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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: GTD_777 on 18 November 2014, 19:18

Title: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: GTD_777 on 18 November 2014, 19:18
Just saw a video of the new Golf R estate.
I wonder how popular it will be. I guess its to challenge cars such as the Focus ST estate. Personally don't think it looks that great keep the R as a hatchback.

Watch "New Volkswagen Golf R estate revealed" on YouTube
New Volkswagen Golf R estate revealed: http://youtu.be/NKHUwA9yILg
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: andrewparker on 18 November 2014, 19:25
I can't say I'm that fond of the looks (though it will undoubtedly look much better in the flesh), but you can't argue with the practical advantages. It will suit my lifestyle down to a tee.

I can't see why you'd want them to keep it is as a hatchback just because you don't like the looks, VW are in the business of selling cars and they'll sell the R in as many guises as possible. I personally think it's a good move.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: GrahamFR on 18 November 2014, 20:00
More practical would be a Gti estate but I bet vw won't allow the name being put into an estate imo anyway
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: andrewparker on 18 November 2014, 21:35
Why would a GTI estate be more practical? If we're talking luggage capacity then VW are claiming the R estate has 605 litres, the same as a FWD MK7 estate. Not sure how that works mind.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: JB GTI on 18 November 2014, 22:02
Golf R Estate = Just wrong !!
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: GrahamFR on 18 November 2014, 22:03
I was thinking more from the co2, not needing all that power practicalityness not that you couldn't get as much luggage in an R estate. The Gti engine is more of a close match to the ST too, but I suppose it would compete too close to the vrs
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: cheets7 on 18 November 2014, 22:56
VW have a R in every line now including R line. Exclusivity is long gone. Anything to make money.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: andrewparker on 19 November 2014, 07:27
Do we think the R brand has the heritage to make exclusivity worthwhile?
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 19 November 2014, 07:56
VW have a R in every line now including R line. Exclusivity is long gone. Anything to make money.

The R line models basically have bodykits without the power so aren't the same as R cars which a re currently only available in Golf and Scirocco guise with the Polo coming shortly, VW have done an R estate before with the R36 Passat and they also did the R50 Touareg, i personally think it's great and will seriously be considering one.

Imo it's only the cheap deals that are/have been around that will affect exclusivity not the cars thrmselves.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: baser on 19 November 2014, 08:20
I would love one of these however the company car policy of Diesel, under 130g/km co2 and 4 or 5 door it will not be an option.  GTD estate on the other hand...................... could do with some more space than I have in the current mk7 GTD.  I did look at the Octavia VRS but it lacked the feel and the options on the Golf.  With the new Focus STD in the wings it cant be long before the GTD estate shows its face?
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: GrahamFR on 19 November 2014, 08:22
I drove an octavia for a good 10 metres the other day but god damn does it have the nicest seats i have ever ever sat in http://sniffpetrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/OctaviavRS3.jpg
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Flintymutt on 19 November 2014, 10:53
Golf R Estate = Just wrong !!

Actually it's just right!  I for one find the golf mk7 too impractical as a family car.  The boot doesn't fit much in as I find the distance from the back of the seats to the rear of the car is too short.  In fact, my wife has a Seat Ibiza which is better for boot space.

Would anyone on here turn down a RS4 avant? OK the engine is different but the format on what each is based upon is exactly the same but for around half the price!

I for one will be at the door when the order books open.  It's exactly what I'm looking for!
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: kodkod.84 on 19 November 2014, 11:33
I like the look of this- MK7 estate is much improved looks wise over the previous Golf wagons, I was following one the other day and mistook it for a Passat

My mrs who drives a MK5 GT sent me the top gear link saying she really likes this new R version- better get saving :)
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Exonian on 19 November 2014, 12:19
I 'get' the R estate thing and I can see the niche it's aimed at.
The R was never a GTI.
I can't see why an R estate won't sell in decent numbers so it should be a success for VW. It has appeal to a certain demograph and will be a pretty handy tool for well heeled mums and people who cdnt get their golf clubs in a Golf hatch.
A GTI estate/variant would be a crime.
I don't even like the idea of a GTD estate, I'd much rather see an R Line 184 TDI estate.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: JBirchy on 20 November 2014, 07:09
I love fast estates and it will no doubt be the route I go down when I need a larger family car. I think the R estate is a fantastic idea, like the baby cousin of the RS4 but as we all know, the R is an incredibly capable tool and with a bigger boot, it's a brilliant proposition.

