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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: dirvy on 15 July 2014, 02:27

Title: New scirocco R
Post by: dirvy on 15 July 2014, 02:27
£32300...... Wtf
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: virginVWman on 15 July 2014, 07:23
Haaaaaa actually laughed out loud at this, couldnt agree more. I juat cant see what "new" about it. I have never been a fan of them. Plus, how or why would you pay more for this than a 7r. No brainer imo. But i do believe there is more as standard
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: GrahamFR on 15 July 2014, 08:05
there isnt many options you need to add by the looks of it but its old tech.

yes you get a satnav as standard but its RNS315 from a mk2 leon, no ACC and CC is an extra, so is hill hold which just annoys me as that should be standard kit.

And most importantly, no MQB!
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 July 2014, 08:14
Crazy money for Cupra performance in old chassis tech, without 4wd, but with Vienna leather and DCC as standard. It looks very poor value next to the Golf R. Had 2 Sciroccos and loved them, but too many cars out there copying the looks and ride comfort on MQB platform is noticeably superior. This will look very poor value next to new TT, unless their prices are hiked massively too (although Scirocco can comfortably fit 2.adults in the back).
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: GrahamFR on 15 July 2014, 08:46
does it mention the diff?
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: wigit on 15 July 2014, 09:56
i don't even think its got the same engine as the R or Cupra (all be it same power)

Interesting is DCC has same level of functionality

my mk6 35 was a way better car than the rocco, the 7R is just in a different league
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: GrahamFR on 15 July 2014, 10:01
you're right, the fuel consumption is too high, wonder if they've put any new hardware on it or if its just a measily map
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: CraigW on 15 July 2014, 11:02
Crazy money for Cupra performance in old chassis tech, without 4wd, but with Vienna leather and DCC as standard. It looks very poor value next to the Golf R. Had 2 Sciroccos and loved them, but too many cars out there copying the looks and ride comfort on MQB platform is noticeably superior. This will look very poor value next to new TT, unless their prices are hiked massively too (although Scirocco can comfortably fit 2.adults in the back).

The next TT is potentially looking very very expensive. Going by the prices on the German Audi site your looking at £31,000 for the 2.0l Quattro s-tronic and closer to £40,000 for the TTS  :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: dubber36 on 15 July 2014, 11:19
For so many people, the sticker price is surely irrelevant isn't it? Many people have posted on here about how they can drive around in whatever car for so much a month. So as long as the residuals are strong and the overall cost of the finance deal is affordable, that's all that most people are bothered about. It's only when all the money comes from your account in one go that it might smart a bit.

I'm surprised there aren't any deals on the Scirroco by now however. It's due to be replaced and about time. I've thought it has been old hat for a couple of years or more.
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: GrahamFR on 15 July 2014, 12:19
This is the replacement tho,  won't be any deals on a "new" model. You'd have to be an idiot to buy this, everything is old.
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: dubber36 on 15 July 2014, 12:30
Oh. I didn't realise.

My comments regarding the way people fund their cars still applies tho'.
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 July 2014, 12:34
I did see the new TTS vs S3 pricing for your extra 10ps - very pricey. Maybe a new wave of Audi pricing corrections is on it's way? For the last 5 years (when the mk6 golf came in at 20% more than the outgoing mk5), VW prices have climbed higher than Audi, not leaving much of a gap. Maybe Audis are about to become expensive again (relative to VW)?

Sticker price may not seem hugely relevant these days, but if you add thousands to the RRP, you're still going to have to stump up around half in depreciation for.a 3 year term of ownership, absorbed in monthly PCP or rental fees.
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: GrahamFR on 15 July 2014, 13:11
Oh. I didn't realise.

My comments regarding the way people fund their cars still applies tho'.

Hence the slagging off of the car, i wouldnt be slagging off the old one i actually like it, but this is more than R without any new toys
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: Organisys on 15 July 2014, 13:18
How much!!! - that is plain daft!
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: Booth11 on 15 July 2014, 13:38
there isnt many options you need to add by the looks of it but its old tech.

yes you get a satnav as standard but its RNS315 from a mk2 leon, no ACC and CC is an extra, so is hill hold which just annoys me as that should be standard kit.

And most importantly, no MQB!

They're just trying to dress it up with the 'more as standard' spec, but as the saying goes, 'you can't make a silk purse of a sow's ear'  :wink:

Totally pointless and up against an R - it's a no-brainer. 

Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: dubber36 on 15 July 2014, 14:38
So when they say 'new', they really mean face lifted. This may mean that it is a run out model and a new MQB car will be on the way.
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: matchboy on 16 July 2014, 11:04
Specced one last night - just under £35k  :shocked: Makes the Golf R look like a steal!  Unsure of VW's strategy on this one, it's a lovely car but totally overpriced, and as someone has also said it's got loads of old tech in the cabin - doesn't make sense!
Title: Re: New scirocco R
Post by: Gorocco on 16 July 2014, 16:23
I had a GT170 Rocco and I loved it ( although not quite enamoured with the steering ). Whilst with the facelift they've added xenon's and LED's I don't think it looks as good. The original is a great looking car, always a head turner,  but overall I am much more impressed with the Golf GTI - more so for excellent steering.