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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Golf mk7 GTD/TDI => Topic started by: TheCarMadDad on 24 July 2014, 06:01
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So this morning, I went to start my car as normal. But instead of it turning over normally and starting within a second or so, it really really struggled today. It took about 4 seconds to start and then an error with the stop/start came up.
I turned the car off and then started it back up and everything was fine. It was very strange. The only couple of things I thought may have caused the issue are 1) the installation of my DTUK box, or 2) my 'spirited' drive late last night.
Anyone else had similar?!
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Not had the Start Stop warning, but from day one, I've noticed my GTD (from cold) takes a few seconds to turn over before firing. When it's warm it's instant.
I found that (as I have keyless), that pressing the start button (without pressing the brake pedal), switches on the ignition and hence the glow plugs, and then as soon as the needle sweep has finished, I then press the brake pedal re-press the start button and the car starts immediately, so don't know if if just needs a few seconds for the electronics to sort themselves out ?
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I've had this a couple of times, can't see any pattern to it.
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I've had it once or twice where it's turned over for a couple of secs max (as in much more than the usual two turns), but can't say 4 or 5 secs.
Had you moved it a short distance?
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Thanks for the replies.
I didn't move it, all that happened was my usual commute home last night with a bit of spirited driving. Parked it up, went to bed, woke up, went to start and that's about it. My fuel light has just come on, not sure if that makes a difference or not :/
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Happened again this morning :-(
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Mine has been taking 4s to turn over this past week from cold on a morning. DTUK.Box coming off in 10 days time for my service, I will let you know if that changes things.
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I wouldn't say it's the DTUK box. Mine did it this morning too and my car is standard.
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I didn't hink it would be the DTUK box as it doesn't modify throttle response at the bottom (idling) end. Wonder whether it's an aircon thing? Have aircon on the journey before, forget to switch it off and car will take longer to turn over next cold start?
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I never turn the climate control off and I have never experienced an unusually long startup...
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I too have this. Glad it isnt just me. Some morning starts as normal. Others the engine noticably turns for a few seconds more. Not enough to be mega worried about but enough to notice.
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Just a quick update...
So this is starting to happen frequently now, but only when the engine is left to go stone cold (overnight). Anyhow, after reading on this thread, instead of starting the car straight away when I get in, I press the start button so that just the ignition comes on, then wait 5 secs or so and start up as normal and the problem disappears and starts as normal.
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It'll just be the glow plugs then. On my Audi, the glow plug dash icon lights up when you turn the ignition on, you wait until it goes out before starting. It takes longer the colder the engine/weather. If you try and start before it goes out the engine can turn over several times before firing.
Sounds normal to me for a diesel, though given the weather I'm surprised it's got cold enough for the glow plugs to need a bit of time!
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It'll just be the glow plugs then. On my Audi, the glow plug dash icon lights up when you turn the ignition on, you wait until it goes out before starting. It takes longer the colder the engine/weather. If you try and start before it goes out the engine can turn over several times before firing.
Sounds normal to me for a diesel, though given the weather I'm surprised it's got cold enough for the glow plugs to need a bit of time!
I've tried waiting for the glowplug light to go out and it still takes 4s to turn over most of the time. Shouldn't even need glowplug assistance above 5C ambient temp.
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I've tried waiting for the glowplug light to go out and it still takes 4s to turn over most of the time. Shouldn't even need glowplug assistance above 5C ambient temp.
Hmm strange, not had the same with our GTD, and yes it shouldn't have been cold enough. Did either of you try without the box to see if that's a cause?
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It should be set up the way My Audi A1 is.
When you get in and turn the key to fire it up, nothing happens. It automatically waits till the glow plugs are ready before it starts.
I've seen me in the winter turn the key then being able to grab my seat belt before it actually starts. The first few times you do it, you actually think there is a fault.
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Don't known about any of the other guys but I'm not talking about the time it takes from pressing the button to the engine beginning to turn / start. I'm referring to the number of times the engine turns while starting. Sometimes it is noticeably longer. Kind of along the lines of what you would expect when you have a problem with the starter/alternator but obviously not as bad.
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Don't known about any of the other guys but I'm not talking about the time it takes from pressing the button to the engine beginning to turn / start. I'm referring to the number of times the engine turns while starting. Sometimes it is noticeably longer. Kind of along the lines of what you would expect when you have a problem with the starter/alternator but obviously not as bad.
I'm talking about actual turn-over time too from when the starter motor turns the car to when it splutters into life. It's not my box either, tried it with and without. Seems to happen on a really warm morning.
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Yup, same as monkey and the others, I'm talking about the time it takes to turn over not how long before the glow plugs have warmed. There doesn't seem to be any pattern at the moment apart from first thing in the morning. Will just have to monitor it, for now at least turning the ignition on then starting the engine seems to work
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Mine has been doing it fairly regularly in the morning as it's turned cooler. 16k miles. Not far off a service so will mention it then!
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Mine does as described here.
Not usually first thing in the morning, more likely at the end of the working day when I leave the office.
You get it crank over for 4 or 5 seconds before firing like some sort of problem, then it fires up and you get a stop start error.
Turn it off, start it back up and it fires first time, error message cleared.
Its done it since I've had it, about once or twice a week. Temperatures seems to make no difference.