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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: charv94 on 25 November 2014, 11:38
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Hi guys,
Going into the dealer this weekend to try and agree a price on my car and thus order a GTI,
Just a few questions about the working of keyless entry,
if i go up to the drivers door with the key in pocket and open the door, will this unlock the entire car, i.e. can a passenger also open there door.
does it work on the boot?
with starting the car say after a stall, is it as quick to get going again? i.e. the speed at which i can restart the ignition with key compared to restart with the button system, does it take a bit more time to get its act together
thanks in advance,
charlie
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Hi, the doors don't unlock just on proximity, there is a sensor in each of the front doors. Apologies if you already know this, I wasn't sure from your description.
Once you open the drivers door it pops open all of the doors. I think you can programme it to just do the drivers door if you prefer though.
If you approach the boot with the key in your pocket you can open it and then it will lock shut when closing. The passenger doors aren't unlocked in this scenario.
It auto restarts if you stall it...far quicker than faffing with the key too :)
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Hi
When you walk upto the car with the key in your pocket it stays locked until you grab the door handle at that point it unlocks, this works from the driver and front passenger door.
You can set the car in the infotainment system to unlock one door or all doors.
When you leave the car just touch the little groove on the door handle and the car locks all doors and you walk away.
The boot release unlocks just the boot, you put your stuff in the car, close it and the car locks automatically.
If you stall the car restarts as soon as you drop the clutch, its instant!
My only problem with the system is going back to our Skoda, which isn't keyless, I tend to just hop out touch the door handle and walk away leaving the keys in the ignition!
Its a great option, without a doubt I could live without it but it is a nice thing to have!
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As above, it works incredibly well. I can't imagine having a car without it now I've got used to it. The only situation when I would use the key is when my better half is out the house before me and she wants to get in the passenger side, she has to wait for me to get to the car to unlock it as the key is in it's nice leather wallet deep in the dark depths of my pocket.
That said, it's one of my favourite options and would tick it again (along with DCC) in an instant.
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Ok that has cleared it up for me! i think ill pop that onto the options list on the order this week!
cheers
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Gives the car a nice premium feel too :cool:
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What about this steal ability factor? http://www.driving.co.uk/news/how-thieves-hack-into-and-steal-keyless-entry-cars/ (http://www.driving.co.uk/news/how-thieves-hack-into-and-steal-keyless-entry-cars/)
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Id rather they stole my car like that.....better than coming in my house for the keys.
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Id rather they stole my car like that.....better than coming in my house for the keys.
True
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As above, it works incredibly well. I can't imagine having a car without it now I've got used to it. The only situation when I would use the key is when my better half is out the house before me and she wants to get in the passenger side, she has to wait for me to get to the car to unlock it as the key is in it's nice leather wallet deep in the dark depths of my pocket.
That said, it's one of my favourite options and would tick it again (along with DCC) in an instant.
Completely agree with all of this. Thought this was a gimmick and had I been speccing the car would never have added it. But I'm so pleased it was on the car and would never have a car without it now. Highly recommended!
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Do the keys have the lock/unlock/pop the boot and the blade just like the non keyless cars?? Also, do they have an ignition barrel which would allow it to function like a non keyles car??
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Yes, it looks like a normal key with all buttons and blade. There is a lock barrel in the driver's door hidden under the plastic cap which can be used to unlock the car in case the battery of the keyfob dies. Once you are inside the car, just touch the keyfob to the plastic where the normal ignition barrel would be (there is also a key pictogram grooved on that plastic) and push the Start button to start the engine.
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Once you are inside the car, just touch the keyfob to the plastic where the normal ignition barrel would be (there is also a key pictogram grooved on that plastic) and push the Start button to start the engine.
No need to hold it anywhere near there.... you can have it pretty much anywhere in the car (certainly anywhere around the front seats), I usually keep it in cup holder (unless there's a cuppa).
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Best option on the car without a doubt
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Once you are inside the car, just touch the keyfob to the plastic where the normal ignition barrel would be (there is also a key pictogram grooved on that plastic) and push the Start button to start the engine.
