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Title: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: master_oogwai on 15 May 2014, 21:54
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong area, but I cannot see a 'spotted' section on here.

Anyone know of this car by any chance?

Video to replace pic.

View My Video (http://tinypic.com/r/wl2m2d/8)

Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: peterdoherty on 15 May 2014, 22:02
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong area, but I cannot see a 'spotted' section on here.


About 15 posts below this one...

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259096.0
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: charlie on 16 May 2014, 00:28
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong area, but I cannot see a 'spotted' section on here.

Anyone know of this car by any chance?

Yes, they are on the wrong side of the road and have their brake lights on in this pic.

(http://i.imgur.com/ljANT3S.jpg)
guess there might be a bit of road rage
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Post by: master_oogwai on 16 May 2014, 06:56
Careless/dangerous driving. They overtook me then they overtook the car in front of me.

 
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 May 2014, 07:39
Not sure why they needed to brake rather slot in ahead of you as there's a canny gap between you and the car in front, and the car coming the other way isn't frigheningly close to them on the same side of the road as they are.
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Post by: Jimmy Filth on 16 May 2014, 07:40
Why would someone have their brake lights on at that point of an overtake??
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Post by: Mk1Macca on 16 May 2014, 11:34
Why would you try to a photo ole that while driving?
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Post by: Jimmy Filth on 16 May 2014, 11:35
Haha.  Good point, well made
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: peterdoherty on 16 May 2014, 11:35
Why would you try to a photo ole that while driving?

Thought that at 1st too but looks more like a dashcam with the time/date on it.
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Post by: p3asa on 16 May 2014, 11:35
Why would you try to a photo ole that while driving?

Dashcam maybe?
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: master_oogwai on 16 May 2014, 22:09
Why would you try to a photo ole that while driving?

Its a screenshot from the video.
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 May 2014, 22:19
Any chance of a link to the whole video, like youtube maybe?
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Post by: itavaltalainen on 16 May 2014, 22:24
I's like to see that video too... had a few people like that too.
Guess my estate looks like a pensioners car (shouldn't have de-badged it)  :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: Black oil on 17 May 2014, 09:24
Maybe the OP was drunk in charge or driving like an ar$hole,weaving all over the place and the person in the red car was making a point?
Having identified the other car and therefore a link to the owner with no more than hearsay is a bit dodgy or is that the way we are going.
Was there an accident or was anybody hurt?
Grow up and think a bit.
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 May 2014, 11:26
Maybe the OP was drunk in charge or driving like an ar$hole,weaving all over the place and the person in the red car was making a point?
Having identified the other car and therefore a link to the owner with no more than hearsay is a bit dodgy or is that the way we are going.
Was there an accident or was anybody hurt?
Grow up and think a bit.

That's why I wanted to see the video.  What we see in that picture could be the end result of the red GTI taking a reasonable gap to overtake and then camera car doesn't like it and speeds up, leaving red GTI wondering whether to cut their losses, brake and pull in, or there could have been a bit of horseplay or road rage between the 2 cars and both are playing silly buggers etc.

If the OP is unwilling to post the whole video then they themselves might have something to hide about what led up to the selected picture.
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Post by: ajmoir36 on 17 May 2014, 22:46
Maybe the adaptive cruise cutting in. Its a GTD overtaking too, twin tail pipes and the GTD wheels.
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: Exonian on 18 May 2014, 14:22
Trial by internet.
Worrying times.


Do the brake lights come on with traction control btw?
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Post by: Mr Savage on 18 May 2014, 16:53
Trial by internet.
Worrying times.


Do the brake lights come on with traction control btw?

Yes I'm pretty certain they do. As when the GTI went around the Top Gear track they flashed on the straight.
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Post by: Jimmy Filth on 18 May 2014, 17:13
On the track both the headlights and taillights flash.  The brake lights certainly come on with ACC.

The other question is what is really to be gained by this post?  If the OP really was that bothered the sensible thing would be to hand the footage over to the Police.
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Post by: AlanH on 18 May 2014, 17:23
Trial by internet.
Worrying times.
Right. Could be interpreted 50 different ways.
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Post by: mrzen on 19 May 2014, 13:55
Looks like a perfectly acceptable manoeuvre from a static pic - no double lines in the road and plenty of room up front.

Brake lights don't mean anything without explanation / video (OP?), he/she could be slowing to slot in.

I overtook a slow car the other day behind another car who initially shot off, then inexplicably slowed down right in front of the other car leaving me no room to slot in, understandably the guy we were overtaking was pissed off as I wasn't left enough room and had to pull in quite close in front of him.

I am in charge of my vehicle, so it's my fault at the end of the day, but I'd be pretty pissed off if he published my number plate on the internet for it.
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: charlie on 19 May 2014, 15:30
If someone was driving dangerously in front of me and I had pics or film I would put it up on internet trouble is these days people haven't got 2 minutes to live I suffered road rage a couple of weeks ago and it was quite severe and with my baby in the back it still makes my blood boil just thinking about it so if you drive like a dick you get what you deserve
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Post by: mrzen on 19 May 2014, 15:45
Getting angry at other drivers causes more problems than it solves. I tend to just ignore them, it's far safer and better for your health too.

The issue here is that there is no context and no offence has actually been committed as far as we know regardless of the picture.

"Driving like a dick" is subjective, the manoeuvre could have been perfectly safe as far as we know, but we don't actually know for sure, and what's going to happen if Red does show up on this forum? They will probably say - "it was perfectly safe" and will continue on their way...

I am not condoning people who do drive like dicks, or defending Red, just saying that this is pointless and one sided.
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Post by: ffrank on 19 May 2014, 16:12
I think the picture makes it quite clear what happened, the camera car pulled out of a junction and the GTD had to swerve to miss them.  :whistle:

A picture is open to interpretation. Even a video may need some explanation - could a crisp packet swept up in front of the radar cause a few road rage incidents I wonder?  :huh:

I do agree with mrzen (zen by name zen by nature?), life is too short to get worked up by other road users. Although I did use a few choice words on Sunday when numerous caravans and estate cars felt obliged to nearly force me into the hedge on the narrow Gower roads.
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Post by: matchboy on 19 May 2014, 16:14
Don't get angry, just overtake him back!  :laugh:
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Post by: adekil on 19 May 2014, 17:16
Perhaps city breaking detected that big tree on the left as he pulled in!
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: master_oogwai on 19 May 2014, 21:04
I have no problem posting the video.

View My Video (http://tinypic.com/r/wl2m2d/8)

Only posting it as a warning if anyone should see this car, be careful and stay away from it.


Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: blueheaduk on 19 May 2014, 21:07
Ooft. The first manouvre fair play. But then the one past the car in front that was dangerous. Neither looked particularly "controlled"!
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Post by: ffrank on 19 May 2014, 21:11
Yep, the second overtake firmly put the driver into the road dick category.
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Post by: falconmick on 19 May 2014, 22:02
First overtake looked possibly OK, second one was totally reckless, no view into bend, luckily no oncoming traffic.
 I would get in touch with the police and let them follow it up before he/she kills or injures an innocent third party.
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Post by: andrewparker on 19 May 2014, 22:12
I'd be taking that straight to the Police. That second manoeuvre was terribly reckless.
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Post by: Phil 117 on 20 May 2014, 01:27
All I'm saying is....


...It looks good in red.
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: matchboy on 20 May 2014, 11:42
I was sh!tting myself that was me  :laugh: - I jest of course!

The first manoeuvre was fine IMO, the second one was highly dangerous as you can clearly see the oncoming vehicle and he's overtaking on a bend.  He's a dick, and yes I would report him to the police - not only will he cause an accident driving like that but he's giving us TR GTI drivers a bad name!
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: dubber36 on 20 May 2014, 12:02
I don't think there was much wrong with either overtake. We are viewing the second overtake from much further back, so it's us that can't see around the bend, not the GTD driver. He's obviously got sufficient momentum to be able to overtake the second car, spending the minimum amount of time on the wrong side of the road and getting back in with still plenty of room before the oncoming car. If anything, I would say that he was probably traveling at speeds above the limit, but neither manoeuvre caused any of the other vehicles to deviate from their chosen course.

I used to get worked up by other drivers actions, but now I'm just happy to let them go. He overtook you and was gone. What's the problem? The further he gets away from you, the further he will be away IF he has an accident. Only then will you be impeded a little bit by having to slow and drive around the carnage. 
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: p3asa on 20 May 2014, 12:11
I'm with Dubber,
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the second manoeuvre.
Its not as if the second he came in, the oncoming car passed.
I wouldn't be driving like that but I don't think it would put me into any alarm / road rage  :laugh:
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Car?
Post by: Jimmy Filth on 20 May 2014, 12:42
I've done several driving courses in my time and one of them was specifically regarding overtaking.  A lot of 'ready position, strike position' kind of stuff.

At the end of the day the final advice was 'as long as at the end of the manoeuvre you're in front and everyone is alive it is a successful overtake.  Everything else is immaterial' :):):)
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Post by: Poached on 20 May 2014, 12:44
Not much wrong with 1st overtake, the second looked ill judged though.

Probably doesn't warrant handing footage over.
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Post by: ffrank on 20 May 2014, 13:40
It is hard to call from the distance, but the fact that he overtook at high speed next to a '40mph bends' sign, and the oncoming range rover flashed his headlights, and the testimony of our good forum member... Looks pretty dangerous to me. If he had encountered himself coming the over way, would he (/she) run out of room?

Not worth it! There's always another straight, there's only one of us.
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Post by: mrzen on 20 May 2014, 13:45
Thanks for the footage. It looks like he/she could be speeding, and the second manoeuvre was certainly more risky than I'd be comfortable with and they should not have done it.

Apart from that, they don't appear to have done anything illegal unless you have other information?

The Police won't be interested at all as the footage isn't admissible and no laws appear to have been broken.

The key thing here is that I don't believe it's right to publish the number plate for perpetuity on the internet even if you think the driver of this car is a 'dick' - what if it's not the driver's car? What if they sell it?

Personally I would remove the pic and move on.
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Post by: blueheaduk on 20 May 2014, 17:51
I don't think there was much wrong with either overtake. We are viewing the second overtake from much further back, so it's us that can't see around the bend, not the GTD driver. He's obviously got sufficient momentum to be able to overtake the second car, spending the minimum amount of time on the wrong side of the road and getting back in with still plenty of room before the oncoming car. If anything, I would say that he was probably traveling at speeds above the limit, but neither manoeuvre caused any of the other vehicles to deviate from their chosen course.

I used to get worked up by other drivers actions, but now I'm just happy to let them go. He overtook you and was gone. What's the problem? The further he gets away from you, the further he will be away IF he has an accident. Only then will you be impeded a little bit by having to slow and drive around the carnage.

I see what you're saying. However I wonder if the driver would have made those manouvres if either of those cars was a police car?