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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: TheCarMadDad on 13 May 2014, 11:56
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Hi guys.
So I'm collecting my car on Monday. It's the first time I'll be collecting a brand new car, I would like some advice on what questions to ask and what to check?
I'm starting to write a list and this is what I have so far...
Questions:
Automatic auxiliary heater how to
How to bed engine in correctly
Adv phone prep
Climate comfort screen
Checks:
Iphone integrates with USB
Check for Gtd badge on key fob
Check Car mats are present
What else should I be asking/checking?
Cheers guys
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I'll piggy back this if you don't mind, thank you very much - Collecting on Thursday :laugh: First new car for me too.
I'm taking a list of my options to check off (including servicing/warranty extension paperwork if you added them.)
Going to walk around the car and check for any obvious scratches and dings, other than that I'm none the wiser either.
Run-in, I think each dealer gives different info - from my research the general opinion appears to be make sure you use varied revs and let the engine warm, and avoid red lining it :) I'm going to try and limit my motorway miles in the first 1000 (long journeys at least - and if I do have to make any I'll vary the revs by being an annoying tw*t - alternating from 60 - 70 and usng different gears :))
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Check the bodywork and wheels out for scratches, scuffs and small dings – in a dry area. Never collect a car parked outside in heavy rain – you may not see a fault that is there otherwise and once you leave the forecourt they’ll say you caused any found damage unless it is an obvious manufacturing defect.
Make sure the locking wheelnut adapter is with the spare wheel.
Make sure that any paid-for option is there – build errors and dealers forgetting to add options to the order do happen.
I think you’ve covered pretty much anything else
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I would be checking the paintwork/glass/wheels/interior trim over carefully to ensure there is no damage.
Also, check that the spec matches what you've ordered - mine was easy as there was only Discover Nav & Winter Pack to look out for.
Make sure you get all the paperwork for e.g. service plans etc. The V5 & tax disc usually get posted directly to you shortly after delivery (I think! certainly was for tax disc, almost certain the V5 came through the post as well)
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No probs ffrank! :)
I guess checking the bodywork for damage etc is a given.
Did any of you get much fuel in the car when you collected?
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I got half a tank of petrol, which was more than I was expecting as the order form said I was going to get 15 litres.
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I would avoid long motorway journeys like the plague for the first 500 miles of the car’s life. If you’re collecting from a brokered dealership 200 miles from home etc then you might need to take an A-road route for a lot of the way home. I wouldn’t have it driving at constant speed in 6th on a motorway for more than 50 miles in the first 500 and no more than 100 from 501-1000 miles.
My worst VW was a MK5 Golf (140TDI PD) that I bought from Burnley then immediately drove down to Southampton to see relatives (280 miles), hopped onto the ferry to Cherbourg with it and with about 350 miles on, it gave an amber alert for oil – it has drank a litre, taking it below the dipstick. Topped it up, drove around Cherbourg for the day, filled up with cheap booze, took it back to Southampton and onwards home to Newcastle. Another 500 miles on from Calais’ top-up, it needed another litre and drank a litre of oil every 1000 miles after that. Ongoing MPG was sh!te too for the whole time I owned it. Glazed bores I presume from it’s very easy run in.
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I know this is controversial but I will be doing some vacuum pulls as soon as I get the engine warm. Did this with my current car and it doesn't use any oil and runs like new. There again it is a Honda.
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I know this is controversial but I will be doing some vacuum pulls as soon as I get the engine warm. Did this with my current car and it doesn't use any oil and runs like new. There again it is a Honda.
I'm standing by with my Dyson, please explain... :whistle::)
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Take the car to about 50-60 mph, take foot off of throttle. Engine braking forces the piston rings against the bores.
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P.S. Make sure there is nothing behind!