I'm not sold on the looks, I reckon it looks just a tad too bland from the back end but I'll certainly be considering one in a couple of years when my PCP on the GTI hits the right time.

Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: andrewparker on 20 November 2014, 07:38
A few shots courtesy of Jalopnik. Love it.

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--bf8x12YT--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/w5xprj2wpfuulxxalayx.jpg)

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--YhY7oxr2--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/a3hklwe6kqm2cfzrdyzd.jpg)
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 20 November 2014, 08:00
I'm in!! I even like the fact they've called it the "Sportwagen"!  8)
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: JBirchy on 20 November 2014, 09:58
Yeah I like that. Hope we get the LED rear lights, one of my favourite bits on the hatch. Stick some Pretorias on that and we're on to a winner.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 20 November 2014, 13:34
Yup, I'm definitely convinced. I need one.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 20 November 2014, 18:02
Yeah I like that. Hope we get the LED rear lights, one of my favourite bits on the hatch. Stick some Pretorias on that and we're on to a winner.


Agreed, ignore the twin tailpipes but you get the picture... 8)


http://youtu.be/HznOnCj0Ruo
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: corgi on 20 November 2014, 18:49
With the new Focus STD in the wings it cant be long before the GTD estate shows its face?

And you think that even Ford will call the diesel ST the STD?  :shocked:

The Golf R Estate looks fine and I can see them selling well unlike the Passat R36 which is as rare as rocking horse poo...
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 23 November 2014, 16:44
Some are so besotted by the Golf moniker that even if a Golf variant looked like a pig they would salivate excessively and celebrate it as beautiful. The Golf R Estate is a pig and a really ugly and disproportionate one at that. Even an ugly pig would be too embarrassed to call it one of its own.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 18:01
Some are so besotted by the Golf moniker that even if a Golf variant looked like a pig they would salivate excessively and celebrate it as beautiful. The Golf R Estate is a pig and a really ugly and disproportionate one at that. Even an ugly pig would be too embarrassed to call it one of its own.

WOW! You'll even copy and paste the insults from the R forum just to get a rise out of interested people??

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 23 November 2014, 18:05
Some are so besotted by the Golf moniker that even if a Golf variant looked like a pig they would salivate excessively and celebrate it as beautiful. The Golf R Estate is a pig and a really ugly and disproportionate one at that. Even an ugly pig would be too embarrassed to call it one of its own.
WOW! You'll even copy and paste the insults just to get a rise out of interested people??
:rolleyes:

Ha, Ha. Not a full copy and paste. But still my own words.  :laugh:  :kiss:
But I do think it looks most odd.
ETTO.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Booth11 on 23 November 2014, 18:11
He's not alone in his thoughts though, Jimble.  If we're copying and pasting insults... :grin:

... the R estate is an abomination to a purist like me  :grin:

Well said  :smiley:

Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 23 November 2014, 18:14
Hearses don't sell well anymore. It is the age of the SUV instead.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 18:21
Some can't afford 60-70k for a new RS4 but also don't want to jump on the family bus wagon, unless you're willing to buy a used (and abused) RS4 then an R estate is an ideal solution for a gap in the market, it may not be the prettiest but who buys an estate because it's the best looking??
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 18:27
He's not alone in his thoughts though, Jimble.  If we're copying and pasting insults... :grin:

... the R estate is an abomination to a purist like me  :grin:

Well said  :smiley:

I disagree with this too tbh, it's nothing new putting an R on big family cars, R36 and R50 although they didn't sell in big numbers they still exist, i can't see the estate affecting the hatch sales considering the feedback?? It's just VW capitalising on a great package.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Booth11 on 23 November 2014, 18:49
I know it's nothing new but imo the lines of distinction between models are becoming increasingly blurred.  Both the R and the GTI should stand alone as the performance VW hatches rather than just becoming one of a number of variants, which is the way it's going.  Ultimately it dilutes the 'brand'.

