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Title: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Ozz on 07 September 2005, 10:43
Hi, am after a fairly simple system haveing just sold my rather large one!! Was just wondering what I should be going for on quite a modest budget? I like a bit of bass, its good to feel the car rumble every now and then, but I mainly listen to alternative rock, so not much of the ground shaking bass going on!! Also listen to a bit of dance music every now and then, so bass needs to be able to keep up with that.

I was thinking either one or two 10" subs, mounted on either side of the boot (next to the wheel arch) with the amps hidden away out of sight, so that I still have my boot (which was the biggest problem with my last install!!).

So then, does this sound like what I want? And what brand of speakers should I be looking at? Have always used vibe in the past which I've liked, but was wondering if theres anything else out there thats better that I can still afford!!!

Cheers,

Tim
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Mr Blue on 07 September 2005, 12:01
im running a single 12'' sub in a sealed box. It can make ur nose itch on the right settings. It doesnt take alot of room in the boot either

its a 12'' JBL 1000W one. you can pick up a jbl sub/amp package on the cheap from caraudiosecurity.com

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Ozz on 07 September 2005, 12:15
Thats a good link that. The 12" JBL crunch package looks a bargain, 1000w sub with 500w amp, boxed with a wiring kit!!

May have to go for that!! Is it nice and tight? Really do want a good punchy base at times, and thought I'd have to go for 10's for that?
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Mr Blue on 07 September 2005, 13:10
i prefer 12''s as they all great for all types of music. you can always adjust the setting on the amp/headunit to make it punchy or soft

bargain thou :smiley:
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: CHR15 on 07 September 2005, 13:14
Thats a good link that. The 12" JBL crunch package looks a bargain, 1000w sub with 500w amp, boxed with a wiring kit!!

May have to go for that!! Is it nice and tight? Really do want a good punchy base at times, and thought I'd have to go for 10's for that?

go for a 10in mate...and look out for a brand called rainbow for spkers and sub and genesis amp
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: KingDom on 07 September 2005, 13:17
Think im gonna get a Vibe 10" ampified box. They sound awesome and take up no space, its even small enough to put into my Minis boot!!
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Ozz on 07 September 2005, 13:28
Was also just looking at this pack, can anyone tell me which of the 2 JBL packs is best value, am having trouble comparing the two!!

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4278&cadid=2b7691b9664fe16bf5e801ace43fcfa2
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: jv on 07 September 2005, 13:32
if you use CAD don't forget:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=23901.0

 :cool:
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Ozz on 07 September 2005, 13:38
Oooooh, cheers for that, had no idea!!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Len on 07 September 2005, 13:58
10" subs are a bit more punchy.

If I were you instead of looking at all these expensive car audio companies and invest in a M*x power magazine!
Yes i did say that - here's why!
In those kind of mags you will find companies that sell top equipment for far less than what you are looking at!

On the Kenwood system i have in the 405 I saved over £150 that way!
On the Golf Sony stuff I saved about £100

And Sextons.............. :evil:
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Ozz on 07 September 2005, 14:03
Have just been looking at this lot here

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/4062.html

Seems like a good deal. I might pop out to my local sextons actually and have a chat with them! See if they can do me a decent deal. Only problem with that is I wont be able to just cut and paste a link to whatever they say to get you guys opinions on it!!!! What am I meant to do, actually make a decision on my own!!  :shocked:  :grin:
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Ozz on 07 September 2005, 16:26
OK then, been to sextons and guy was most unhelpful, didnt seem too interested in me as I obviously wasnt going to be spending big money, and when asked questions usually responded with a mere "Yeh thats ok". Pretty sh1t to be honest, wish I'd just rung hium up now, made the effort to go down to the shop and it got me no where. He just pointed me towards the bottom of their range and said thats ok, but not great, for 125 quid, and the next model up is over 200 quid.

So back to searching online, can anyone just tell me what specifications I'm looking for? I'm thinking lower peak and higher RMS is better on the sub right?

Meaning this one

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/4062.html

with peak 1000w and RMS 400 powered by a nice big 800w amp would be quite a good one to go for??

Also what difference does excursion make? And what is the figure in the specs of amps given in ohms???

Any help would be much appreciated, my head feels like its about to explode!!!
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: j_s on 07 September 2005, 21:28
No offence to anyone here Oz but register and ask on talkaudio.co.uk, i've met quite a few of them and a they know their stuff  :smiley:
Personally I would go for a 12" sub - it's a good alround size and generally nowadays you can get 12/15s etc that are as fast as a 10 or a 10 that can go as low as a 15. Also if you can go to their Exchange and look for 2nd hand gear, you can pick up some seriously good gear at very cheap prices.
Build your own box or boxes, again post up what sub and it's parameters on talkaudio and someone will give you a guide of what size box to build, huge difference to how good a sub can sound if it's in the right box, if it's in the wrong box it will sound sheeite.

Look into Arc Audio subs and Rockford amps mate  :smiley:
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Lewy on 07 September 2005, 22:06
And Sextons.............. :evil:

I'll agree with that, well at least my local branch, not the on that Dizzie works at  :wink: know what I mean Gaz!

I take it that my system was a bit £Â£ then Tim? I personally would recommend a 10" JL sub, as they seem to be (in my experience) bloody awesome, and if you're a 'rock head' then a 10" will suit your ears a treat, but still allowing you to manipulate the sub under dance music conditions.

What head unit are you using, as this also can be the deciding factor? If you're using an old headunit without a sub out then it makes it difficult to change the subwoofer settings, but not entirely impossible as some kenwood amps come with a remote level control. It may be prudent to speak to Dizzie, see if he can point you in the right direction, and the best combination for your money.

Lewy
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Ozz on 07 September 2005, 22:14
Have got a pretty recent pioneer h/u, something like the deh mp7350, has a sub out and lots of controls to change the sub levels.

J_s, thanks for that, may go and check out the second hand stuff!!
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Ozz on 07 September 2005, 22:24
Oh and Lewy, I was more asking to find out what size sub you'd fitted into your wheel arch, wasnt expecting to be able to copy yours, far too dear for my student pockets!!!!  :sad:
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Lewy on 08 September 2005, 22:42
It's a JL12w6, I think it's got a 12-13" depth too.
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Ozz on 08 September 2005, 23:35
Was looking at the spec of that sub, no wonder your system sounds so good, everything looks fantastic!! And that is one gorgeous sub!! Where do you live again? And do you ever leave your boot unlocked?  :wink:  :evil:
Title: Re: Nice simple punchy system for a mk2?
Post by: Lewy on 09 September 2005, 14:45
Yeah I leave the boot unlocked, but I'm protected by one of these http://global-military.info/weapons/enf-l85.html

And a rabid rottweiler fed on gunpowder!!