No need to hold it anywhere near there.... you can have it pretty much anywhere in the car (certainly anywhere around the front seats), I usually keep it in cup holder (unless there's a cuppa).
I think GeoBog was referring to if there was an issue like a low battery hence reference to hidden lock barrel in door
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No need to hold it anywhere near there.... you can have it pretty much anywhere in the car (certainly anywhere around the front seats), I usually keep it in cup holder (unless there's a cuppa).
That would be in a normal situation. I was referring to when the battery inside the keyfob is dead, then you will have to keep the key close to the plastic trim behind steering.
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This is something I've been interested in but never looked into.. if the key fob battery is completely dead and you need to manually open the door, how does the car recognise the fob to be able to start the engine.
TBH when I spec'd keyless I was actually expecting a normal ignition in the barrel as back up...
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Well that is the point of keeping the key fob close to the steering. Basically the fob hasn't got power to send the signal from the cip on long distance due to the dead battery so the receiver in the steering needs the cip inside the fob to be really close to be able to read it's signal.
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I went for keyless. I thought it would be one of those 'nice to have' options. I've only had my car 8 days and I view it as essential. Love it and well worth the cost.
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I've had my car 6 weeks now so I've finally started to read the manual!! I love this feature - particularly the boot opening - and now realise that to unlock the sensor is on the inside of the handle and the one on the outside is to lock. Had a few occasions where I've been stood there trying to open the door by touching the outer sensor before reverting to the button on the key.
Another feature I specced was High Beam Assist. I live in Devon and there are lots of unlit country roads. I used it for the first time this weekend and love it. So less stressful than having to panic and turn full beam off as a car comes round a bend towards you.
Annoyed I didn't spec Voice Activation but mainly because I have a button I can't use.
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Annoyed I didn't spec Voice Activation but mainly because I have a button I can't use.
Sure you can use it to mute the music.
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Yip great love it, especially when carrying kids about the place ! Deffo the best option I included, and I wouldn't be without it
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How does KESSY fare in the "some little scrote is trying to steal my car" stakes.
I had a long and involved story from a local dealer about how they got a keyless GTI stolen on a test drive, which I lost interest in as he couldn't really explain how it happened- especially as the salesman was with the "customer" at the time. But it got me thinking - how secure is keyless entry?
My GTI will come with it as standard, but on the face of it, I'm wondering what was wrong with an old fashioned key in the first place :)
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How does KESSY fare in the "some little scrote is trying to steal my car" stakes.
According to the cops its the current trendy way of stealing cars.
There is much debate about the veracity of this statement, but that's what the "experts" say.
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They won't steal your car without the keyfob, hence why the trend of braking into the house to get the key these days. True that some manufacturers such as BMW or JLR had issues some years ago were one could break the window and reprogram a new key in seconds then drive off with your car but these days cars are more secure from that point of view so they brake in to get the keys.
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Things have certainly moved on from a few years ago but for the worse by the looks of it.
There is currently a video on the London Evening Standard website of a guy strolling up to a keyless Range Rover recently & stealing it within 30 seconds without breaking the glass and presumably without the owners keys.
Technology can be overcome.
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More than a little worrying. Bad enough would be if some little bast**d tried to break into the house for the keys.
As I happen to collect a range of things like Sjamboks, cutlasses, cavalry swords and bayonets he'd be a foolhardy scrote to try - though I imagine none of us would come out of that encounter looking particularly virtuous :angry: :whistle:
But, yes, I've also read that the tech can be beaten in a variety of 'enterprising' ways. Which does make me wonder if manufacturers are getting a little ahead of themselves putting convenience over security.
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As they move into the digital domain with their products they are suddenly the new kids in an extremely hostile playground.
All non-computer companies find the same problem when they make their products internet accessible - the internet will find a way to f*** you up. Doesn't matter if its a mobile phone or a photocopier or a sewage treatment plant.
Unfortunately the purely for fun geek guys who like to tinker write this stuff up and then the scroats get simple instruction sheets with which they can cause havoc.
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Indeed. Bet those who write up the cheat sheets don't have keyless themselves. Or if they do, they keep a big dog in the back seat :nerd: