'alternatively to can get a XXX from our sponsor which achieves the end result..' for me

this forum is one of the best for having sponsor integration  :grin:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: Poached on 01 December 2014, 13:32
Why the GTI is better than the R.

Who's up for a flaming? :laugh:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 December 2014, 14:31
Quote from: virginVWman Bing =topic=271436.msg2486130#msg2486130 date=1417439018
Monkeyhanger is deemed on here rather knowledgeable id say, but he gave an opinion on the R forum and he got lambasted!!!!! I think he went away in to the corner with his tails between his legs lol. All for expressing an opinion to do with GFV or something similar. Most of it is sh*te on there. One thrread was which is ridiculous they said something like "what do you call your car"...sh*t chat move on lol

Yes I've been on the receiving end of both barrels a few times there, including a "friendly soul" that used to come here a lot to do nothing but troll. There's a 5 member Mafia team that keep the mods busy trying to keep it friendly. Basically, if you buy a manual you're an idiot, if you don't add £4k worth of options you're a poor idiot rather than questioning if VW extras are sometimes three times the price they should be. If you express concern that the GFV has dropped £3k and try to find out why and get on the old finance you were quoted for then you're an idiot/thief/fraudster. if you criticise VW in any way (even for crap paint), you're an idiot, if you don't have an R but can offer advice for an issue that isn't related to the engine then you're still an idiot because every component on the R is lovingly handcrafted and bears no resemblance to the exact same component on a GTI or GTD that we might have seen common issues for here. Some people there seemingly think their R is put together with the same care VW lavish on the Bentleys. There's a highly polarised set of people there - those that have chopped in an ancient Corsa/Clio 1.2  for a leaked R, hardly believing their luck at VW/leasors temporary generosity, and those who believe they are the elite of car drivers.
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 December 2014, 14:32
It's a lovely place. :whistle:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: matchboy on 01 December 2014, 14:52
It's a lovely place. :whistle:

I read you getting flamed on the R forum MH - I don't know what their problem is over there, you were more than helpful and informative!

My guess?  S7xual frustration  :laugh:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: dubber36 on 01 December 2014, 15:42
Some people there seemingly think their R is put together with the same care VW lavish on the Bentleys.

I was trying to get a mate to understand this when he collected an S4 earlier this year. He thought that paying out the sort of money he had on a car would mean that the workshop, valeters, salesman etc would treat him/it differently to someone buying a used A1
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 01 December 2014, 16:22
It is a dicktatorial place.
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: CraigW on 01 December 2014, 17:14
I'm going to have to get on the R forum and report these outrageous accusations  :grin:  :grin:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: wigit on 01 December 2014, 17:19
I'm going to have to get on the R forum and report these outrageous accusations  :grin:  :grin:

 :cry:

judas
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 01 December 2014, 20:49
I'm going to have to get on the R forum and report these outrageous accusations  :grin:  :grin:

 :cry:

judas

Be thankful you did not get his kiss in the Garden of Gethsemane! That would be fatal.
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: davyk31 on 01 December 2014, 21:23
AM never mind not posting this on the R forum, what about posting it on the F30 forum  :grin:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: carl1 on 01 December 2014, 21:36
They are silly but overall i prefer the look of the R over the GTI. The R Forum used to be alright when it was mainly MK6 owners but now it's mainly MK 7 and  they're almost as bad as some PS4 fanboys  :smiley:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 01 December 2014, 21:38
AM never mind not posting this on the R forum, what about posting it on the F30 forum  :grin:

Both of us have been gently flamed but in a gentlemanly way for going to the dark side. Myself partially as I still have a BMW. We are the VAGabonds. Apart from the M3/M4, the rest of the 3 Series have one or two really measly pipes and this has affected them psychologically! But it is an excellent forum with really great posters with a good sense of humour. And I will say this: my BMW is wonderful to own and drive.

Have you managed to tell them that your SQ5 beat the Macan and the BMW X4 in a recent comparative test in Car? The reactions would be hilarious!
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: Snoopy on 01 December 2014, 21:41
I think 4 pipes is overkill im sure they could have just come up with a more interesting shape pipes.
As for the R forum i left there ages ago just too many idiots asking stupid questions that could easily be answered if they bothered to RTFM.
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 01 December 2014, 21:47
I think 4 pipes is overkill im sure they could have just come up with a more interesting shape pipes.
As for the R forum i left there ages ago just too many idiots asking stupid questions that could easily be answered if they bothered to RTFM.

