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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Discopants9 on 13 July 2014, 17:25

Title: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Discopants9 on 13 July 2014, 17:25
Anyone having issues with rust on the wheel hubs not sure I have the right terminology here, its painted silver but on all 4 of my wheels its showing about 1/4 of it has now rusted - would this be covered under warranty ?
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: itavaltalainen on 13 July 2014, 17:33
sadly normal... my rear hubs are noticeably rusty....
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: phazer on 13 July 2014, 17:34
Won't be covered on warranty, it's nice that they're painted from the factory actually. They will always rust I'm afraid. Best you can do is take the wheels off rub down and paint with smooth hammerite and it'll last much longer (if you do enough prep a pretty long time :) )
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Jackie Treehorn on 13 July 2014, 18:04
Hammerite every few years keeps them looking like new. F and E series BMW owners (like me) had it within 1month of ownership. Just get cheap brush and crack on with it  :wink:
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Talk-torque on 13 July 2014, 20:42
This seems to vary, car to car. Not sure why it should, but this is my third Golf and, in this respect, the best of the lot. All 4 still look quite smart, and I live by the sea! As said above, the treatment is to paint them yourself with Hammerite, or something similar. You might also want to do your brake callipers, unless you're lucky enough to have the factory painted jobs.
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Gnasher on 13 July 2014, 22:45
I'm out in Cyprus and the car has seen rain (in the time I've had it) less than half a dozen times and the discs are rusting in the centre.

Time for the smoothrite!
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: TheCarMadDad on 13 July 2014, 23:21
Isn't the hub part of the brake disc assembly? If so just do a track day and get the discs changed  :evil:
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Jackie Treehorn on 14 July 2014, 14:48
I have had the hammerite/smoothrite paint bubble on brake hub especially on track days due to the nanny braking system lightly squeezing the brakes constantly. If you do track days you may want to consider the caliper specific paints that are available. But fir road use its been fine otherwise
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Bandit127 on 14 July 2014, 19:51
I have a mk4 with 137k on the clock, so I am not fussy about rusty disk hubs. You can't see much through the flaking on the rims anyway...  :sad:

But if I was I wouldn't use Hammerite. Stove enamel is an old fashioned paint made for high temp applications (i.e. stoves). Much more robust for the application.
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: scoobyc on 14 July 2014, 20:09
Very High Temperature (VHT) engine lacquer will work just as well as any caliper paint kit and cost you a lot less  :wink:
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: mjh_056 on 11 September 2015, 09:38
Just parked next to a  64 plate R with Cadiz and front and rear hubs had noticeable rust even through the narrower Cadiz styling.

Is this not something they resolved? or plan to? anyone have any information on this as its pretty poor as obviously a model wide issue.

Was thinking of Pretoria on mine but given the open nature of the design the rust will look awful.

Mine in for servicing soon and as much as not expect anything to happen will be noting it as an issue that at least want response on. Mine just the rear though.
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Optimus prime on 11 September 2015, 12:55
Just parked next to a  64 plate R with Cadiz and front and rear hubs had noticeable rust even through the narrower Cadiz styling.

Is this not something they resolved? or plan to? anyone have any information on this as its pretty poor as obviously a model wide issue.

Was thinking of Pretoria on mine but given the open nature of the design the rust will look awful.

Mine in for servicing soon and as much as not expect anything to happen will be noting it as an issue that at least want response on. Mine just the rear though.

Yep mine were the same until re-painted with black smooth hammerite
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: mjh_056 on 11 September 2015, 17:44
Just parked next to a  64 plate R with Cadiz and front and rear hubs had noticeable rust even through the narrower Cadiz styling.

Is this not something they resolved? or plan to? anyone have any information on this as its pretty poor as obviously a model wide issue.

Was thinking of Pretoria on mine but given the open nature of the design the rust will look awful.

Mine in for servicing soon and as much as not expect anything to happen will be noting it as an issue that at least want response on. Mine just the rear though.

Yep mine were the same until re-painted with black smooth hammerite

Think that forms part of my annoyance in that they could be manufactured with a form of protection that would last a few years at least yet folk are having to hammerite them after sometimes only a few months and for me that is not really acceptable on a £30k car.

Given some alloys are of such a design that these hubs are in full view it becomes a must do job as a lot of money to spend on standout alloys for all anyone to notice is the rust behind it.

Just surprised how accepted it is that the owner resolves it themselves and is not seen as a real issue to address at source.
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: GeoBog on 11 September 2015, 18:04
Just parked next to a  64 plate R with Cadiz and front and rear hubs had noticeable rust even through the narrower Cadiz styling.

