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Title: Ordered an R
Post by: Chriscav on 08 October 2014, 14:05
Hi again everyone.
Last year I had a GTI on order but due to a change in circumstance I had to cancel.
Now due to another change I am once again able to join the fold with an R on order, although the wait is huge currently.
I have a question though which I can't find the answer to anywhere. Do the DCC dampers need any special care as iid like to add this option and have driven a car with it this morning. I've heard some horror stories about them needing special maintenance and wear and tear on them is awful. Is this true?
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 October 2014, 16:06
People may be telling you about the old generation DCC. The new one is fine and I havent heard anyone say they need any more special attention. They will cost more come replacement time.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: falconmick on 08 October 2014, 21:41
I've had my MK7 R for about 6 months, it handles fine without DCC. For more advice try Golf R forum.co.uk
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 October 2014, 22:11
I've had my MK7 R for about 6 months, it handles fine without DCC. For more advice try Golf R forum.co.uk

Everyone there (R forum) advises to have it. Same with every forum - those that specced it will say its essential and those that didn't will say the ride is is just fine without. Not sure about 19" without, but on standard 18"ers on my GTD, I find the ride as nice as it gets on firm, sporty suspension (MK5 ride was terrible on even 17" rubber).

Had the old version on 2 Sciroccos as standard equipment. Difference was apparent, but didn't feel strongly enough to spec myself. I had mine in Sport all the time except when set to comfort for roads with a danger of potholes (to lessen the impact). I found comfort wallowy and normal fidgety in everyday use, and had the system pack up twice in sub-zero temperatures. If I was carting around my Nana all the time she'd appreciate comfort.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: mk7gti on 09 October 2014, 14:27
I was chatting to a friend at the weekend who works in a main VW dealer selling finance. He was saying everyone is buying R's at the minute due to the finance deals. He did say he cant recall the last time he had a customer speak to him about a GTI  :smiley:
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: blueheaduk on 09 October 2014, 15:18
I thought about an R - but these masses of sales they're having kind of ruins it for me. Won't feel as special driving one knowing that so many other people have them!

Will save my pennies and get a 2015 Mustang  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: CraigW on 09 October 2014, 15:26
I thought about an R - but these masses of sales they're having kind of ruins it for me. Won't feel as special driving one knowing that so many other people have them!

Will save my pennies and get a 2015 Mustang  :cool: :cool:

Great looking car but the 5.0ltr would be a killer on fuel costs and the 2.0ltr eco boost just isn't right in a mustang
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: Exonian on 09 October 2014, 15:33
Wonder if VW will do a promotion on the GTI to boost sales as everyone and their dog is now leasing an R, from downsizing middle management types to youngsters who have just realised how cheap 300bhp is right now!

Anyway, did someone mention a 5.0 Mustang? I wasn't aware we had luxuries like that in the UK so I'm off to investigate!!!  :cool:
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 October 2014, 17:02
I thought about an R - but these masses of sales they're having kind of ruins it for me. Won't feel as special driving one knowing that so many other people have them!

Will save my pennies and get a 2015 Mustang  :cool: :cool:

I doubt there are masses of sales, but in these forums we're probably in contact with 1 in 5 R owners/prospective owners vs 1 in 20 or less GTI/GTD owners. Maybe not those figures, but proportionally so. So many people walking the streets wouldn't even knw what an R is, but would know a GTI.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: blueheaduk on 09 October 2014, 17:21
I thought about an R - but these masses of sales they're having kind of ruins it for me. Won't feel as special driving one knowing that so many other people have them!

Will save my pennies and get a 2015 Mustang  :cool: :cool:

I doubt there are masses of sales, but in these forums we're probably in contact with 1 in 5 R owners/prospective owners vs 1 in 20 or less GTI/GTD owners. Maybe not those figures, but proportionally so. So many people walking the streets wouldn't even knw what an R is, but would know a GTI.


Not for long!
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: ajmoir36 on 09 October 2014, 17:34
Not sure that 30k is cheap for a car really!!! :shocked:
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 October 2014, 17:42
Not sure that 30k is cheap for a car really!!! :shocked:

Most people out there will see the RRP and think they can't afford it without even looking into monthly costs, and not realise that the exceptional residuals keep it relatively cheap to run for what it is. Even at £30k, I think it's a good buy - there are plenty of mediocre cars out there for 2/3 of that, which will depreciate like a stone.

The GTD has mass popularity as a company car as well as a privately driven car, the GTI less so as a company car, and the R less again (emissions/tax exposure). So many people out there unwilling to be paying out £300-400 a month out of their own take-home pay for a privately owned/leased car.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: matchboy on 10 October 2014, 09:38
I thought about an R - but these masses of sales they're having kind of ruins it for me. Won't feel as special driving one knowing that so many other people have them!


