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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: JamesMac on 15 May 2014, 15:56

Title: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: JamesMac on 15 May 2014, 15:56
Does anyone know if the brake lights are supposed to be 'on' when Stop/Start is active?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: JoeGTI on 15 May 2014, 15:58
Does anyone know if the brake lights are supposed to be 'on' when Stop/Start is active?

Thanks.

Yep. When you are in auto-hold mode (when the green park-brake light is lit in your dash), then the rear brake lights stay on!
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: JamesMac on 15 May 2014, 16:00
Does anyone know if the brake lights are supposed to be 'on' when Stop/Start is active?

Thanks.

Yep. When you are in auto-hold mode (when the green park-brake light is lit in your dash), then the rear brake lights stay on!

Thanks Joe.
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: marnie on 15 May 2014, 17:22
I hope I don't have to follow one at night then! I'll have to remember to turn off auto hold to stop lighting up the driver behind.
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: GiT1984 on 15 May 2014, 17:32
The rear end LED's of a Mk7 Golf are bright enough to burn your retinas - I had the misfortune to be following the other half in my car for a few miles around town ....... and god she uses the brakes a lot!  :whistle:
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: mjh_056 on 16 May 2014, 12:23
The rear end LED's of a Mk7 Golf are bright enough to burn your retinas - I had the misfortune to be following the other half in my car for a few miles around town ....... and god she uses the brakes a lot!  :whistle:

Followed mine recently too and she has a pretty rear and actually wifes not too bad either  :wink: haha

But the MK7 does have a pretty rear and you have to love them LED Clusters and way indicators work, make it really stand out from pretty much most conventional cars let alone other Golfs.

However they are on a lot and maybe due to wife but more so due to the auto hold.

Auto Hold to me has become one of those innate not thought to things where I just stop and go and not worry about how its stopped and as that has become my natural way of driving I would not think to turn it off at all, it stays on permanently.

Think there is a case that auto hold should not have brake lights on as there is not any loss in safety.

You brake up to the point you are stationary at a junction > auto hold activates and brake lights go off, much as if putting handbrake on in a conventional set up.

Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: p3asa on 16 May 2014, 12:28
There is nothing worse sitting behind someone with their brake lights on. Especially 4x4s that are usually at eye level.
I wonder if this can this be turned off in VCDS?
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: JoeGTI on 16 May 2014, 12:30
Who cares. They're not blinding you if you are behind the wheel  :wink:

Besides, VW aren't alone in this. Audi / BMW, etc. all have really bright rear LED's these days. Better than the old school blown bulbs everywhere me thinks.
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 May 2014, 12:56
There is nothing worse sitting behind someone with their brake lights on. Especially 4x4s that are usually at eye level.
I wonder if this can this be turned off in VCDS?
Try explaining that to the insurance company when your rear ended!!
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: mjh_056 on 16 May 2014, 13:19
There is nothing worse sitting behind someone with their brake lights on. Especially 4x4s that are usually at eye level.
I wonder if this can this be turned off in VCDS?
Try explaining that to the insurance company when your rear ended!!

Think VW could set it up that when auto hold is on the brake lights turn off but would personally not mess with any safety features set up. Far too many potential consequences.
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: p3asa on 16 May 2014, 17:03
Who cares. They're not blinding you if you are behind the wheel  :wink:

Besides, VW aren't alone in this. Audi / BMW, etc. all have really bright rear LED's these days. Better than the old school blown bulbs everywhere me thinks.

I care as im a courteous driver.
There is no need for your brake lights on when you are stationary. Especially if the car behind Is stationary. It serves no purpose at all.
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: scotland67 on 16 May 2014, 17:50
I agree. I always use my handbrake at red traffic lights, but then I was a driving instructor and this was expected of candidates when taking their driving test.
It's unfortunate that the brake lights will be on on my Mk 7, which I take delivery of in 2 weeks or so, when in auto hold.
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 May 2014, 18:09
Maybe a compromise would be lights on and then when you go into stop start mode the brake lights pulse at a lower brightness.
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: adekil on 16 May 2014, 18:13
I'm just thankful people have working brake lights! I often drive behind countless amount of cars where the owners don't have working lights and haven't bothered to check or replace, its so annoying having to guess if they are braking!
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: Andy_cs on 16 May 2014, 19:07
Why not just flick the handbrake on, brake lights then go off, problem solved
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: JB GTI on 16 May 2014, 21:08
Slightly off topic but linked to the rear lights. Does anyone know if the brake lights come on when the ACC slows the car down. I hope it does otherwise the chances of being rear ended will be greatly increased  :whistle:
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: itavaltalainen on 16 May 2014, 21:23
yes they do come on when acc brakes (noticed in rear view mirror at night)
Title: Re: Stop/Start and Brake Lights
Post by: JamesMac on 16 May 2014, 21:40

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Think VW could set it up that when auto hold is on the brake lights turn off but would personally not mess with any safety features set up. Far too many potential consequences.
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It's possibly the case that safety groups in conjunction with manufacturers deem it safer to have your tail all lit up to prevent rear-enders occurring than dazzling the driver behind when stationary. Maybe a better solution would be some sort of pulsing, similar to emergency stop brake lights.

Whatever, I do like the Auto Hold in tandem with Stop/Start and ACC.
My insurance for the GTD against a '59 Scirocco GT TDI 140 manual was £39 less, so the active measures baked in to the Golf are bearing fruit at last!