Is this not something they resolved? or plan to? anyone have any information on this as its pretty poor as obviously a model wide issue.

Was thinking of Pretoria on mine but given the open nature of the design the rust will look awful.

Mine in for servicing soon and as much as not expect anything to happen will be noting it as an issue that at least want response on. Mine just the rear though.

I've had rust on my rears as well after 1 year into ownership. Nothing that a few drops of Hammerite can't sort out.
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Sootchucker on 13 September 2015, 22:20
Did mine a few months ago. Still looking good as new.

Before

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7698/17336730399_8da4747578_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/spZgWP)

After

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/462/18147263738_5eebf9fae2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tDBtgy)
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Moranatang on 09 November 2016, 21:26
What is the best way to apply the paint spray it on or brush it on ? And what is best to use
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: GeoBog on 09 November 2016, 22:08
Hammerite and brush => easiest fix. For spray you would have to mask the area around the wheel and arch to avoid overspraying the car.
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Jonny_D_1987 on 09 November 2016, 22:45
Love those calipers, are they standard on the GTD's these days? Look real smart
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: fredgroves on 10 November 2016, 09:54
Nope, red callipers are from Sport and Sound
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: JoeGTI on 10 November 2016, 10:50
My rears on the R are pretty bad now. Fronts are fine actually. Car is about 15 months old. I've been meaning to tackle them with the hammerite but haven't found the time / motivation. At this stage they'll wait till the Spring.
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: madmanmart on 10 November 2016, 12:10
(http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp35/madmanmart666/8577DC7F-AFB6-4E11-B118-CD498F3AE3C1_zpsu0grzzpa.jpg)
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: boydeee on 10 November 2016, 14:24
(http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp35/madmanmart666/8577DC7F-AFB6-4E11-B118-CD498F3AE3C1_zpsu0grzzpa.jpg)

I agree! I know the top end models cost circa £30k but I don't think it's right to say it shouldn't rust. It's a mass produced car and all cars rust unfortunately :grin:
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: gtiaps on 10 November 2016, 20:22
Anyone having issues with rust on the wheel hubs not sure I have the right terminology here, its painted silver but on all 4 of my wheels its showing about 1/4 of it has now rusted - would this be covered under warranty ?

Not had it start on the Gti as if yet but expecting it we had the same happen in the wife's scirocco went to dealers with that to be informed it's not warrenty covered it's down to wear and tear sk I just bought some high temperature calliper paint and did both the callipers and hubs all way round.. :whistle:
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Moranatang on 11 November 2016, 22:29
Do you need to apply a VHT paint or is hammerite got enough high heat properties
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Talk-torque on 11 November 2016, 22:42
Do you need to apply a VHT paint or is hammerite got enough high heat properties

I've used Hammerite with good results.

This has been going on, to my knowledge, ever since I had my Golf Mk iv new. I've seen brand new cars in the compound with rusty hubs. Shouldn't happen on any car, these days, as there are plenty of ways of stopping it which wouldn't cost a lot. I reckon it's just one of those things that "have always been done that way". Lazy!
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: clubsport on 11 November 2016, 22:45
I was concerned with the heat issue. I rubbed my hubs down to paint with Vht silver engine paint.
They lasted 6 months before some surface rust came through, I will use Hammerite next as it may have the thickness required to hide the annoying rust.
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: gtiaps on 15 November 2016, 21:36
I used G-Tech calliper and engine paint had I'd on my 2000 focus for over 6yrs no rust ever came through was well pleased with it I bought the same for the wife's scirocco  :whistle:
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Pixelmix on 10 July 2017, 14:18
Bump to see how people are getting on a while after painting?

I need to tidy up my GTI which is almost 3 years old. Are people getting good results by wire wooling/sanding the hubs and then applying silver/grey hammerite?

Any recommendations for specific paints greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: Watts on 10 July 2017, 14:32
Bump to see how people are getting on a while after painting?

I need to tidy up my GTI which is almost 3 years old. Are people getting good results by wire wooling/sanding the hubs and then applying silver/grey hammerite?

Any recommendations for specific paints greatly appreciated.

Thanks

At the great risk of sounding like a smartarse but unintentionally, can I suggest you read this thread? Loads of good advice and recommendations above including longevity. Good bump though.
Title: Re: Rust on the wheel hubs anyone
Post by: JoeGTI on 10 July 2017, 15:21
I did mine in April. Just scrubbed them a bit with sandpaper and then a couple of coats of silver smooth hammerite. They still look good today ~3 months later. The real test though will be the winter, but I'm glad I did them as they looked terrible.