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There are a few good checklists on the Mk6 section
The points won't all be relevant but you could pull the stuff that is important / crucial to yourself.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=134033.msg1204238
Checklist :
Cover plates in the front wheel arches been fitted
Wheel nut covers
Wheel centre badges
Locking wheel bolt key and tools in the boot
Ipod & usb leads
Check reg document has correct numbers of the car on chassis etc. All the options are there and working.
Then usual, paint quality, dents, marks, colour difference, wheel marks, interior marks, panel gaps.
Make sure under rear of the car is fine as its not unknown due to the 55psi storage pressure(check tyre pressures too) for it to slide and fall off the transporter.
Check the oil and water and not left it at shipping levels etc etc.
Ask for a copy of the PDI and work your own way through it.
Full Spacesaver Sparewheel in boot - (UK Spec.)
Check the condition of all the bodywork, wheels and interior, fog lights for stone chips (if its got cosmetic damage its going to be down to you once you drive away).
Marks on wheels from lashing ratchet strap from the transporter lorry.
Look very carefully for any small dents or chips. Crouch low and look along the sides of the vehicle and all around for anything out of the ordinary. If the car is outside and it has been raining tell the dealer you will be inspecting the car as soon as it is dry as you wouldn't see anything small if wet.
Check panel alignment
Check the fit of the doors (front especially) up at the top of the window towards the rear.
Have a good look at the seats and the fit of all the trim inside.
Check the transport blocks have been removed from the suspension springs
Headlight settings are on UK setting (ie headlights are not always on with ignition)
Full Alarm and Immobiliser (check by locking someone in the car, keep still for a minute, and then move arms around) (Import only)
English Manuals in leatherbound GTi holder (UK Spec)
Make sure all other documents are in the vehicle wallet.
Radio security code has been inputted and you have the number etc
Make sure there are no stray rags/cloths in the engine compartment.
Make sure they have filled in and stamped the PDI part of the service book
Bottle opener in the centre compartment (in between gear stick and armrest), dealers like to keep these.
Smoking Pack/Non smoking pack (which ever you ordered)
Check VIN numbers match between the car and documentation
Make sure you are set up for the service regime you want (Longlife or time & distance)
If there is no top up oil in a little bag in the boot ask for some
Check the bolt caps have been inserted in the holes on the wheels
Drop the windows right down, and then put them back up on auto (so push/pull knob the double click and don't hold it). Make sure the windows don't drop when they're about an inch from shut.
Key adapter for locking wheel nuts (should be in the boot, with the spare wheel)
Two keys with remote locking functions, plus plastic key tag - with serial number, for ordering replacement key if necessary
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=163067.msg1513164
A. Pre-Delivery:
1. Confirm price to pay is £[ ].
2. Make sure car is registered in [ ] name with registration no. [ ] and that registration address is correct.
3. Check that tax disc is for 12 months.
4. Check 7 day free insurance from VW or insure with Aviva.
5. Make sure car comes with a full tank of petrol.
6. Take (i) camera (ii) VW new car and accessories brochures (iii) DVD, CD and Ipod Touch.
7. Check settings for the following:
(a) No daytime running lights
(b) Door Locking: (i) doors should not automatically lock when the car is driven off, and (ii) on pressing the key fob to lock/unlock the doors, lights to flash, together with an audible warning (ie a small beeping sound)
B. Items to be Delivered with Car:
1. Two keys with remote locking functions, plus plastic key tag - with serial number, for ordering replacement key if necessary.