I hope to god they never produce a GTI estate  :sad:
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: wigit on 23 November 2014, 18:53
I reckon you could get a S4 black edition avant for not much more money when you factor in broker deals

If I wanted a fast estate S4 or a xdrive 3 series, or buy a year old RS4

The Golf estate is no looker
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 23 November 2014, 19:14
I reckon you could get a S4 black edition avant for not much more money when you factor in broker deals
If I wanted a fast estate S4 or a xdrive 3 series, or buy a year old RS4
The Golf estate is no looker

I totally agree. Would be more sensible to get hearses from BMW 3 Series, Audi A4s or Merc C Class. They are fast, very roomy, don't look hideously deformed like the Golf Estate and great discounts can be had. BMWs can be bought with 25% discounts. A new, well specced BMW 330d hearse could be yours £35k or even less. But for some only a Golf hearse would do.

ETTO
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 19:40
I reckon you could get a S4 black edition avant for not much more money when you factor in broker deals

If I wanted a fast estate S4 or a xdrive 3 series, or buy a year old RS4

The Golf estate is no looker


Really?? An S4 starts at nearly 40k without options, you reckon you could get 25% off ask? Even so you would be able to get a STUPID deal on an R estate the same as the hatch.


Looks are subjective so it's difficult to argue about peoples opinion in that regard, i would rather drive a hatch but the practicalty of an estate could tip the apple cart.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Booth11 on 23 November 2014, 20:11
Looks are subjective but the R estate doesn't look like one thing or the other, just a horribly stretched affair.  The lines are wrong. As has been suggested, there are better estates, with comparable performance, out there.

Are you still thinking of ditching your R Jimble?  I can understand the attraction of an R estate to you but why such haste.  Why not hang onto your car and see how you get on when baby arrives.  People always seem to want to rush out and get a much bigger car the minute a baby is on the horizon and honestly it's not always necessary in the early stages of family life.  If after 6 months you are struggling and feel you need something bigger, fair enough.  Your choice of course.

Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 20:34
I've decided to wait and see how we go, i'm under no illusion that assuming we make the right choice in pushchair/stroller then in day to day use the the R will be fine, however when it comes to weeks and weekends away at my brothers or down south then the hatch just won't cut it, in which case i'll either be buying a roof box and bars which will need storing or look for something more suitable, i don't really want a huge estate or SUV (although i do have a soft spot for the Touareg) so the Golf estate would fit the bill, i'm also a fan of the Skoda Octavia but badge snobbery still keeps me from buying one! The badge also keeps me from buying Merc, BMW or Audi though as i think they carry their own snobbery.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 23 November 2014, 20:56
I've decided to wait and see how we go, i'm under no illusion that assuming we make the right choice in pushchair/stroller then in day to day use the the R will be fine, however when it comes to weeks and weekends away at my brothers or down south then the hatch just won't cut it, in which case i'll either be buying a roof box and bars which will need storing or look for something more suitable, i don't really want a huge estate or SUV (although i do have a soft spot for the Touareg) so the Golf estate would fit the bill, i'm also a fan of the Skoda Octavia but badge snobbery still keeps me from buying one! The badge also keeps me from buying Merc, BMW or Audi though as i think they carry their own snobbery.

So you are too snobbish to buy a Skoda, but Merc/BMW/Audi are too snobbish for you. Man you have a problem.

When in doubt get a Porsche. That's what I will be doing when I replace my BMW.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: wigit on 23 November 2014, 21:14
I reckon you could get a S4 black edition avant for not much more money when you factor in broker deals

If I wanted a fast estate S4 or a xdrive 3 series, or buy a year old RS4

The Golf estate is no looker


Really?? An S4 starts at nearly 40k without options, you reckon you could get 25% off ask? Even so you would be able to get a STUPID deal on an R estate the same as the hatch.


Looks are subjective so it's difficult to argue about peoples opinion in that regard, i would rather drive a hatch but the practicalty of an estate could tip the apple cart.

i was seeing £7K discounts on S4 black addition avants when i looked, remap and pully change boo,

my profession is design based and we all know designers are right and everyone else is wrong

i think the Octavia looks better proportioned

The issue on the golf estate is the rear window looks too small for me and the rake on the hatch does not seem right to me
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 21:20


So you are too snobbish to buy a Skoda, but Merc/BMW/Audi are too snobbish for you. Man you have a problem.

