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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: MPFIEND on 26 July 2014, 22:21
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Good Evening,
Whilst cleaning my GTI today I found that one of my locking wheel nuts is slightly rounded out and the key keeps slipping out when pressure is applied. The key is ok because I got the other 3 undone with out any problems.
Has any one used the Laser 3291 Locking Wheel Nut Remover with any success on this type of locking wheel nut, if so what size do I need to order as there appears to be a few different sets available.
If you have any other methods for removing these then I would like to hear them
Best Regards
Keith.
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Hi Keith,
I had the same issue a month or so back - where are you based?
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Hi, I'm down on the south coast.
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I went round in circles with the tyre fitters, the dealers and back again - no one could help other than to say they'd have to drill them off!
As a last ditch attempt I googled locking wheel nut removal and came up with a really friendly guy, John, who was based 5 minutes from me in Solihull. He came to my office within 10 minutes and 10 minutes after that, they were off with no damage to the wheel or nut!
I don't know if he's prepared to travel, but his contact details are:
W 0121 733 1965
M 07776 231 952
E info@lockingwheelnut-removal.co.uk
Tell him I sent you his way and good luck!
Si.
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Thanks Si,
I'll google and see if there is a closer option, if not I'll give him a call but I suspect I'm too far away.
Keith.
Are there any home methods to remove them out there?
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Call him any way - he basically used a scissor jack to line up the key into the lock and then went to town on it with an appropriate mallet to get the bite - I actually couldn't watch and left him to it...
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Ive bashed an old socket from a socket set on locking wheel bolts a few times before to remove them. Fitted the socket onto an extension bar. Put insulating tape round the socket to stop it marking anything. Then hammered onto the locking wheel bolt by hitting the extention bar. I would not be refitting a worn one anyway so not bothered if I damaged it further.
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Ive bashed an old socket from a socket set on locking wheel nuts a few times before to remove them. Fitted the socket onto an extension bar. Put insulating tape round the socket to stop it marking anything. Then hammered on the socket by hitting the extention bar. I would not be refitting a worn one anyway so not bothered if I damaged it further.
Thanks Snoopy, Do you remember what size socket you used? I'll give this a try.
Best Regards
Keith.
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the old socket is the best course of action try getting a 19mm over the top its tight but deffo works
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the old socket is the best course of action try getting a 19mm over the top its tight but deffo works
Thanks Ben,
Best Regards
Keith.
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as said a smaller socket , just be prepared to beat the sh!t out of it to get it on
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as said a smaller socket , just be prepared to beat the sh!t out of it to get it on
Thanks Gm8, I had a look today but don't have a 19mm 12 point socket at home only a 6 point.
I'm going to get a new set of locking wheel nuts tomorrow from the dealer, so then I can work on the stubborn one. After I find a suitable socket.
If any one has any different views on this I'd like to read them.
Best Regards
Keith.
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Could try this, I looked at it when I could get one of my McGard nuts off, but fortunately my local tyre place did it for free.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/laser-emergency-locking-wheel-nut-remover-set-4-pieces/94826
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Could try this, I looked at it when I could get one of my McGard nuts off, but fortunately my local tyre place did it for free.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/laser-emergency-locking-wheel-nut-remover-set-4-pieces/94826
Thanks mustard, will these fit ? I have monza 2 shadows and the clearance looks very small between the nut and the wheel.
Has any body tried these?
Best Regards
Keith.
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A mate of mine owns a car dealers. Its been going in the family for just over 100 years. he really loosens off all the other bolts on the wheel and then gently drives it round the car park. The offending bolt loosens fairly quickly, and if you check it frequently, no damage is done.
He has done loads like this, he's a really careful guy, preps race cars for a hobby..
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That's the same trick I use for seized hub nuts like rovers lol. Get an almighty clunk when it shuttles the shaft against the nut.
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A mate of mine owns a car dealers. Its been going in the family for just over 100 years. he really loosens off all the other bolts on the wheel and then gently drives it round the car park. The offending bolt loosens fairly quickly, and if you check it frequently, no damage is done.
He has done loads like this, he's a really careful guy, preps race cars for a hobby..
Andy, C2K, thanks for the tips Gents I'll give it a try.
I have now tried the 19mm socket but this size seems far to small, I removed one of the other locking bolts and measured it, the outside diameter is 23.5mm and the bore of the wheel is around 30mm. So the 19mm socket will have to yield by almost 2mm to fit over the bolt and a larger socket may not fit into the recess in the wheel.
off to a dark room to have another think.....
Best Regards
Keith
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Well after a lay down in a dark room, and really not wanting to go to a dealer or tyre fitter, I found a mate at work that owned a Snap on impact driver.
After loosening the other three locking wheel nuts first I went to work on the stubborn one. Forcing the gun and the key socket firmly against the nut then fired it up. After about 5 mins nothing was happening, so I tried agin then it finally went.(15 minutes later)
I am so relieved at this. Now I can clean the wheel and fit the new set of locking wheel nuts correctly.
Thanks Gents for all your input, this forum is definitely a fantastic resource, with very helpful members.
Best Regards
Keith.
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I'm kinda confused what you guys are on about my locking wheel nuts are round not hex shaped so couldn't bang a socket on and the nuts tight in the alloy wheel nut bore so you couldn't get anything over it
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Well after a lay down in a dark room, and really not wanting to go to a dealer or tyre fitter, I found a mate at work that owned a Snap on impact driver.
After loosening the other three locking wheel nuts first I went to work on the stubborn one. Forcing the gun and the key socket firmly against the nut then fired it up. After about 5 mins nothing was happening, so I tried agin then it finally went.(15 minutes later)
I am so relieved at this. Now I can clean the wheel and fit the new set of locking wheel nuts correctly.
Thanks Gents for all your input, this forum is definitely a fantastic resource, with very helpful members.
Best Regards
Keith.
Great that your sorted.
Best idea is to buy a set of original bolts and ditch the lockers all together. It not the 1980s anymore so people don't go round stealing alloy wheels and CD players. :grin:
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"Best idea is to buy a set of original bolts and ditch the lockers all together. It not the 1980s anymore so people don't go round stealing alloy wheels and CD players"
That may be, but my insurance company insist on locking bolts for alloy wheels, especially non standard wheels.
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I'm kinda confused what you guys are on about my locking wheel nuts are round not hex shaped so couldn't bang a socket on and the nuts tight in the alloy wheel nut bore so you couldn't get anything over it
Matty,
I too was a little confused at first as my bolts are round and recessed into the wheel. As mentioned some people have had success using a 19mm socket to remove the lock nuts, but this did not work for me as the socket was far too small. this must have been used on a different wheel and bolt type.
I removed one of the "good" bolts and measured it up it seems that you could get a 22mm or 7/8" socket over the round bolt with enough interference to grip the round diameter of the bolt, having said that though it would have to be a 3/8" drive socket as the recess diameter of the Monza 2 shadow is only 29-30mm and a 1/2" drive socket would be to fat.
I hope this makes things a little clearer.
Best Regards
Keith.
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Great that your sorted.
Best idea is to buy a set of original bolts and ditch the lockers all together. It not the 1980s anymore so people don't go round stealing alloy wheels and CD players. :grin:
Thanks Mart,
I have brought a new set of locking wheel bolts and four new standard wheel bolts. I plan to replace the locking bolts with the standard type every time the car has a trip to the Dealer or tyre fitter so they cannot damage them :grin:
Best Regards
Keith.
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"Best idea is to buy a set of original bolts and ditch the lockers all together. It not the 1980s anymore so people don't go round stealing alloy wheels and CD players"
That may be, but my insurance company insist on locking bolts for alloy wheels, especially non standard wheels.
Hi Mustard,
My insurance is the same, I have brought new locking bolts and four standard bolts which I will fit when the car goes to the dealer or tyre fitter, so they cannot damage the locking nuts.
Best Regards
Keith.