2. English manuals in leatherbound GTi holder (UK Spec) and all other documents are in the vehicle wallet.
3. IPod lead.
4. USB lead.
5. Bottle opener in the centre compartment (in between gearstick and armrest).
6. Locking wheel bolt key and tools in the boot.
7. If there is no top up oil in a little bag in the boot ask for some. [Not supplied]
8. VW Customer Service Items as follows:
(a) VW fixed price service plan (£250)
(b) GTI carpet mat set (PN ZGB 1K2 061 225 GA)(£70.50)
(c) Rubber floor mats - front and back (PN 1K2 061 501 A04 1 and 1K0 061 511 041)(£30.50 and 26.00)
(d) Flexible loadliner (PN 1K0 061 160)(£41.00)
(e) Headlight protectors (PN 2GB 5K0 072 101)(£41.00)
(f) Black leather CD holder (PN ZGB 414 140 608 0)(£11.00)
(g) Silver logo key ring (PN ZGB 418 149 906 0)(£4.00)
C. Matters to be Checked on Collection:
1. Check that car is 5 door, 2.0 litre TSI GTI with DSG in Reflex Silver.
2. Check registration number vs tax disc, insurance certificate and DVLA form.
3. Check VIN numbers match between the car and documentation.
4. Make sure dealer has filled in and stamped the PDI part of the service book.
5. Ask for a copy of the PDI and work your own way through it.
6. Check delivery mileage (_________ miles)
7. Check all optional extras:
(a) DSG
(b) ACC (Adaptive Chassis Control)
(c) Cruise Control
(d) DVD Navigation (take DVD, CD and Ipod Touch to test. Check radio reception and set radio stations)
(e) Reversing Camera
(f) Dynaudio with 8 speakers
(g) Multifunction Steering Wheel
(h) Leather seats
(i) Winter Pack (headlight washers, heated front seats, heated windscreen washer jets and warning light to show low windscreen washer level)
(j) Luxury Pack (electrically foldable door mirrors and reverse activated kerb view adjustment on passenger side)
D. Engine:
1. Make sure there are no stray rags/cloths in the engine compartment.
2. Make sure you are set up for the service regime you want (time & distance).
3. Check the oil, water and other fluids and that they are not left at shipping levels.
E. Interior:
1. Have a good look at the seats and the fit of all the trim inside.
F. Bodywork:
1. Look very carefully for any small dents or chips. Crouch low and look along the sides of the vehicle and all around for anything out of the ordinary. If the car is outside and it has been raining, tell the dealer you will be inspecting the car as soon as it is dry as you wouldn't see anything small if wet.
2. Check the fit of the doors (front especially) up at the top of the window towards the rear.
3. Check panel alignment.
4. Check the rear hatch top corners the covers can scratch this location.
5. Check the blanking grommits are in the front wheel arch liners stopping water getting to the foglights.
6. Check under the rear of the car too as it is known for them to slip on the transporter.
G. Lights and Electrical:
1. Check climate control.
2. Test full, half beam, indicators, fog lights, hazard warning and interior lights.
3. Ensure that headlight settings are on UK setting (ie no daytime running lights).
4. Check radio security code has been input and that code has been supplied.
5. Test alarm and immobiliser (check by locking someone in the car, keep still for a minute, and then move arms around).
6. Drop the windows right down, and then put them back up on auto (so push/pull knob the double click and don't hold it). Make sure the windows don't drop when they're about an inch from shut.
7. Check electric wing mirror operation.
H. Wheels and Tyres:
1. Check tyres for damage.
2. Check tyre pressures (2.6 bar/38 psi) once they have cooled down - they leave the factory at 55 psi (set for long term storage).
