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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Dave the Cat on 17 June 2014, 19:19

Title: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: Dave the Cat on 17 June 2014, 19:19
I was driving South bound on the M1 today in glorious sunshine at about 16:30 just before Newport Pagnall when i heard a wallop, looking in my rear view mirror there was a lump of something in the road about the size of a packet of 20 fags, i can only assume it was a chunk of metal?

Under breaking the car felt momentarily unstable and the traction light briefly came on followed by the tyre warning, fortunately the entry slip to the services was about 200 yards in front of me. I pulled in expecting a front puncture but it was the back drivers side. I consoled myself that i was not on the hard shoulder, it was not dark or raining, rolled my sleeves up and proceeded to put the donut on. On removing the wheel, lets just say i was slightly shocked to see the extent of damage to the inner rim!

I rang my local VW dealer in Little Chalfont and spoke to Drew, who very understandingly took my details and he hopes to have to a new wheel and tyre ready for Thursday  :smiley:

Trying to take the positives; at least VW did not fit run flats as i would have been completely buggered, and by the time i had limped home at 50mph (speed limiter set) i had achieved a new personal record breaking 67mpg!

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Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: Ginge 35Edition on 17 June 2014, 19:44
Wow, it beggers belief that this can happen nowadays. So that's you and the R driver in Oz, hope VW are taking notice?
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: wardtowers on 17 June 2014, 21:32
Unlucky mate, not many things are going to survive hitting blocks of metal at 70 (odd  :whistle:) miles an hour..
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: GTD184 on 17 June 2014, 21:34
Wow, it beggers belief that this can happen nowadays. So that's you and the R driver in Oz, hope VW are taking notice?

Surprisingly on both incidents it is the 18" wheel. There was a post on the Golf 7 forum recently where a 19" Santiago was buckled, although that appears to have been the result of the owner hitting a speed bump too fast.

Most stories doing the rounds on the internet about faulty wheels relate to 19" wheels in particular BMW! So to hear about 2 VW 18" wheels is quite worrying!
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: Talk-torque on 17 June 2014, 23:18
Let's be clear here, VW cannot be blamed for this damage. As above, hit something solid at high speed and there will be significant results. What happened to the OP's car after the event probably owes a lot to the fact that the wheel largely held together, as well as the inherent stability of the car. This could have been a lot worse!
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: Skinnee D on 18 June 2014, 06:20
Wow, it beggers belief that this can happen nowadays. So that's you and the R driver in Oz, hope VW are taking notice?

Surprisingly on both incidents it is the 18" wheel. There was a post on the Golf 7 forum recently where a 19" Santiago was buckled, although that appears to have been the result of the owner hitting a speed bump too fast.

Most stories doing the rounds on the internet about faulty wheels relate to 19" wheels in particular BMW! So to hear about 2 VW 18" wheels is quite worrying!
I thought that the shattered Oz wheel was a 19" version that's not available in the UK, but whatever - makes me even less enthusiastic for my elastic bands for tyres that offer jack sh1t wheel protection.  Bad luck Dave - hope VW come up with goods quickly for you.  My dealer got a replacement GTD wheel in next day for a warranty job so it should be a standard stock item.
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: mcmaddy on 18 June 2014, 08:07
Standard stock item  :grin: :grin: Everything is ordered overnight or two days lead time now. They order on demand and keep very little in stock.
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: mike. on 18 June 2014, 13:04
It's amazing your front rim is not damaged as it probably hit the object first  :shocked:
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: corgi on 18 June 2014, 13:06
Surprisingly on both incidents it is the 18" wheel. There was a post on the Golf 7 forum recently where a 19" Santiago was buckled, although that appears to have been the result of the owner hitting a speed bump too fast.

Most stories doing the rounds on the internet about faulty wheels relate to 19" wheels in particular BMW! So to hear about 2 VW 18" wheels is quite worrying!

I don't think it is worrying at all, it is obvious from the pictures that the wheel has been subject to significant external force.

For the failures mentioned on this page (the Golf R/the Santiago etc.) there is no proof at all that the failure was down to a manufacturing or design fault. It is far more likely that all of them were as the result of some sort of external damage.

It may be fair to say that larger rim sizes and lower profile tyres make this sort of damage more likely than in the past but the market has demanded these changes...

Jumping to conclusions and scaremongering don't help here... but it is worth checking for unseen damage if you hit something or fall into a pot hole with a wheel...
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: davyk31 on 18 June 2014, 13:30
Why does the OP say he would have been buggered had the car been on runflats? Surely they would actually have improved the situation as he could have driven on then made repair at a safe and convenient location.
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: GTD184 on 18 June 2014, 14:29
It's amazing your front rim is not damaged as it probably hit the object first  :shocked:

My thoughts too!
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: isleaiw on 18 June 2014, 15:00
Why does the OP say he would have been buggered had the car been on runflats? Surely they would actually have improved the situation as he could have driven on then made repair at a safe and convenient location.

Because you can only drive 50 miles at 50 mph on them and he had further to go before he could get a new one fitted?

I had a puncture on a runflat at 10.30pm at night 200 miles away from home, had to stay the night in a hotel as no space saver to get me home. Then found next day no run flat of right size in stock anywhere locally (this was a 3 series BMW back in 2006/7) and so had to leave the car and get a train home.

wont buy a car without a spare of some description these days!

Ian
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: GTI-7-Performance on 18 June 2014, 16:30
Who would have thought a packet of 20 fags could do that??  :shocked:
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: Dave the Cat on 18 June 2014, 19:37
Had an email from the dealer earlier, new wheel with balanced tyre will be available fro 14:00 tomorrow  :smiley:

Dealer advised me there is no distance limit on the space saver but only has 3mm of tread so limited in that sense, also incredibly noisy, looks awful and have to drive like Miss Daisy! But will get me through a few days of commuting.

I do think this sort of damage would have happened regardless of manufacture, would make an interesting test for the Mythbuster brothers! Bit like the frozen chicken test on cockpit windows. 

As i was driving in a straight line  I think the front wheel must have run over it first and kicked up the offending lump which hit the rear tyre awkwardly, something had to give at that speed.

First time in 24 years anything like this has happened....we all need to keep a good look out for debris and pot holes, safe driving everyone
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: Skinnee D on 19 June 2014, 07:39
Standard stock item  :grin: :grin: Everything is ordered overnight or two days lead time now. They order on demand and keep very little in stock.
Ok ok, I should have said standard central stock item with overnight delivery :smiley:
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 19 June 2014, 10:58
This is a regular occurrence with large wheels with low profile tyres.
Title: Re: Broken Wheel GTD
Post by: 182_blue on 12 July 2014, 19:55
Wow, it beggers belief that this can happen nowadays. So that's you and the R driver in Oz, hope VW are taking notice?

Really ?, thats two incidents only and both hit objects at high speed.