When in doubt get a Porsche. That's what I will be doing when I replace my BMW.
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Merc and BMW yes, the saloons/estate/Avants scream middle management imo, Audi to a lesser extent but it's still there, the hatches aren't quite as bad but thats not what we're talking about here.

VW are a classless brand, that's why they're so succesful, Skoda however although their product is much improved there is still a stigma around the brand imo, they're slightly cheaper than the equivalent VW but when you sit in one it becomes aparent why.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 21:30
I reckon you could get a S4 black edition avant for not much more money when you factor in broker deals

If I wanted a fast estate S4 or a xdrive 3 series, or buy a year old RS4

The Golf estate is no looker


Really?? An S4 starts at nearly 40k without options, you reckon you could get 25% off ask? Even so you would be able to get a STUPID deal on an R estate the same as the hatch.


Looks are subjective so it's difficult to argue about peoples opinion in that regard, i would rather drive a hatch but the practicalty of an estate could tip the apple cart.

i was seeing £7K discounts on S4 black addition avants when i looked, remap and pully change boo,

my profession is design based and we all know designers are right and everyone else is wrong

i think the Octavia looks better proportioned

The issue on the golf estate is the rear window looks too small for me and the rake on the hatch does not seem right to me


 ;D


Don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to be a VW fanboi here but they are filling a gap in the market imo, if you compare market prices without discount then then the S4 is in a different class, even if you are not a fan of the Golf estate or "Sportwagen" you can't argue that there is nothing else available at that price point with that amount of performance.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: GrahamFR on 23 November 2014, 21:39
Tell you what's not filling a gap in the market... http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Audi-TT-Sportback-at-Paris-motor-show-2014/
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 21:44
Tell you what's not filling a gap in the market... http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Audi-TT-Sportback-at-Paris-motor-show-2014/ (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Audi-TT-Sportback-at-Paris-motor-show-2014/)


Indeed! ;D
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: wigit on 23 November 2014, 21:48
i think it needs the 90% drug dealer tints to help the sides and rear

when I see an image of it i see it with step ladders tied to the roof and ACME Alarms & Security plastered on the side driven by a guy with a short sleeved shirt in school blue and a clip on tie who has inadvertently managed to get on the ring
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 23 November 2014, 21:56
Merc and BMW yes, the saloons/estate/Avants scream middle management imo, Audi to a lesser extent but it's still there, the hatches aren't quite as bad but thats not what we're talking about here.
VW are a classless brand, that's why they're so succesful, Skoda however although their product is much improved there is still a stigma around the brand imo, they're slightly cheaper than the equivalent VW but when you sit in one it becomes aparent why.

That's your perception and that's ok.

VWs (a semi-premium brand) are driven by those in the lower pecking order and who cannot afford BMWs, Audis, Mercedes. Audis are driven by cocks. It is also accepted that most VWs are bland. Perhaps that is their charm. But does it all really matter? One cuts one's cloth accordingly.

One man's meat is another man's poison. The Golf R Hearse is my poison.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 21:58
i think it needs the 90% drug dealer tints to help the sides and rear

when I see an image of it i see it with step ladders tied to the roof and ACME Alarms & Security plastered on the side driven by a guy with a short sleeved shirt in school blue and a clip on tie who has inadvertently managed to get on the ring

So you know me then?? :grin:
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 22:03
Merc and BMW yes, the saloons/estate/Avants scream middle management imo, Audi to a lesser extent but it's still there, the hatches aren't quite as bad but thats not what we're talking about here.
VW are a classless brand, that's why they're so succesful, Skoda however although their product is much improved there is still a stigma around the brand imo, they're slightly cheaper than the equivalent VW but when you sit in one it becomes aparent why.

That's your perception and that's ok.

VWs (a semi-premium brand) are driven by those in the lower pecking order and who cannot afford BMWs, Audis, Mercedes. Audis are driven by cocks. It is also accepted that most VWs are bland. Perhaps that is their charm. But does it all really matter? One cuts one's cloth accordingly.