3. Check for spare wheel in boot.
4. Look for marks on wheels from lashing ratchet strap from the transporter.
5. Check the transport blocks have been removed from the suspension springs.
6. Check the bolt caps have been inserted in the holes on the wheels.
7. Check that cover plates in the front wheel arches been fitted.
8. Check that wheel centre badges have been fitted.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=260023.0
A. Things to check before pickup:
1. Confirm price (check dynaudio has been added and service plan is £199 down from £249)
2. Check main insurance and GAP insurance
3. Make sure that you get to choose the number plate
4. Make sure the old car is part ex'd and V5C is signed
5. Take CD(s) and 30-pin to lightening converter when collecting
6. Ask for stickers to be removed from rear window
B. Items to be delivered:
1. 3 door car
2. Manual
3. Deep Black Pearl paint (NOT FLAT BLACK)
4. Performance pack (GTI logo on brake calipers)
5. Two keys (make sure they have GTI engraved plastic pieces and both open and start the car)
6. English manuals
7. V5C Document and 12 Month Tax (both will be posted out later but you should get a letter to say the tax is in the post)
8. iPod lead
9. Locking wheel nut and tools in the boot
10. Service plan (ask about service intervals)
11. Full Tank of Fuel
12. Dynaudio (Sub in the spare wheel and marking on tweeters located in the pillars)
13. Set of mats
C. Quality control:
1. Check delivery mileage and reset if dealership hasn't already (hold mileage reset button for 30 seconds)
2. Check the oil, water and other fluids and that they are not left at shipping levels
3. Look very carefully for any small dents or chips. Crouch low and look along the sides of the vehicle
4. Make sure dealer has filled in and stamped the PDI part of the service book
5. Check panel alignment
6. Test full, half beam, indicators, fog lights, hazard warning and interior lights
7. Test rear lights and make sure all 4 sections are working
8. Check tyres for damage, pressures and the spare in the boot
9. Check the transport blocks have been removed from the suspension springs
10. Check the bolt caps and centre badges have been fitted on the wheels
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How does lifting off the throttle benefit the car/engine?
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Wow! That just about covers everything lol. Thanks very much
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Have a read of this and do what you think best.
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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WOW, that's a comprehensive check list! Always good to check the body work thoroughly - on my Wife last car we found a scratch on the front bumper above the number plate - looked like a streak of polish.
As for running in (and I know this can be a contentious issue) I can only go on experience, but both my Wife's car's have been driven 100 miles+ back from the dealer on the motorway and neither ever used any oil. And my last car was in Italy within three weeks of me collecting it - 2,000 miles mostly motorways through France/Switzerland/Italy using cruise control etc. 50,000 on the clock now, never had to top the oil up even after a recent track day.
I keep it below 4000rpm for the first 500 miles and then gradually increase the revs up too 1,000 miles. Be gentle on the brakes/tyres/gearbox/clutch to give everything a chance to bed in. I can remember the 'old' days when cars used running in oil for the first 1,000 miles.
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Have a read of this and do what you think best.
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
I'm no expert - but from the production line footage I've watched don't the car manufacturers tend to run each car up through the rev range on a set of rollers before they leave the factory?
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Another question... should the GTD come with the metallic bits on the key fob as standard?
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Another question... should the GTD come with the metallic bits on the key fob as standard?
Yes. They should be fitted at PDI by the dealership.
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And if not I guess I can politely ask them to be fitted? From what I've read on here a lot of dealers forget to fit them...
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Engine braking forces the piston rings against the bores.
When the throttle is open the combustion gases push against the inside diameter of the piston ring, forcing it to expand radially onto the liner bore. On the overrun (engine braking) when the fuel is cut there is no combustion so the radial load is much lower, there is only the static ring tension plus the gas load due to pumping.
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Is there a bottle opener in the mk7 then?? I don't seem to have one, photo somebody please :-) thanks
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No, sadly not. The list was copied from the mk5/6 forum. The bottle opener was a lovely touch, as was the exclusive owners manual folder with gti badge and red stripe. VW are much more focused on profit now. Shame.
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Does anyone know if it's possible to feel for any transport blocks by squeezing the shock absorber gaiters with the car on the ground please?
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I'm also interested in this marnie. Seen a lot on here about the pucks but how can you check if they've been left in? Is it just a case of looking under the arches?
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You'll have to jack up the front wheels 1 at a time so that the wheel is hanging low on the suspension and there's a decent gap between the wheel top and the wheel arch. Then feel around the rubber gaiters of the shock. The bump stops are conical and don't move from the top of the suspension mount, the pucks (if there are any) are cylindrical (around an inch thick) and can slide up and down the suspension strut.
