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General => General discussion => Topic started by: VR6_ROB on 11 September 2005, 21:56
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right folks was out driving today engine thought it would blow up again
I aint gonna fix it
getting a vr6 on tuesday 2.8 chipped
600quid all running gear brakes etc for the conversion
how much of a chew on is it to fit as me and a few friends
are gonna attempt fitting it
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as long as you have the loom you'll be fine dude!go for it!ive just done a 2ltr conversion with my mate on mine.gonna try and start it tomoz then we will see if what everybody said was impossible is possible!didgifant to k jet?????tommorrow will tell!
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yeah I get the loom with it
think they just plug straight in
does any1 no where i can find a write up on a conversion
step by step stuff so i no what im in for
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engine will drop in alrite i guess
The wiring loom might be a pain though. ive heard that you need a cutsom exhaust and stuff built up but im no expert :rolleyes:
you have to think about stopping power too. crap 8v breaks wont be good enough
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i think you need a few extras, not just engine and loom. it makes it easier if you have a late spec fuse box (with hazards on steering column) in terms of wiring. you need a vibratechnics engine mount, they do a specific one for the conversion. like blue said i think the exhaust needs a proper manifold to do it properly. a corrado radiator fits better and then you'll have to decide what drive shafts you use, if you'll stick to 4 or change to 5 stud hubs etc. and you may need different springs up front just to cope with the extra weight a vr6 has.
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startin to sound complicated now this
dont think ill bother save my money but i am sick of it breakin
they must be something wrong for the gasket to go in short amount of time
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there are a few 2.0 8v lumps on eGay that would drop straight in Roberto :wink:
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when i said the loom i ment everything that goes with it front to back the lot make life hell of alot easier.started my two litre lump tonigh and shes running!come on! bird to the [peeps that said it cant be done!what the hell do they know!?
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progress
I bought the engine
2.8 vr6 600quid
comes with loom gearbox brakes eveyrthing i need basically
takin my enigne out tomorrow night and putting it in over weekend
cant wait
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wicked dude!! fullon respect for tryin it yas self!! if yas gets stuck im sure between us we may have (but then again...) lol, enough know how if you get stuck??
cant wait till my time after xmas :cool:
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cheers im sure i will need bit of help as I have not tackled out like this before
ill see if i can get some pictures and stuff of the swap
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aye you wanna mate, have a word with jv and get a 'robs monster vr6 mk2' dub section sorted i reckon..
:cool: :cool:
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Sweet Roberto. Did you get the info you was after then?
Lots of pics please :smiley:
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yeah I got lots of info it goes straight in I went to hear it runnin yesterday beefy as hell loved it
n reg its out of 90k which aint to bad and its chipped
some guy i was askin if he wud put engine in was saying i had to:
get g60 mounts
jumper harness or summat
4 pot princess breaks
seam weld my bay i think he said every inch
stainless steel exhaust tunnel
subframes
full of crap n wantin money out of me basically
so im doin it myself as lots of people said it goes straight in
just need some lifting gear to get it in n mine out
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think you will need to drill holes in the firewall for the cable change wires aswel :rolleyes:
seem welding the whole engine bay is abit extreme but it wouldnt hurt to get it done after all it is a beefy lump
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good on ya dude!me and a friend done a 2ltr conversion on my mk2.if you you put your mind to it you can do anything!got mine all timed up today i know she aint quite as big as yours but she flies and sounds sweet!going in for its respray this friday cant wait,then i can fit all the goodies!
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Good luck rob and much respect for having the balls to give it a go yourself. :grin:
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no need to seam weld anything, you will want beefier mounts though, 16v or G60 should do it. If you're using the vr6 brakes ( you really really really should upgrade your brakes somehow) then you'll need to do a hub swap or just use the entire vr6 drive train, either way that will leave you with 5 studs at the front so your wheels wont go back on :wink:
wiring shouldnt be too much of a git since you have a 90 spec with the later loom already
your front suspension will be as useful as a chocolate teapot too, get it swapped.
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Good on ya rob! If you need any help or tools then let me know and i will see if i can help (i.e the missus lets me! lol) All in exchange for a go when y done!
You keep saying that you need something to lift the engines. The whole front of a mk2 comes off you know making it real easy to just wheel the engine into place with a skateboard/trolley jack bodge up device. :grin:
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wont my suspension be ok as its alreayd lowered n stiffened?
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give it a try, if it feels soggy with the extra weight up front then its time to upgrade.
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right folks i nearly go tfront end out front bumper is in way now i think i found bolts to take it off 2 either side
but if i undo these will the engine drop at all? as they seem to be attatched to a mount by the looks of it
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ha ha if you can't take a bumper off how you gonna take an engine out!!! :laugh:
but yeah two bolts either side, engine wont fall as its held in on the cross member which is held on by the two outer bolts by the bumper bolts. don't go drving with no bumper though, as they do help hold it all together.
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right ive done that bumpers off but...
they was small little bolt inbetween the bumper ones as i did this it snapped and other sides
rounded off so bit of work next itme i have a bash at it but its lookin bare iwll post pics up soon
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Rob i came across a new guy setting up a garage for VW's last night. He does any conversion you want and knows his stuff. He drives a vr6 mk2 that he did himself so im sure he can help if you get stuck. He is based opposite the shops at Port Clarence. Rough i know but closer than most other garages. Ive got his number if you wanna give him a ring.
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yeah that would be great I could do with help on wiring as i think i will get stuck on that
heres a few pictures I took only 3
not very good quality but you get the idea
bumpers off now aswell
this is when head went on sunday
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/Rob119/CID__Photo-0147.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/Rob119/CID__Photo-0149.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/Rob119/CID__Photo-0150.jpg)
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Rob, get jv or rich to do a project thread for you in the projects section as I reckon we're all interested to see how you get on with this. :smiley:
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Rob you have a PM. Where are you in Redcar? i will come and have a look after work.
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Rob you have a PM. Where are you in Redcar? i will come and have a look after work.
nosey :tongue:
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I dont live in redcar i live in skelton very close by
I have got all front end out now I bypassed the broken bolt but think i need a new piece
you know the bit where fornt mount is as them 2 bars goin across are rotten
behind bumper
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I need help
i not been workin on it for a few days
but i want this engine out now so i can get the vr6 in
but what do i do to remove it
i dont no if i am right but i am taking driveshafts out tonite so there not attatched
then i will unbolt the exhaust, then i will label all the wiring so i know where it came from
and take that out
but how do i make engine be not bolted on to anything at all
soz if i sound bit thick i not done anything like this and i fancy it been fixed within
next week or so
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undo the drive shafts from the gearbox, undo the engine mounts and any connecting pipe work/wiring... wouldnt worry to much about the wiring as its all gonna be different anyways but yeah u could label it just in case....
easy, once youve removed the front cross member and the engine gear box mounts you can just walk it out... well that how i stripped an old 16v i had...
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the front cross members out petrol wont go all over will it because it aint sent through unless pump is on is it
sounds straight forward then should have it out tonite
my m8 came to help me out today well he was watchin and i told him to tilt the car as i was takin rear bumper off to get car in garage further in a little gap and what did he do leaned on my panel underneath passenger side window pushin car
with his feet on wall i was takin bumper off at the time after he had ogne i noticed a big dent where he was creased aswell
pissed me off
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Gutted, hope y give him a slap for being a nob! How you getting on?
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on stand still at the mo need a neew front cross member as mine is rotten and my mates dad is getitn me a steel gurder
for the garage roof so i can lift the engine n stuff as vr6 is goin to be heavy
gti one is holdin on by one bolt that will be out tonite i not been doin alot lately to it
and i get the vr6 this week once the steel beam is in
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How are you getting to work n stuff?
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lifts but they stopped today I dont have a clue how I am geitin there tomorrow
and home again no buses go past that way either
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Time to get your arse in gear then and get the engine fitted!