One man's meat is another man's poison. The Golf R Hearse is my poison.


Really?? And why are you here again??
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: wigit on 23 November 2014, 22:05
i think it needs the 90% drug dealer tints to help the sides and rear

when I see an image of it i see it with step ladders tied to the roof and ACME Alarms & Security plastered on the side driven by a guy with a short sleeved shirt in school blue and a clip on tie who has inadvertently managed to get on the ring

So you know me then?? :grin:

i had you down as being more discreet so fold up ladder in the the boot :)
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 23 November 2014, 22:11
Merc and BMW yes, the saloons/estate/Avants scream middle management imo, Audi to a lesser extent but it's still there, the hatches aren't quite as bad but thats not what we're talking about here.
VW are a classless brand, that's why they're so succesful, Skoda however although their product is much improved there is still a stigma around the brand imo, they're slightly cheaper than the equivalent VW but when you sit in one it becomes aparent why.

That's your perception and that's ok.

VWs (a semi-premium brand) are driven by those in the lower pecking order and who cannot afford BMWs, Audis, Mercedes. Audis are driven by cocks. It is also accepted that most VWs are bland. Perhaps that is their charm. But does it all really matter? One cuts one's cloth accordingly.

One man's meat is another man's poison. The Golf R Hearse is my poison.


Really?? And why are you here again??

There is no need for you to be so confrontational, personal and nasty. We are talking about cars and you are becoming personal. I don't give a toss what people think about brands. I buy the car that suits me and I like. Hope you do the same.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 22:12
i think it needs the 90% drug dealer tints to help the sides and rear

when I see an image of it i see it with step ladders tied to the roof and ACME Alarms & Security plastered on the side driven by a guy with a short sleeved shirt in school blue and a clip on tie who has inadvertently managed to get on the ring

So you know me then?? ;D

i had you down as being more discreet so fold up ladder in the the boot :)


 :D
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 22:17
Merc and BMW yes, the saloons/estate/Avants scream middle management imo, Audi to a lesser extent but it's still there, the hatches aren't quite as bad but thats not what we're talking about here.
VW are a classless brand, that's why they're so succesful, Skoda however although their product is much improved there is still a stigma around the brand imo, they're slightly cheaper than the equivalent VW but when you sit in one it becomes aparent why.

That's your perception and that's ok.

VWs (a semi-premium brand) are driven by those in the lower pecking order and who cannot afford BMWs, Audis, Mercedes. Audis are driven by cocks. It is also accepted that most VWs are bland. Perhaps that is their charm. But does it all really matter? One cuts one's cloth accordingly.

One man's meat is another man's poison. The Golf R Hearse is my poison.


Really?? And why are you here again??

There is no need for you to be so confrontational, personal and nasty. We are talking about cars and you are becoming personal. I don't give a toss what people think about brands. I buy the car that suits me and I like. Hope you do the same.


So you don't think the highlighted comment could be taken as offensive?
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 23 November 2014, 22:22
Merc and BMW yes, the saloons/estate/Avants scream middle management imo, Audi to a lesser extent but it's still there, the hatches aren't quite as bad but thats not what we're talking about here.
VW are a classless brand, that's why they're so succesful, Skoda however although their product is much improved there is still a stigma around the brand imo, they're slightly cheaper than the equivalent VW but when you sit in one it becomes aparent why.

That's your perception and that's ok.

VWs (a semi-premium brand) are driven by those in the lower pecking order and who cannot afford BMWs, Audis, Mercedes. Audis are driven by cocks. It is also accepted that most VWs are bland. Perhaps that is their charm. But does it all really matter? One cuts one's cloth accordingly.

One man's meat is another man's poison. The Golf R Hearse is my poison.


Really?? And why are you here again??

There is no need for you to be so confrontational, personal and nasty. We are talking about cars and you are becoming personal. I don't give a toss what people think about brands. I buy the car that suits me and I like. Hope you do the same.
So you don't think the highlighted comment could be taken as offensive?

That's the general consensus not what I think. Maybe we are at cross purposes. I would rather buy a Golf than an A3 or a BMW 1 Series or a Mercedes A Class. So if people think I am part of the lower pecking order, then so be it. I basically don't give a damn if they judge me by the car I drive.