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Sorry to drag this thread up again, but as I am sure there are going to be people picking up new cars in the next week I didn't want to start a new one.
I am picking mine up on Wednesday, and just wanted to clarify what cables to expect with the Nav Pro?
I have read about getting two, a lightning one and a USB. Is this right?
The car is also keyless, do you get the GTD key fobs, or anything similar?
Are there any other little touches or things that are not in the brochures?
Thanks in advance.
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You don't get any cables with the pro nav, it has a usb socket in the cubby so you can connect any devices with their own cables.
Although i did get two mdi cables with mine but nowhere to stick em?? ??? ;D
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The car is also keyless, do you get the GTD key fobs, or anything similar?
You should still get the fobs even with keyless. This is one of the most missed things by dealers I think.
Although i did get two mdi cables with mine but nowhere to stick em?? ??? ;D
Stick em on eBay! :tongue:
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Thanks for the replies.
Never knew about the cables.
Got my music SD card sorted, and it plays in An Rns510, so hopefully no problems in the new car.
Will check the keys also..
Anything else?
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Anyone know if the mdi port can be swapped out for a USB one?
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Anyone know if the mdi port can be swapped out for a USB one?
You could just plug an MDI>USB female lead into it as I have done. The USB lead came with my Scirocco, so VW do make them, if you can't find a cheap one on ebay. You could even look for an MDI to mini-USB for charging phones etc while on the move.
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Hi
When i collect my GTD in September 2013 spoke to the manager at Lancaster VW concerning the media to usb lead he produced a lead from his office draw and said have that on us n/c-service with a smile.
Still loving my GTD no faults to date drives like a dream getting at least 100 smiles per hour :smiley:
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Ok so am collecting my new GTD later today and so far as far as I can tell, the only things that should come with the car are:
MDI to Lightning cable
MDI to USB cable
SD card (not the one for DNS; spare one for media ?)
GTD bezels for keys
Set of mats (carpet; rubber-mats are extra ?)
Some top-up oil (?)
First-aid kit/warning-triangle & reflective-vest (or is this an optional-extra ?)
Can anyone else think of anything I have forgotten ? I've made-up a comprehensive checklist for checking over the car as well, but handover time is just at time of closing and it's the salesman's day-off, so am sure he'll be keen to not hang around too long !
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Ok so am collecting my new GTD later today and so far as far as I can tell, the only things that should come with the car are:
MDI to Lightning cable
MDI to USB cable
SD card (not the one for DNS; spare one for media ?)
GTD bezels for keys
Set of mats (carpet; rubber-mats are extra ?)
Some top-up oil (?)
First-aid kit/warning-triangle & reflective-vest (or is this an optional-extra ?)
Can anyone else think of anything I have forgotten ? I've made-up a comprehensive checklist for checking over the car as well, but handover time is just at time of closing and it's the salesman's day-off, so am sure he'll be keen to not hang around too long !
They won't give you an SD card, only one for the sat nav. You won't get a lightning cable either (I assume you mean the lightning adapter for an iPhone?) - in fact you'll be lucky to get a lead at all for your iPhone - but you can pick up a little USB one that fits perfectly off Amazon for £3.99 :smiley:
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Ok so am collecting my new GTD later today and so far as far as I can tell, the only things that should come with the car are:
MDI to Lightning cable
MDI to USB cable
SD card (not the one for DNS; spare one for media ?)
GTD bezels for keys
Set of mats (carpet; rubber-mats are extra ?)
Some top-up oil (?)
First-aid kit/warning-triangle & reflective-vest (or is this an optional-extra ?)
Can anyone else think of anything I have forgotten ? I've made-up a comprehensive checklist for checking over the car as well, but handover time is just at time of closing and it's the salesman's day-off, so am sure he'll be keen to not hang around too long !
