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General => The garage => Topic started by: golf cabry on 21 October 2003, 10:18
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Can anyone tell me how to remove the housing around the steering column that holds the lock cylinder and ignition/starter switch on a mk1 cabriolet? I have removed the steering wheel and switches but cannot remove the housing unit for some reason. Cannot see what is holding it on. Any help welcome!
Cheers
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I took mine off - it was just a couple of screws underneath, then a bit of jiggling and it came right out.
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Screws underneath where? I have removed the steering wheel nut which lets you remove the wheel, the 3 screws holding the light and wiper switches etc and the bolt on the left hand side of the lock housing but it wont come off. Any ideas?
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I presume you are talking about the black plastic cowling around the column? if so - there are a couple of recessed screws on the underside of the lower half. take these out and it should come off.
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No, I am talking about the silver housing that you would drill into if you wanted to remove the lock cylinder. I want to remove it as I have a problem with the ignition power supply cutting off unless I hold the key in. The radio and electric hood dont work unless the key is held in and the barrel is pushed in.
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Ok, I see now. sorry I cant help with that one. ???
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I changed mine last year. Just trying to think how the lock and switch mechanism came away from the aluminium housing. I may have to look at one to remind myself.
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In desperate need of advice cos now ive removed the wheel and cant use the car until its all put back together again! Helppppp!
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I've read something about removing a lockwasher from the inner column and removing the spring and contact ring but don't know how this is done. Any help?
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I have done this twice on mine to get to the ignition switch mech. The assembly is held on by a bush with an spring behind it. It is a press and splined fit, you need a puller with thin fingers, depress the spring and you can just get the thin fingers in and pull it off ( so to speak ).
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What did you use as a puller with thin fingers Bdub? The spring seems very strong with little room for movement. Do you have any diagrams? In desperate need of help here!
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Here are some instructions for removal on a Mk2 Golf GTI. I'm sure you'll find its the same:-
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richandhazel1/gti/profix/running/main.htm#sws
The ignition switch itself (Item 8 below) sits underneath the lock cylinder. I'm sure you can remove that, in-situ, by removing a screw from underneath.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richandhazel1/gti/genpics/files/ign.jpg
I've always managed to remove the housing (item 7) without a puller.
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I cannot see the lock washer anywhere. Is that the part that has the splines to connect the wheel and steer?
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Ah, that might well be a part that is only applicable to the Mk2. Without ripping mine apart I couldn't say for sure but I don't think you have that. Have you got a Haynes manual as I'm sure there is a reasonable write up in there?
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I've got a Haynes manual for the mk1 but it's different from mine and doesn't give that good a write up. Really need advice from someone who has done it on a mk1 cabrio before as it seems different to the mk1 and mk2!
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I replaced the ignition switch on my Mk1 cabrio last year and managed to remove that housing from the steering column..........don't recall have the same grief that you're having. :-\
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I've posted some pics of where i've got up to. Maybe someone can describe where to go from here.
http://mysite.freeserve.com/RenaultClioSPORT/page6.html
http://mysite.freeserve.com/RenaultClioSPORT/page7.html
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Is that some kind of steering wheel adapter on there. That splined bit that the steering wheel engages with looks a lot larger than I've seen before.
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The more I look at it, the more I'm thinking thats a non standard adapter on there. You need to work out how to get that adapter off. Are there any grub screws?
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There are no grub screws or anything. The splined nut that you see sits on further splines inside. I was thinking about trying to knock this off but not confident as I don't know if it's meant to come off. Don't want to damage any of the splines! As for it being some sort of adapter, I assumed it was standard as the steering wheel is original (the one with the 3" x 5" horn in the centre).
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The inner splines are all I would usually expect to see. What year is your cabrio? Mine is 1983 so maybe the later one's are different, assuming yours is a later one. If you give me the year, I'll have a look in the Parts catalogue, see if that sheds any light.
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Just tried looking at a 1991 model and that does appear to show an adapter sleeve:-
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richandhazel1/gti/genpics/files/steercol.jpg)
My guess is yours is the 45mm one. My Mk1 Haynes manual doesn't mention that either. Just going to check my Mk2 Haynes.
At a guess I would think you're going to have to find a way to pull it off, but I'll have a look in my other manuals to see if they shed any light.
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It's a 1990 H reg.
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My Mk2 manual doesn't help either. AdamB might be able to help. He's got the J reg sportline and I know he's had his steering wheel off.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?action=viewprofile;user=adamb
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Ah...........he tried to help to start with didn't he. ::)
I'd have another go at trying to pull that adapter off.
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I think i need a puller but not sure where to get one from. It needs thin fingers to get in between the tight spring. Any ideas where to get a puller from?
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Is the steering wheel standard? i think if you have an adaptor on the steering column, then you will need a puller to remove it.
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Steering wheel is standard and I think richandhazel is right about a change in design around the '90 spec models. Have heard it may be easier to remove the inner column which would allow me to get at the splined lock washer but don't know if this is an easy job. Anyone done this?