Good night, sleep tight etc!
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Jimble on 23 November 2014, 22:29
Merc and BMW yes, the saloons/estate/Avants scream middle management imo, Audi to a lesser extent but it's still there, the hatches aren't quite as bad but thats not what we're talking about here.
VW are a classless brand, that's why they're so succesful, Skoda however although their product is much improved there is still a stigma around the brand imo, they're slightly cheaper than the equivalent VW but when you sit in one it becomes aparent why.

That's your perception and that's ok.

VWs (a semi-premium brand) are driven by those in the lower pecking order and who cannot afford BMWs, Audis, Mercedes. Audis are driven by cocks. It is also accepted that most VWs are bland. Perhaps that is their charm. But does it all really matter? One cuts one's cloth accordingly.

One man's meat is another man's poison. The Golf R Hearse is my poison.


Really?? And why are you here again??

There is no need for you to be so confrontational, personal and nasty. We are talking about cars and you are becoming personal. I don't give a toss what people think about brands. I buy the car that suits me and I like. Hope you do the same.
So you don't think the highlighted comment could be taken as offensive?

That's the general consensus not what I think. Maybe we are at cross purposes. I would rather buy a Golf than an A3


Fair enough.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Booth11 on 23 November 2014, 22:43
i think it needs the 90% drug dealer tints to help the sides and rear

when I see an image of it i see it with step ladders tied to the roof and ACME Alarms & Security plastered on the side driven by a guy with a short sleeved shirt in school blue and a clip on tie who has inadvertently managed to get on the ring

 :grin:  That sums it up totally.  I'm expecting the house alarm guy to turn up in one on his next visit.

As for car pecking order, who cares what other people think you can or cannot afford.  Drive what you want, not what you think other people think you should drive.  The day I give a toss what others think about my car (or anything else for that matter) is the day I give up.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: charlie on 24 November 2014, 08:12
I like the r estate. The r hatch back is and will always be better looking as will most hatch backs over estates. When I recently changed my car for an estate the salesman showed me a golf estate and to be honest it wasn't big enough for my needs. It's horses for courses ford have done it with the st and Volkswagen are getting on the bandwagon and doing the same. The choice is yours and anyone that looks at what you have or driving well ain't worth bothering with  :smiley: Charlie
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: dubber36 on 24 November 2014, 10:45
I like the look of the Golf Estate, especially in .:R trim. But then I do like an estate car, hence choosing to drive a diesel Passat day to day. Having had a good poke around a mates new Skoda Superb yesterday, as a family car, I don't think you can go far wrong with one of them. It's funny how times have changed tho'. 25 years ago, a Mk2 Golf was considered to be a perfectly acceptable family car.

These opinions about buyers settling for VW's because they can't afford to buy BMW's, Mercedes etc are utter tosh. My job takes me to the homes of the landed gentry and whilst some whose wealth is probably that of every forum member here put together many times over, they choose to drive around in VW's and Subaru's. All bought new, maintained fastidiously and kept until they fall apart. They have no interest in cars. They just want something that they can ride around in that isn't going to need replacing anytime soon as buying cars is just a bore they can do without.

A belated welcome back anyway Asker. It's like you never left.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 24 November 2014, 12:12
Thanks dubber36.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Booth11 on 24 November 2014, 19:39

These opinions about buyers settling for VW's because they can't afford to buy BMW's, Mercedes etc are utter tosh. My job takes me to the homes of the landed gentry and whilst some whose wealth is probably that of every forum member here put together many times over, they choose to drive around in VW's and Subaru's. All bought new, maintained fastidiously and kept until they fall apart. They have no interest in cars. They just want something that they can ride around in that isn't going to need replacing anytime soon as buying cars is just a bore they can do without.