Rubber mats will cost you extra - carpet mats are standard, getting some "free" top up oil will depend on the dealer as some do and some don't. Never got safety kit with any of 7 new. VWs (I think Audi give out warning triangle and high via jacket - they used to). Non-lightning apple lead given, no USB lead as standard (they are available, not standard equipment with the car).
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Ok so am collecting my new GTD later today and so far as far as I can tell, the only things that should come with the car are:
MDI to Lightning cable
MDI to USB cable
SD card (not the one for DNS; spare one for media ?)
GTD bezels for keys
Set of mats (carpet; rubber-mats are extra ?)
Some top-up oil (?)
First-aid kit/warning-triangle & reflective-vest (or is this an optional-extra ?)
Can anyone else think of anything I have forgotten ? I've made-up a comprehensive checklist for checking over the car as well, but handover time is just at time of closing and it's the salesman's day-off, so am sure he'll be keen to not hang around too long !
Rubber mats will cost you extra - carpet mats are standard, getting some "free" top up oil will depend on the dealer as some do and some don't. Never got safety kit with any of 7 new. VWs (I think Audi give out warning triangle and high via jacket - they used to). Non-lightning apple lead given, no USB lead as standard (they are available, not standard equipment with the car).
Thats handy to know as pick mine up in November. With the discount I am getting dont really expect too many freebies. Have been told I will get a full tank a fuel, is that standard practice with new cars ?
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Update....pleasantly surprised in all honesty, low-key affair in car-park which I said was fine with me.
Car came with two leads MDI to iPod and MDI to Lightning (iPhone 5), was told by one salesman it would only come with £20 of fuel, came with a full-tank though, tidy :-)
Correct about the safety-kit though (none as standard but you can buy them for around £25) and going back to pick-up free top-up oil over the weekend (service-department closed at time of handover).
New wheels going on tomorrow, loving it already !
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When I had mine delivered I got the MDI to lightning and MDI to old Iphone cables and 3/4 fuel tank. Carpet mats as standard as well, but I've purchased a set of rubber mats which protect the interior better especially with the cr***y UK weather. No first aid or warning triangle either, I have purchased it afterwards. SD card comes only with the Navigation maps. I have purchased a 32 GB SD from Amazon for the Media.
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New wheels going on tomorrow, loving it already !
Nice, what are you putting on? Pictures are compulsory :laugh:
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Pic from handover:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/big-guy/photo10_zpsf5067a45.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/big-guy/media/photo10_zpsf5067a45.jpg.html)
Will post-up more pics tomorrow and start a proper thread maybe when wheels are fitted , no clues :-)
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I'm having a lease GTD delivered to me next week and suspect I won't have ages to check it over. :smiley:
Apart from the obvious bodywork / alloy / tyre conditions etc. I currently have a list as follows to check all is present and correct :
- Two keys with GTD bezels
- Lightning cable
- Old IPhone cable
- SD card with Satnav Map on
- Set of 4 carpet mats
- Spare Spacesaver steel wheel in boot.
- Locking Wheel Nut Key in boot plus jack / toolkit etc and check the key fits the nuts.
- Full set of manuals inc. Sat Nav manual and stamped PDI service book in service wallet.
Can anyone correct this or add to it please ? The car should have the latest MY16 additions - MIB2, keyless and winterpack.
Cheers
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You won't get an old iPhone cable and doubt you'll get a lightening cable either. It's usb now instead of mdi.
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Ok thanks for that.
Can anyone confirm exactly what leads should come with the latest MIB2 system ?
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Ok thanks for that.
Can anyone confirm exactly what leads should come with the latest MIB2 system ?
None as its use your own USB
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You can buy 10cm leads on line which fit better with a phone or whatever you're using in the mini glovebox (behind the gearstick).
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Ok thanks for that.
Can anyone confirm exactly what leads should come with the latest MIB2 system ?
None as its use your own USB
Thanks for confirming :smiley: ... that will save me some embarrassment when inspecting the car :wink: