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General => Detailing => Topic started by: Wil on 26 May 2014, 22:59
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16 hours spent decontaminating, polishing and protecting with various products:
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Just said in another thread the red badge didn't look great in red IMO.
Way better on white.
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That was 16 hours well spent.........it's a stunner :cool:
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Awesome work mate! What products did you use?
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Wow!
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Thanks for the comments guys.
In the order used:
Valetpro Citrus Pre-wash (Diluted 8:1)
Auto Finesse Lather with lambswool mitt
Auto Finesse Iron Out
Autosmart Tardis
3M Clay
Thoroughly dried the car
At this point I removed the wheels and carried out the same as above then:
IPA (Panel Wipe)
Gtechniq C5 Wheel Armour
Back to the body:
Polished (1 Step) with Meguiars 205 using a Kestrel DAS-6 Power Plus DA Polisher
IPA (Panel Wipe)
Auto Finesse Tough Coat (3 coats)
Exhaust:
Gtechniq C5 (leftover from the wheels)
Glass:
Gtechniq G1 ClearVision Smart Glass
I may have forgotten something but I’ll update the list later if there’s anything else!
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Nice, I'm a big fan of Auto Finesse and Gtechniq stuff too, C5 is awesome :)
How do you get on with the DAS6 Pro? Thinking of getting one of these as my first machine polisher
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Good call with the C5 mate, think i'll do mine with it. :afro:
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Great looking motor, C5 is awesome stuff and I'm in love with tough coat just now especially on white motors. Good job
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Would highly recommend C5!!
The polisher was excellent - plenty if power. It's the first time I've really used a DA and I was definitely slightly scared of it at first but it doesn't take long to get used to. I wouldn't use anything less powerful on a car with hard paint like the VAGs!
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Like the sound of the C5.
Agree it doesn't take long to get used to a DA at all. When I first got mine (Meguiars G220 v2), I did a practice run on my partner's van, to get used to it and because I was a bit scared of messing up on my car. It was fine though. The newer Kestrel power plus is more powerful but the Megs DA does the job well too.
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What pad and polish combos are you guys using?
Looking at the DAS6 Pro and my thinking at the min is to go with chemical guys hexlogic pads and sonus polishes, any recommendations? Will be using to correct the moderate swirling my car has and also to remove wet sanding marks when I get round to sorting my bumper scrape.
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I'm using Megs pads (normal size and spot pads) but fancy switching to CG Hex Logic pads next. I use with Poorboys Super Swirl Remover which is available in varying cuts. I've had my car from new and only ever 2 bucket hand washed so only have reasonably minor swirls. SSR1 has been fine but you'd probably need SSR2 for anything other than light swirls.
Best to start with least abrasive pads and polish then step up pad/polish combo as required. For moderate swirling/marring then a medium cutting pad and light/medium cut polish may yield better results. Not used Sonus polish so can't comment. Many on here swear by Autoglym Super Resin Polish.
Loads of guides online such as this http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=63859
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Cheers Rebecca
Yeah I've read loads of guides and advice on detailing world etc, just time to bite the bullet and get the wallet out really. Hearing good things about the hexlogic pads so will be interesting to see what they're like. Do you find having the smaller spot pads really useful?
I can imagine your car only ever needing the lightest swirl removal seeing the pics of it and how incredibly well you maintain it. Would prob be better with pics but my car has quite a bit of swirling from the previous owners wash practices plus a couple of areas of marring where something stubborn to remove has been scrubbed so will like you say probably require something with a bit more cut. Also once i touch up the front bumper scrape and a few chips and flat the paint back there will be sanding marks to remove.