Hi Geoff! My sentiments totally. One has to repeat the same thing a million times and it never seems to register, ever.
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: davyk31 on 01 December 2014, 21:48
AM never mind not posting this on the R forum, what about posting it on the F30 forum  :grin:

Both of us have been gently flamed but in a gentlemanly way for going to the dark side. Myself partially as I still have a BMW. We are the VAGabonds. Apart from the M3/M4, the rest of the 3 Series have one or two really measly pipes and this has affected them psychologically! But it is an excellent forum with really great posters with a good sense of humour. And I will say this: my BMW is wonderful to own and drive.

Have you managed to tell them that your SQ5 beat the Macan and the BMW X4 in a recent comparative test in Car? The reactions would be hilarious!



There are a few annoying blinkered idiots over on F30post but in the main its a good forum.

Not sure I have read the Car review, how do you think a post along the lines of my SQ5 beat a Porsche would go down ....
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 01 December 2014, 21:53
AM never mind not posting this on the R forum, what about posting it on the F30 forum  :grin:

Both of us have been gently flamed but in a gentlemanly way for going to the dark side. Myself partially as I still have a BMW. We are the VAGabonds. Apart from the M3/M4, the rest of the 3 Series have one or two really measly pipes and this has affected them psychologically! But it is an excellent forum with really great posters with a good sense of humour. And I will say this: my BMW is wonderful to own and drive.

Have you managed to tell them that your SQ5 beat the Macan and the BMW X4 in a recent comparative test in Car? The reactions would be hilarious!
There are a few annoying blinkered idiots over on F30post but in the main its a good forum.
Not sure I have read the Car review, how do you think a post along the lines of my SQ5 beat a Porsche would go down ....

Or, My SQ5 thrashed the X4 and even beat the Macan! Fancy that!!!!  :laugh: :evil:
Oh go on. Brigand, Tengocity, dopper99, et al will be apoplectic!  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: dubber36 on 02 December 2014, 08:19
It seems that four pipes may be the 'in thing'. On page two of the linked thread is a Leon Cupra that just had an aftermarket pipe. www.tdisport.com/Forum/topic/8204-andrewjbs-mk3-leon-cupra-280/page-2
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: davyk31 on 02 December 2014, 10:54
Do you have a link to the Car review for the SQ5 am? Maybe I do need to point out to the F30post masses that an Audi beat a Porsche but they will need to see it in writing to believe an Audi beat a BMW!! :laugh:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 02 December 2014, 12:00
Do you have a link to the Car review for the SQ5 am? Maybe I do need to point out to the F30post masses that an Audi beat a Porsche but they will need to see it in writing to believe an Audi beat a BMW!! :laugh:

It is in the Sept Issue. Giant test between X4 3.0d/Macan Diesel/SQ5 by Ben Barry.
Unfortunately, I can't find a link. Sorry. :cry:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: Mark V GTD on 02 December 2014, 16:27
Excuse my ignorance - but what or where is this 'R forum ' ye speak of?
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 02 December 2014, 16:30
Excuse my ignorance - but what or where is this 'R forum ' ye speak of?

I'll give you a link:
http://www.rforum.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=39

Love to know what you think.
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: Mark V GTD on 02 December 2014, 17:44
Thanks for that - I will tip-toe in and take a look!  :sad:
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: am1w on 02 December 2014, 17:53
Thanks for that - I will tip-toe in and take a look!  :sad:

They have ICBMs all ready and primed!
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: MAW73 on 02 December 2014, 20:39
The twin centred exhausts on the Mk6 R look better imo.

Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: mrzen on 08 December 2014, 13:46
This guy clears things up and I tend to agree - according to his rules the GTI and R should have a single fat one in the middle...

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=27946
Title: Re: Too many pipes
Post by: GrahamFR on 08 December 2014, 17:23
It seems that four pipes may be the 'in thing'. On page two of the linked thread is a Leon Cupra that just had an aftermarket pipe. www.tdisport.com/Forum/topic/8204-andrewjbs-mk3-leon-cupra-280/page-2

BCS will have done that so they only need one design for the cupra and the R and the S3, but mines only got a single pipe on the end and it'll be the same design from there on back so you could change if you were an R owner feeling it was a bit too much...