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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Mattb1123 on 01 June 2014, 21:43

Title: 1.4 brake upgrade
Post by: Mattb1123 on 01 June 2014, 21:43
Hi all, ive just got myself a 1.4se

ive been offered a mk4 golf 288 set up (calipers, carriers, discs, pads) cheap by a friend and i was wondering if they would fit.

Am i right in thinking i will need to upgrade to 5x100 hubs before i can fit these, If so what else is needed other than the hubs.

Any help welcome.

Thanks Matt
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: tweed on 02 June 2014, 00:32
You dont need them mate. Only thing they will do is slow you down due to the extra unsprung weight. 

A decent pad is all you need.
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: boneybradley on 02 June 2014, 10:34
I will add yes you need to go 5 stud but also they wouldn't bolt directly on, you would either need to space the carrier to get the offset right or only use the calipers and pads and use mk3 gti carriers and discs

oh and you would also need new brake hoses as they use banjo fittings
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 02 June 2014, 18:16
Simply not worth the effort of installing the long list of parts needed unless you're planning to change the engine as well.
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: Mattb1123 on 02 June 2014, 21:39
could anyone begin to list the parts i need so i know what im up against.

I know i probably dont need them but is it a silly thing to say you want bigger brakes not just for performance  :grin:
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 02 June 2014, 21:49
Waste of time for a 1.4 current brakes are more then enough.
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: Mattb1123 on 02 June 2014, 21:52
i wanted bigger brakes for looks more than anything
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 02 June 2014, 21:54
 :grin:
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: boneybradley on 02 June 2014, 22:02
Well you can either go 5 stud mk3 set up or go for 280mm G60 spec mk2 brakes..
neither option is cheap, but the mk4 set up wont fit without lots of spacers and you still need the 5 stud conversion
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: Mattb1123 on 02 June 2014, 22:06
id prefer 5 stud option as it makes wheel choice easier too  :smiley: Thought id just ask about the mk4 set up because it was offered to be cheap by a friend.
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: boneybradley on 02 June 2014, 22:13
well the only thing worth keeping is the calipers and pads, you'll need mk3 discs and carrier's to get them fitted right (or use lots of spacers). oh and new front brake hoses with banjo fittings

along with 5 stud hubs for the front and it's best to fit the full rear axle from a 5 stud for ease
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: Mattb1123 on 02 June 2014, 22:22
Will i not need wish bones and drive shafts then ??
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: boneybradley on 02 June 2014, 22:30
Just the gti outer cv joints should do it

you don't need new wishbones although the gti spec one's are better (but you'll then needs lots more parts)
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: Mattb1123 on 02 June 2014, 22:38
Any idea on cost of a pair of CV joints from a gti ??

Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: boneybradley on 02 June 2014, 22:50
New are £40 a side (for decent quality)
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 03 June 2014, 00:22
To run the 288mm brakes youll obviously need the 5stud hubs and driveshafts, wishbones and antiroll bar are also necessary as the castor angle is different and ARB mounting point differs between the 4 & 5 stud set up.
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: tweed on 03 June 2014, 13:29
Cheaper to sell car and buy a 96 on gti
Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: itavaltalainen on 03 June 2014, 23:07
Go for the 256x20mm brakes that were fitted to 2.0 estates....

Plenty brakes for a mere 1.4..... and 4 stud..... straight forward conversion.... discs, calipers, other drums at back and new master cylinder.

Title: Re: MK4 Brake upgrade
Post by: Bellend on 03 June 2014, 23:30
Such a shame I've just chucked a set up.

Such an easy conversion don't even need a master cylinder.

Outer CVs, hubs, ball joints, calipers and carriers off a GTI and decent discs and pads and the braking is insanely awesome compared to standard, literally mine was like night and day!
Title: Re: 1.4 brake upgrade
Post by: Mattb1123 on 04 June 2014, 20:56
ok so ive now been offered a vr6 complete set up can anyone confirm that it willfit 100% and will i need drive shafts etc

Help