I think this is true.  It's the 'new money' brigade that tend to buy into this car brand hierarchy bolloxs.  You can spot them a mile off.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: wigit on 24 November 2014, 20:11
it is the aspirational world we live in where no longer is a clio good enough and you have to have a captur in order to keep up with the jones on the school run where it is all about the lifestyle

we go through these lifestyle phases of people carriers soft roaders and all that and for me the good old estate does the job better than any of them but in order for them to be perceived cool they give them the tags of shooting brake etc

agree with you booth which is why i love driving the Polo, i had a bogo standard Up! today and what a hoot to drive but not for the cool kids

Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: dubber36 on 25 November 2014, 08:12
What amuses me is when people post pictures of their fancy pants financed car, parked outside the sort of house that wouldn't look out of place on a Channel 4 documentary. And I don't mean Grand Designs.

Wigit, I'm with you on the up!. I had one for a couple of days, it was brilliant. The best fun I've had driving a car in years, especially when I found a gate into the forestry open.  :evil:
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 25 November 2014, 10:58
dubber36 & wigit:
Another Up! fan. Just love it to bits. So space efficient and such a hoot driving in town whizzing in and out of traffic. Also, pretty excellent on the motorway. A really classy and classless runabout.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: andrewparker on 25 November 2014, 13:34
See Mercedes are getting in on the act too - http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=31238

(http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/31238/Mercedes_CLA45AMGSB_03.jpg)
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 25 November 2014, 13:52
See Mercedes are getting in on the act too - http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=31238
(http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/31238/Mercedes_CLA45AMGSB_03.jpg)

2014 Droopy Arse Award winner.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: MAW73 on 25 November 2014, 14:22
See Mercedes are getting in on the act too - http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=31238
(http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/31238/Mercedes_CLA45AMGSB_03.jpg)

2014 Droopy Arse Award winner.

Speaking of droopy bottoms..... good to see you on here old chap
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Waspy on 25 November 2014, 14:25
Sat here chuckling to myself about badge snobs and the aspirational world. I am currently sat in a room full of aspiring accountants. All of us are on a very similar salary, but working around the room, there are two BMW 1 series, an A3 sportline, an A5 (all brand new) and... My  mk2. Yes non in that list are super fancy, but they were all bough for the BMW or Audi badge.

I almost feel sorry for people who buy their cars based on badge alone. I guess if they gain no pleasure from actually driving, and have the money to throw at a badge, then fair enough. But they all question my choice of car, and when they do I can just smile in the knowledge that I have fun driving my car almost every time, while a Deisel A3 bores me to tears.

Everyone is an individual though.

Back OT, that Merc's rear end is horrific.
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: am1w on 25 November 2014, 14:32
See Mercedes are getting in on the act too - http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=31238
(http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/31238/Mercedes_CLA45AMGSB_03.jpg)
2014 Droopy Arse Award winner.
Speaking of droopy bottoms..... good to see you on here old chap

Good to also see you again dearest old bean. :kiss:

I was wondering when you'd upgrade to the M135i? It is a great car, love its looks and it comes with a very excitable bottom! Why not EBII again?

We are changing, this December, our second 330d from EBII to Mineral Grey. It has been hit 4 times whilst parked. Jinxed. Mine remains EBII.

That Mercedes is horrific. Nearly all Mercs seem to have droopy arses. I wonder why?
Title: Re: Mk7 R Estate
Post by: Booth11 on 25 November 2014, 15:47
 :sick:  merc is vile

Sat here chuckling to myself about badge snobs and the aspirational world. I am currently sat in a room full of aspiring accountants. All of us are on a very similar salary, but working around the room, there are two BMW 1 series, an A3 sportline, an A5 (all brand new) and... My  mk2. Yes non in that list are super fancy, but they were all bough for the BMW or Audi badge.

I almost feel sorry for people who buy their cars based on badge alone. I guess if they gain no pleasure from actually driving, and have the money to throw at a badge, then fair enough. But they all question my choice of car, and when they do I can just smile in the knowledge that I have fun driving my car almost every time, while a Deisel A3 bores me to tears.

Everyone is an individual though.

Back OT, that Merc's rear end is horrific.

I bet most of them don't give a second thought to driving pleasure.  Mind you it's not confined to those brands.  A while back I met a guy in a brand new mk7 R, who claimed he'd moved from a mk6 GTI, to a mk7 GTI, followed by a mk7 GTI PP, and then the R.:rolleyes:  Throughout our conversation he wasn't  able to give any informed or coherent opinion about the car other than saying "yeah it's great, just the same as the mk6 GTI"