So far then my shopping list looks like this:
DAS-6 Pro DA Polisher
http://http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/prod_673.html (http://http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/prod_673.html)
Chemical Guys Orange Hex-Logic Pad
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing/chemical-guys-hexlogic-pads/chemical-guys-orange-5-5-hex-logic-pad/prod_683.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing/chemical-guys-hexlogic-pads/chemical-guys-orange-5-5-hex-logic-pad/prod_683.html)
Chemical Guys White Hex-Logic Pad
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing/chemical-guys-hexlogic-pads/chemical-guys-orange-5-5-hex-logic-pad/prod_683.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing/chemical-guys-hexlogic-pads/chemical-guys-orange-5-5-hex-logic-pad/prod_683.html)
Chemical Guys Black Hex-Logic Pad
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing/chemical-guys-hexlogic-pads/chemical-guys-black-5-5-hex-logic-pad/prod_686.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing/chemical-guys-hexlogic-pads/chemical-guys-black-5-5-hex-logic-pad/prod_686.html)
Menzerna Polish Sample Kit
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing/polish/menzerna-250ml/prod_220.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing/polish/menzerna-250ml/prod_220.html)
3M 3434 Tape
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/accessories/3m-3434-masking-tape/prod_79.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/accessories/3m-3434-masking-tape/prod_79.html)
Plus a few other bits for the collection :drool:
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Hi Dan
I do find the 4" spot pads very useful for bumpers and other fiddly contoured areas. But as normal Megs pads are 7" they are better suited for the larger panels. One of the reasons I want to switch to Hex pads is they are smaller at 5.5". I already have the correct backing plate for that size, so just need the pads. If your budget can stretch to it, I'd get spot pads too but you'll need the 3.5" backing plate as well, it all quickly adds up!
Looks like you've got all the basics covered with your choices, including the all important masking tape. If you haven't already, I would consider adding panel wipe to remove all traces of polish prior to sealing / waxing. Oh and maybe a decent sealant which you can top off with wax. Hope you've got deep pockets :grin:
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Oh right I didn't realise that the Megs pads were that much bigger.
I'm already sorted for panel wipe as I have loads left from my C5 application. Got loads of LSPs to choose from too but gonna give the Sonax Xtreme BSD that everyone's raving about a go.
After doing some figures and what not here's the final shopping list:
DAS-6 Pro DA Polisher
3M 3434 Tape
CG Orange Hex-Logic 5.5" Pad
CG Green Hex-Logic 5.5" Pad
CG White Hex-Logic 5.5" Pad
Poorboys SSR2.5
Poorboys SSR2
Poorboys SSR1
CG Pad Conditioner
Meguiars Sanding Backing Pad
Meguiars 2000 and 3000 Grit Sheets
Sonax Xtreme Brilliant Shine Detailer
Dodo Juice Born To Be Mild
Zaino Z-16 Perfect Tire
£227.71 Good job it's pay day tomorrow ;)
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Quite a list :wink:
Let us know how you find the Zaino Z-16 and Sonax BSD. I've still to find the perfect tyre dressing. I recently started using Dodo Juice Red Mist Tropical quick detailer as an in-between waxes top up. Must say I'm impressed with it. I use it on top of wax to add extra gloss. It's a wipe on, wipe off product but application takes a bit of practice as it has quite an oily consistency but it's worth it.
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Haven't had the time or weather to try much out yet. Washed the car today in between rain showers and really liked Dodo Juice Born To Be Mild and the Basics Of Bling Wash Pad. Felt nice and slick and seemed to reduce waterspotting a lot compared to the Megs Gold Class I was using before. First attempt at Zaino Z-16 looked like this:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5115/14397176546_2a9a1b1f80_h.jpg)
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2916/14420297705_c945a45e9f_h.jpg)
Really runny in consistency but applied easy enough with an Auto Finesse tyre and trim applicator. Only one layer put on for minimum gloss although instructions say you can add more layers for more shine. Personally like the new tyre look that just the one coat gives
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Really liking the look of the Zaino Dan :cool:
Think you've sold me on it on the strength of the pics alone. Let me know how long it lasts, and if you get much sling. I sometimes use Blackfire total eclipse which gives a nice finish but find it slings a lot a lot :sad:
DJ born to be mild is great shampoo, as is their supernatural shampoo. I always have both in my supply cupboard, along with quite a lot of others. Currently having a flirtation with Chemical Guys stuff - citrus wash n gloss, but bottle nearly finished and I'm quite fickle so I'll no doubt be seduced by something else when it's time to restock. Hmm, feel a bit of an online detail shop is on the cards :whistle:
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What is "sling"? Seen a few people mention it on DW but can't figure out what it is. Is it when the tyre dressing runs?
PS. Both cars in here look very nice :laugh:
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What is "sling"? Seen a few people mention it on DW but can't figure out what it is. Is it when the tyre dressing runs?
PS. Both cars in here look very nice :laugh:
Sling is when the tyre dressing splashes up the sides of the car when you're in motion. Some dressings are worse than others for this. In my experience it's usually the thinner gels that sling more, though they are easier to apply than thicker gels. It can occur even when they've been left to cure for a while and have dried. Silicone based gels take longer to dry so you get it with them as well (as opposed to water based). Using too much also increases the chances of sling. I've yet to find the tyre dressing that gives me the finish I want without slinging :undecided:
As Dan says the Zaino is quite runny, I'm interested to know if it will sling.
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Sling is when the tyre dressing splashes up the sides of the car when you're in motion. Some dressings are worse than others for this. In my experience it's usually the thinner gels that sling more, though they are easier to apply than thicker gels. It can occur even when they've been left to cure for a while and have dried. Silicone based gels take longer to dry so you get it with them as well (as opposed to water based). Using too much also increases the chances of sling. I've yet to find the tyre dressing that gives me the finish I want without slinging :undecided:
As Dan says the Zaino is quite runny, I'm interested to know if it will sling.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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Little pic update after the week and just over 300 miles:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2931/14468037825_bb86299f23_b.jpg)
Still looking good and zero sling, seems like the Zaino is good stuff :)
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Ta for the update Dan, that still looks very good. I washed mine last night and used the PB bold n bright on tyres but a day later and it doesn't look as good as yours after 300 miles! I'm gonna give the Zaino a go.
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No worries Rebecca, not been driven in the wet yet but for the first tyre dressing I've tried I'm liking it a lot :)
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No worries Rebecca, not been driven in the wet yet but for the first tyre dressing I've tried I'm liking it a lot :)
I'm also on the hunt for a new interior detailer spray. I use Poorboys natural look dressing which is brilliant but I also want a spray cleaner. You're an Auto Finesse devotee, have you used their Total Interior Cleaner? any good? I use AF hide cleanser and glass cleaner which are both good.
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I'm also on the hunt for a new interior detailer spray. I use Poorboys natural look dressing which is brilliant but I also want a spray cleaner. You're an Auto Finesse devotee, have you used their Total Interior Cleaner? any good? I use AF hide cleanser and glass cleaner which are both good.
Haha I've literally just posted in the mk6 forum about using Total :grin: yeah I like it, I've not really too much experience with anything else. On my previous car I just used really diluted G101 to clean the interior. I like the fact that Auto Finesse stuff is made in the UK, actually quite locally to me and it's well priced I think. Actually some bargains on Amazon at the min, Total is just £5 so no reason no to try it :)
Is that Crystal you're using on the glass? I could do with a new glass cleaner to try (actually I don't need one at all but any excuse :tongue:). Be interested to know how the PB Natural look compares to 303 Aerospace too
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Good to support British brands especially if they're local :smiley:
The Crystal is a good glass cleaner. Sometimes I slum it with Autoglym Fast Glass :grin:
I LOVE PB Natural Look. It's by far the best interior cleaner/dressing I've used (and there's been a fair few). You need to squirt it onto a micro fibre first, apply it, then buff off with a clean MF. Not as easy to apply as a spray but worth the effort. They say you can use a spray trigger with it but it's really too thick for that. It leaves absolutely no residue or smears and really restores a lovely oem matt finish to trim.
Like you, I don't really need another cleaner :rolleyes: but handy to have a spray for a quick once over in between proper cleans. I'm the kind of sad person that will get the cleaner out if I'm sat in the car waiting for something/someone. :embarrassed:
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What is "sling"? Seen a few people mention it on DW but can't figure out what it is. Is it when the tyre dressing runs?
PS. Both cars in here look very nice :laugh:
Here goes at trying to explain what 'sling' is in the context of tyre dressing. With some tyre dressings, if you apply too much or if you're looking for a really wet look so don't buff off the excess, once you drive the car, the wheels act a bit like a centrifuge and the excess dressing works it's way to the outer edge of the tyre and splatters onto your car's bodywork.
I've just bought some of this to use on my tyres;
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wheels-and-tyres/finishkare-108as-top-kote-tire-dressing/prod_635.html
Not really a dedicated tyre dressing as it can be used on other surfaces such as plastics and vinyl trim as well as tyres. I can't vouch for it's durability yet as I used it for the first time this week but it looks good - not too shiny.
I use one of these to apply it, to get an even coverage;
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wheels-and-tyres/trim-tyre-dressing-applicator/prod_340.html
Edit - Oops :shocked:; just seen that Booth11 explained what sling was a few replies back, so apologies for repeating, although good to know my understanding is the same as yours Booth11 !