I've seen maybe 5 R's since they were released, and probably 10 GTI's.  Don't be fooled into thinking that this forum represents the demographic of car buyers out there - there's still plenty of sh!tters on the road to look special against  :laugh:
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: Mark V GTD on 10 October 2014, 10:01
Five, wow - I live near London and have only ever seen one R - and that was in Suffolk!
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: Berelli on 10 October 2014, 10:12
Last weekend I went to the Goodwood breakfast club "Hot Hatch Sunday" and there were five "R" models, four in lapis blue and one in black. My GTI MK7 was the only one there.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: Moro on 10 October 2014, 13:32
Last weekend I went to the Goodwood breakfast club "Hot Hatch Sunday" and there were five "R" models, four in lapis blue and one in black. My GTI MK7 was the only one there.

I didn't display my car, but there seemed to be more R's than GTI's in the car park, and on site there were loads of R's.

I would have preferred to see older Golfs like G60's (and much less modern stuff too) but there was a nice Scirocco Storm and Fiat Strada Abarth there...
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: 09GTI on 10 October 2014, 21:51
VW Ireland are knocking circa 10000 euro of the price of an R !!
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: peterdoherty on 10 October 2014, 21:58
VW Ireland are knocking circa 10000 euro of the price of an R !!

yea but it was prob €50k to begin with and no options lol
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: Snoopy on 11 October 2014, 23:04
I thought about an R - but these masses of sales they're having kind of ruins it for me. Won't feel as special driving one knowing that so many other people have them!


I've seen maybe 5 R's since they were released, and probably 10 GTI's.  Don't be fooled into thinking that this forum represents the demographic of car buyers out there - there's still plenty of sh!tters on the road to look special against  :laugh:
You should come to Newcastle the place is overrun with Rs
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: TheMoggy on 12 October 2014, 00:10
I thought about an R - but these masses of sales they're having kind of ruins it for me. Won't feel as special driving one knowing that so many other people have them!


I've seen maybe 5 R's since they were released, and probably 10 GTI's.  Don't be fooled into thinking that this forum represents the demographic of car buyers out there - there's still plenty of sh!tters on the road to look special against  :laugh:
You should come to Newcastle the place is overrun with Rs

Apart from my own I've only seen one in Newcastle next to NUFC Academy in Benton! I would suggest 'overrun' is a bit of an exaggeration :)
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 12 October 2014, 01:08
I haven't seen a single R in Newcastle or North Tyneside, but 4 GTDs and 3 GTIs are living in the vicinity.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: Snoopy on 12 October 2014, 10:31
You two need to get out more lol. :wink:  :tongue: Between 7_8am in a morning as im going through newcastle I see a minimum of 3 (2 blue (3dr+5dr) and one white sometimes also a black 5dr and another 3dr blue if im running late ) and on my way home between 4-5pm from work around 5 of them. (2 blue, couple black and a white one). Before you ask there not the same cars except the white one.. There is also some in the company carpark to the left and right of were I work. 2 in the one on the right and 1 to the left (this ones dark blue I quite like this one). My commute is from walsend area to askew road through the centre of town. If I leave early on Friday around 3 sometimes or stay back late till around 6 I see different Rs in the centre of newcastle. Theres probably more ive just stopped noticing.
Im expecting with the cheap finance deals too see alot more. I have seen a couple springup of late mainly as the blue stands out but dont see them regular like the ones above.
Seen loads of GTDs so stopped looking. GTIs though ive seen very few.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 12 October 2014, 13:13
Had a look in Silverlink today, just to look at the whole palette of Golf colours and reassure myself that Lapiz blue was the way to go and that I wasn't bothered about the 19" Pretorias.

Only one R was there, it was white, with Pretorias. I took a good look at them and they really do look dainty - one pothole and I think you may be looking at more than potential tyre damage. What I did notice though, was that the hubs of the brake discs look to be really well painted, not a spot of rust on a 14 plater they have there. I wondered, are those discs (presumed same as the ones on the GTI PP) universally better painted? Anyone with an R or a PP have any rust on their hubs? Maybe VW are painting them all better on the later cars.

Anyway, I looked and looked at a car that was listed up as Reflex Silver on the spec sheet, but didn't look white enough. I saw a Limestone Grey, which was significantly darker (and looking very pure titanium in colour), and finally at the back of the lot I saw a Silver that was very white and bright - it was the Reflex. The other had to be Tungsten Silver, it was more of an Opal Silver (i've not confused it with Oryx). Then I saw a black GTD (i'd almost forgotten how my dad's looked, not seen it in 9 months, and it was filthy when I did) - looks very menacing.

If I could be arsed with cleaning it every other day and cobwebs etc sticking out like a sore thumb, i'd be going for the black, but after seeing a Rising Blue Scirocco I just about convinced myself i'm sticking with Lapiz Blue.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: Chriscav on 12 October 2014, 14:57
Had a look in Silverlink today, just to look at the whole palette of Golf colours and reassure myself that Lapiz blue was the way to go and that I wasn't bothered about the 19" Pretorias.

Only one R was there, it was white, with Pretorias. I took a good look at them and they really do look dainty - one pothole and I think you may be looking at more than potential tyre damage. What I did notice though, was that the hubs of the brake discs look to be really well painted, not a spot of rust on a 14 plater they have there. I wondered, are those discs (presumed same as the ones on the GTI PP) universally better painted? Anyone with an R or a PP have any rust on their hubs? Maybe VW are painting them all better on the later cars.

Anyway, I looked and looked at a car that was listed up as Reflex Silver on the spec sheet, but didn't look white enough. I saw a Limestone Grey, which was significantly darker (and looking very pure titanium in colour), and finally at the back of the lot I saw a Silver that was very white and bright - it was the Reflex. The other had to be Tungsten Silver, it was more of an Opal Silver (i've not confused it with Oryx). Then I saw a black GTD (i'd almost forgotten how my dad's looked, not seen it in 9 months, and it was filthy when I did) - looks very menacing.

If I could be arsed with cleaning it every other day and cobwebs etc sticking out like a sore thumb, i'd be going for the black, but after seeing a Rising Blue Scirocco I just about convinced myself i'm sticking with Lapiz Blue.

If we could get 19 inch Cadiz wheels I'd go for them. I feel in 18 inch guise the car looks underwheeled IMO.
Strange that the scirocco is available with these.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: p3asa on 12 October 2014, 18:26
What I did notice though, was that the hubs of the brake discs look to be really well painted, not a spot of rust on a 14 plater they have there. I wondered, are those discs (presumed same as the ones on the GTI PP) universally better painted? Anyone with an R or a PP have any rust on their hubs? Maybe VW are painting them all better on the later cars.


I wonder if it is the later cars they are doing better? My GTD has silver / grey on the hubs and not a hint of rust. Massive difference compared to the Mk6 that were actually rusting on pick up day.

Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: Jimble on 12 October 2014, 18:28
Had a look in Silverlink today, just to look at the whole palette of Golf colours and reassure myself that Lapiz blue was the way to go and that I wasn't bothered about the 19" Pretorias.

Only one R was there, it was white, with Pretorias. I took a good look at them and they really do look dainty - one pothole and I think you may be looking at more than potential tyre damage. What I did notice though, was that the hubs of the brake discs look to be really well painted, not a spot of rust on a 14 plater they have there. I wondered, are those discs (presumed same as the ones on the GTI PP) universally better painted? Anyone with an R or a PP have any rust on their hubs? Maybe VW are painting them all better on the later cars.

Anyway, I looked and looked at a car that was listed up as Reflex Silver on the spec sheet, but didn't look white enough. I saw a Limestone Grey, which was significantly darker (and looking very pure titanium in colour), and finally at the back of the lot I saw a Silver that was very white and bright - it was the Reflex. The other had to be Tungsten Silver, it was more of an Opal Silver (i've not confused it with Oryx). Then I saw a black GTD (i'd almost forgotten how my dad's looked, not seen it in 9 months, and it was filthy when I did) - looks very menacing.

If I could be arsed with cleaning it every other day and cobwebs etc sticking out like a sore thumb, i'd be going for the black, but after seeing a Rising Blue Scirocco I just about convinced myself i'm sticking with Lapiz Blue.


My hubs have a few little spots of rust starting so i don't think there is any difference, just the luck of the draw methinks. :'(
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: Snoopy on 13 October 2014, 15:27
My mk6 ones still haven't rusted after 4.5 years.....
Maybe its weather related be interesting to see what the mk7 ones are like after a harsh winter.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: ajmoir36 on 13 October 2014, 16:02
Mine haven't rusted but I keep my car in the garage every night. So I figured that's enough to keep them rust free.
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: matchboy on 13 October 2014, 16:10
My mk6 ones still haven't rusted after 4.5 years.....
Maybe its weather related be interesting to see what the mk7 ones are like after a harsh winter.

Apparantly we are in for the coldest/harshest winter in 100 years.  So this year will be a good test!
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: Trooper007 on 13 October 2014, 16:57
VW Ireland are knocking circa 10000 euro of the price of an R !!

I see there is a offer starting now free camera and stuff but price still starting at €51995.But nothing about 10 Grand off!
Do you know if they are going to take the price down?
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: MAW73 on 14 October 2014, 10:22
Talking of rusty hubs..... this thread will cheer you up  :laugh:

http://babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=66828
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: charlie on 14 October 2014, 11:50
Talking of rusty hubs..... this thread will cheer you up  :laugh:

http://babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=66828
that has cheered me up a bit of topic but strangely link inked to this. I used to drive car transporters for a living and every 6 weeks they go in for service and inspections. Well I dropped it of one night next morning picked it up and on inspection they had greased yes greased the anti snake brake in the middle of the truck between the trailer and unit. I asked why the reply was because it was making a noise. Unbelievable  :laugh:
Title: Re: Ordered an R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 October 2014, 12:49
Talking of rusty hubs..... this thread will cheer you up  :laugh:

http://babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=66828

And they don't like Bridgestones either.  :grin: