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General => General discussion => Topic started by: zolb on 19 August 2014, 15:23
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Hi, so I am in need of a new car, currently have a clio 182 from new that I am reluctant to get rid of but with a baby on the way we need a bigger car and she keeps telling me one with 5 doors :/
I have considered the following cars but cannot fully decide, they are all around the 10k - 12K mark and about 4years old apart from the st.
BMW 325i 2010
Focus ST 2012
Golf GTI 2010
Audi A4 2.0T
I have though about diesel 330d infact but I only do between 8000 - 9000 miles a year with the majority being very short trips.
so I am hoping some one will be able to help me out with advice and how suitable the golf would be.
thanks!
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Seeing as no one seems to be able to answer and i am really liking the golf can someone answer this for me ?
Just up the road from me there is a 2011 GTI for sale but it has just over 73k on the clock with FSH, possible rep car?, is this considered a high mileage or should it be added to my list of possibilities ?
I know you take a gamble on all cars even more so 2nd hand, what should I be looking for and weary of or should be looking to avoid ?
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That's high miles pal for a 3yr old car, you can do better than that, you looking in the right places for a GTi, auto trader, PH ? 4 door Gti I'm sure will cover all your needs for babies and performance, your right to keep the Clio. :cool: good luck. :wink:
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Hi, thanks for the reply, I am mainly using Auto Trader, thats where i have seem this one, its only 5miles away from me, also needs to be trade only not a private seller at the moment.
Also looked at some of the car supermarkets suck as Available Car, Car Craft, Motorpoint and some of the local independents, the one i have seem is at available car.
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I've always preferred private if it's one owner from new, they've looked after the car, you won't end up with a lemon like I did
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oh and defo a mk6 gti out of those cars!
look for one with lower mileage, I'm sure you can find a very tidy one with options for 12k with about 40k on the clock!
Good luck
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The Golf GTI will be the best all rounder but the A4 will be just as powerful but a lot more practical for family duties. To get the 2.0 TFSI engine more efficient, get it remapped as the extra power means less effort in the lower revs and smoother power delivery hence better economy...
... Provided you keep off the go faster pedal. :whistle:
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My Dad has a 2.0 TFSI A4 Auto (210bhp), blinding car goes like a rocket :cool:
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Shame it's an A4 though... Yawn.
Golf would be my call.
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Think I should stop coming on this site lol go for the bmw. Cost more on parts and services but thats probably because they are better cars. Am I bias? Yes maybe. Ive had 3 vw golfs and a audi a4. Ive only had two bmw's and they just are better cars.
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A4's are not boring not now I own one anyway :grin:
Think I should stop coming on this site lol go for the bmw. Cost more on parts and services but thats probably because they are better cars. Am I bias? Yes maybe. Ive had 3 vw golfs and a audi a4. Ive only had two bmw's and they just are better cars.
I agree with you to a point, BMW and Mercedes make better cars if you buy/drive the better models (6 Cylinder/M/AMG etc)
I don't personally see much difference between the lower end of the ranges and Audi VW models. I drive a shed load of hire cars in that range over long distances across Europe and I can say there is not much in it. I can say however that Vauxhall/Opel are ffing terrible with the best of the rest being Ford :shocked:
Something about a BMW or Merc 6 cylinder :cool:
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Facebook can't be wrong surely, there are also bad beemers. :whistle: :smug:
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Facebook can't be wrong surely, there are also bad beemers. :whistle: :smug:
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I'd say a seat guy made that :grin: im sure a audi r8 would get you the girls.
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A4's are not boring not now I own one anyway :grin:
Think I should stop coming on this site lol go for the bmw. Cost more on parts and services but thats probably because they are better cars. Am I bias? Yes maybe. Ive had 3 vw golfs and a audi a4. Ive only had two bmw's and they just are better cars.
I agree with you to a point, BMW and Mercedes make better cars if you buy/drive the better models (6 Cylinder/M/AMG etc)
I don't personally see much difference between the lower end of the ranges and Audi VW models. I drive a shed load of hire cars in that range over long distances across Europe and I can say there is not much in it. I can say however that Vauxhall/Opel are ffing terrible with the best of the rest being Ford :shocked:
Something about a BMW or Merc 6 cylinder :cool:
Valid point. I had a 528i se. lots of nice options (still best all round car ive had) and currently a m3, so cant really comment on tthe others.
If it was me I would get a slightly older bmw with more options and luxuries.
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I had a MK6 GTi and loved every second of ownership, sold it to pay for a house and now has a Y reg golf 4mo and although its a great runaround I miss the GTi every day and will own one again. Not a fan of the newest model just yet but definitely the best car ive ever owned and even my old man said the same and he has owned BMW's, Mercs, Audi's and Saabs.
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The Boss has just ordered a Merc A class (AMG) 2.1 TDI to replace a Mk6 GTD
The 7 speed auto box is pretty hot and build looks to be quite good, we will see how it fairs as he has the heaviest right foot in Sussex, 2 sets of Potenza's a year :grin:
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Golf would be the best all rounder for me too. Things to look out for would be the timing chain issue on early mk6 GTIs. If it has trouble starting walk away. Coincidentally mine will be up for sale soon. Currently it's in the dealership getting said timing chain issue sorted. It was the only issue I had though. It's a dec 09 reg with 50k ish and just me and 3 months with vw as demo as owners. Let me know if interested in knowing more.
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10-12k I'd be looking BMW 335i in auto without a doubt, burger tuning map and alpine gearbox software upgrade near 400hp straight away. Near bullet proof too.
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MK6 decent option, research in the MK6 forum.
Wouldn't say the 335i is bullet proof...much like any modern turbocharged vehicle.
Some of the wheels crack, run flats to blame (They are considered sh!te in general)
Turbo wastegate rattle, typically replacement of both turbos to rectify and engine out to perform the work...
Some HPFP problems, more so in the USA.
The Auto box is a torque converter not twin clutch on some models, you may not like how the fluid coupling operates.
Pre lci cars are fitted with the older sat nav which runs off a cd...lol.
That said the N54 is said to be highly tuneable and a nice 6 pot but i reckon the LCI N55 is probably more reliable (Twin scroll turbo) but more expensive used.
I find that I like the BMW engines more than the cars, they just seem a bit bland. I know VAG isn't the most exciting but it seems to have more style.
Some of the A4's have quattro, if you tune this will make better use of the power but it wont be as nimble and there will be a fuel penalty. This doesn't seem too much of an issue on your estimated mileage though.
Be patient and research each vehicle you look at. Check the MOT and mileages match up...there are some dogs out there.
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Hi great replies, thanks!
Most of the MK6 GTI's in my price range seem to have 65K plus on the clock, a friend has suggested a FL-mk2 Octavia vRS which i believe is basically a mk6 GTI with a bigger shell ?
Regarding the BMW, think my budget only stretches to a 325i 2010 model, from looking about it seems general running costs will not be that much different only if something major goes wrong does the price shoot up, but i could be wrong :)
Am i right in thinking in basic format there would not be much difference between the 325i, mk6 GTI and the vRS? am i also right in thinking the 325i would in theory be more reliable mechanically as there is less to go wrong ?
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Am i right in thinking in basic format there would not be much difference between the 325i, mk6 GTI and the vRS? am i also right in thinking the 325i would in theory be more reliable mechanically as there is less to go wrong ?
Errrrm, they all have 4 wheels if that's what you are asking?
One is a hatch
One is rear wheel drive (this is a fairly substantial difference)
Two are VAG and one is BMW
There are a lot of difference... Not sure how basic you were thinking with "basic format"?
And on the reliability front, how is there less to go wrong? Non of these cars should have major mechanical concerns.
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By basic i mean general maintenance, general servicing, no major parts to replace, similar MPG etc.
Less to go wrong because the 325i is a V6 not turbo, while maybe not "bullet proof" i read that they can be more reliable than turbo charged engines, more stress on them more to potentially go wrong, maybe what i read is incorrect, i really don't know hence my (daft) questions.
Is that no major mechanical concerns apart from the timing chain thing on the mk6 ? or am i reading to much in to this problem ? the thread in the mk6 forum is enough to put me off! ;)
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It's an L6 not a V6 in the 325i.
Well it's NA so on paper it should be more reliable but it won't be as punchy and there won't be as many tuning options.
Stock they will be similar performance but the turbocharged Golf will be more punchy day to day, the BM will probably sound better though.
As for the tensioner, you can always add the replacement into your budget for an earlier build engine.
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I've Brought a Mk6 GTI and love it.
Hope this helps :smiley:
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Over the years I've had a number of cars, imprezza turbo 2000, fn2 type R, BMW 530d, BMW 123d and a jag xfs all remapped and all very good cars, loads of performance with all extras in all of them all had areas they were very good in, I have a mk6 dsg remapped and I can honestly say I wish I'd had one years ago it does everything well !
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Buy a brand new Dacia Logan estate car for 8495 otr. That's not base spec either. Boost the warranty to 7 years for 850 and keep the rest for the new kid.
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I had the Golf mk6 GTi 5 door which like you was to cater for the needs of growing sons after having rather less practical choices previously. All I can say is it was the best car I had owned at that point. I have been so impressed I now have the mk7.
It's a cliche but it really is all the car you will ever need.
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Mk 1, 2, 3 and 4 all the way
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Mk 1 & 2 all the way
Fixed that typo for ya :wink: