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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Sootchucker on 28 April 2014, 16:47
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I know this has sort of been discussed before, but does anyone else think the paintwork on my MK7 really susceptible to marks, scratches and chips ?
The GTD is the current VW in a line of 5 we have had on the trot, and I have to say in the 7 months of ownership I have had more stone chips and light scratches on it than I've ever had on any of the other cars. My previous to this Scirocco after nearly 3 years looked better than my GTD does at 7 months.
It seem I only have to look at it and it marks. I currently have 3 fairly long scratches - on on the boot lid above the GTD logo, one of the drivers door extending into the passengers door and one on the front nearside wing coming from the A-pillar downwards, as well as a number of stone chips on the front bumper, one of the drivers side mirror and one on the offside rear door.
They are all quite light and I'm sure when I machine polish the car later on this spring they will come out, but bloody hell, what a PITA ! I wash my car properly, (lambswool mit, 2 bucket method, and dry with ultra plush drying towels by patting), so I don't think my car wash technique is responsible for all the marks (maybe just the general cobwebbing etc).
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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The red paint layer is woefully thin, it must have excellent opacity to be so red and yet so thin. My dad has a stone chip that's quite deep (down to the primer), and it would appear that his (DBP) black paint layer is twice as thick as my red layer.
I had a bad chip on my bonnet, near the apex of the side creases, and painted it up so it doesn't look bad. A smart repairer could have made it look a little better, but not much. Needs a smidge of lacquer, giving the red time to harden properly.
Did you C2V3 your car? Perhaps your boot scratch is a scratch in the coating. I caused a scratch of my own in the C2V3 layer (jeans stud when washing the car, I think), and it palished out easy enough by hand and then reapplied the C2V3.
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Its really thin on the bonnet edge! I had a chip right down to the primer at the weekend which is now filled and lacquered but agree the paint is really thin.
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I have just found 3 new chips since my last trip. One is on the roof. I think I know when this one happened, it was a Range Rover over taking in front of me, staying wide when there was no need to, going through chevrons throwing a bloody great stone back at my car which made an almighty bang when it hit. The language was blue :sad:
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Yes I had my 1st today and it only felt like a stone lightly hit it, but when I got out I have a mark right at the top of the bonnet. The paint on my mk6 seemed miles better.
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Yes My tornado red GTI has got a big chip on the bonnet. It was only two weeks old. Absolutely gutted. Dont know when it happened. Never even heard it hit. Have since painted over it (badly). Paranoid now! Dodging and weaving every time another vehicle comes anywhere near me. Paint quality seems very poor. Dissapointing and spoils an otherwise brilliant car.
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Apart from my mishap recently on the motorway I've been relatively lucky up to this point. I've had a few tiny stone chips on the bonnet but most of the chips have happened on the front bumper which is to be expected, nothing absolutely terrible though.
I have to say i'm so glad I chose pure white as I was really contemplating changing my mind having always had black cars. Compared to black its so much easier to keep it looking good and it hides the swirls and chips so much better. The tar spots are the only real bugger but a little patience and they soon come off.
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Paint problems on the MK7 are well known and discussed on various forums. If everyone who is having problems writes/phones/emails VW and makes them aware, perhaps VW might listen and look at improving things???
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It's not that the paint is soft - quite the opposite. The two pack paints of yesteryear were soft enough for some stones to just bounce off .... Modern, water based paints go very hard (read brittle) when dry and hence the chipping is worse.
I can't comment on the TR specifically, in terms of thickness, but if you're comparing it to a metallic paint, then these are generally thicker to get the depth of reflection and are, of course, covered in lacquer.
I've just found my first, nasty chip, on the flat part of the bonnets top crease just before the windscreen on the right hand side.... :(
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I think this is a real weakness for vw, my mk6 CW had the same with 'thin' patches. I never challenged it as it wasn't that apparent on a white car. I'd contest it and see how you go but be prepared for a car that looks like a harlequin polo if they start painting panels.
Which is worse, a light patch that probably you'd only notice or a while panel that looks different from every angle?
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Not noticed any scratches or marks at all on the pure white.
Not to say there are none just that when did last wash nothing jumped out.
Went for white as I was eventually worn down by the swirls and fine scratches on my last two black cars and white is proving a great choice :smiley:
However what are seen is tar spots on closer inspection, so something going to address on next clean. And think we all aware now that aerodynamics of car make the tailgate an absolute trap for dirt!
Based on the early paint advice on forum one of first things most did was protect the car and we each have own preference but the Collonite I used still beads now and quick bucket washes have been easy through winter.
Think based on this thread that advice stands strong on protecting the paint as early as can will save pain later.
Will do the full wash polish and reprotect for Spring again
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Even my DBP is peppered with stone chips. Seems everyone that I hear ping against the car results in a white dot :(
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Have plenty of stone chips on my CSG as well. On the bonnet and front bumper. :sad:
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No-one can avoid them, but for most of the pearl an metallics, hopefully a thicker pigment layer will allow to just worry about the lacquer layer in most cases.
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On the. Omits to work today some b@stard clipped my wing mirror. An anxious 30 minutes later I get out to inspect....not the worst. Two marks, one about and inch long and the other two. What's the best way about fixing this? I don't know if it's just scuffed and wd40 will take it out. And advice welcome
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On the. Omits to work to. What's the best way about fixing this?. Does it look white on the scuff? Did you use a sealant? If so it could be just a lacquer or sealant scuff that should polish out with net or similar then reapply sealant.....and break the culprits legs. :whistle:
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On the. Omits to work to. What's the best way about fixing this?. Does it look white on the scuff? Did you use a sealant? If so it could be just a lacquer or sealant scuff that should polish out with net or similar then reapply sealant.....and break the culprits legs. :whistle:
It was a dozey woman, who let her out the kitchen! Ha joke. She was hammering as well. My mate likes to detail so hes going to come along saturday with his kit and a wee polishing machine to see if he can get rid off some tiny wee scratches and this mark. Feels smooth to touch and its not chipped the paint away i believe so hope it polishes off. Heres hoping
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This is another price you have to pay for having an environmentally friendly car. Less paint means less weight, also less VOCs when painting. Hey presto, our car is greener than yours. No top coat under the bonnet or in the boot, but our car is greener than yours. Screw the customer, constructors only want the car to last 7 years or they'll never reach their targets. I've worked in paint and warranty and see some Real nightmares. And don't even mention bird crap on your paintwork!.
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I have just covered 3k and my car is polished weekly and I have started to notice a few stone chips, more than any other Golf I have owned at this mileage. :sick:
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If only wax / polish would save us from the inevitable. Its a sad state of the way forward unfortunately.
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I'm tempted to complain to VW about the state of my front bumper. Stone chips everywhere and the bottom splitter actually feels like sand paper its got so many chips.
Surely thats not normal? I've never had a car have chips like this, if it is like that after 3.5k miles what is it going to be like after 30k miles?!
J
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That's mad. I have 6,500 miles up and there isn't a single chip on the bumper or bonnet. I did get a small one on the driver's door though flicked up by an oncoming car.
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I must say my MK7 is 6 weeks old with 2.5k miles and I have a handful of stone chips on my front bonnet.
Looks like if the stone hits and bounces around it leaves 2-3 chips next to each other.
The paint on my Carbon Grey is ultra soft and it's driving me crazy.
Full bonnet resprays will be required at 20k or so and this fact alone will stop be buying another one because my OCD drives me crazy.
Did anyone take out dent protection? What colour would show up the least blemishes from slight chips and marks?
My MK6 GT TDI was candy white and that showed everything.
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The paint on my Carbon Grey is ultra soft and it's driving me crazy.
Maka344, as GiT1984 posted earlier in this thread (see below), VW paint is actually hard rather than soft. Many of the professional detailers on the various detailing sites have commented on this when they've detailed VW cars.
I may have been fortunate with my Carbon Grey mk6 GTD, but in 3+ years and 22k miles - mostly on 'A' roads - I have very few stone chips; far fewer than I had on my DBP mk4 and mk5 (also DBP), and I've sorted them with my Chipex stone chip repair kit as soon as they appeared.
Maybe there have been changes to the paint formulation for the mk7 that means it's more environmentally friendly, but as a consequence, it's become more susceptible to stone chips?
It's not that the paint is soft - quite the opposite. The two pack paints of yesteryear were soft enough for some stones to just bounce off .... Modern, water based paints go very hard (read brittle) when dry and hence the chipping is worse
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Comparing my old tornado red mk5 against my new mk7 tornado red golf, I have realised not only is the paint softer (ie stone chip ) but after a good 3 hour detail it will not pop like my old mk5.
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I miraculously haven't had any visible stone chips since I got the car (4,200km now) as I tend to drive at least 6 meters behind any car in front of me. Surprised to read all the troubles other people are having on here but then this happened to me.
(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y441/CezGTI/IMG_5512_zps353dac6f.jpg)
I'm not even sure what to make of this or what caused it. I'm assuming it's a really big stone chip but some said that it's been keyed. The paint completely came off and when I saw it, there was a very thin layer of paint hanging loose and as soon as I swiped across it, it peeled off even further. Should I take it to the dealer or fix this issue on my own? I'm not sure if the warranty covers it or not (I have the 2 year extension if that makes any difference). Also, I'm thinking of plastidipping the mirrors so should I fix it before I do so or will it not show?
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It will show if you plastidip over it unless youre an expert that can build up the layers right, suggest you just wrap instead
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Looking at a new 'R'. The roads are dreadful in the Southwest and my current ST is starting to have a bad case of acne not helped by the fact Ford in their wisdom used white under dark colours and black undefined light colours. Always had good experiences with German paintwork hence the move to VW but then I read this thread :sad:
Is there a recommended colour from the 'R' range that would be better or show them up less? I wax looking at oryx what is the under colour of this? Is BMW / Audi paintwork any better?
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Maybe we need a poll to confirm, but solid colours seem to suffer far more from deep chips. Pearl and metallic paints are by nature less opaque than solid colours, so it would seem that VW in their infinite wisdom put less paint on the solid colours than they do on the metallics. My dad's car has a deeper chip than any of mine taht have fot to the primer and his is still in the colour zone.
Poll to confirm how many "primer deep" chips we've had vs paint colour? I don't know how to set one up.
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Problem with a poll is that it would need to reflect journey types, ive stopped doing motorways every day and my stonechips are much better than my Leon as a result, but that's not a difference between metallic black and solid white, just the route to work.
Also, most stonechips are usually from being an inch off a type r's rear bumper :smiley: so if you drive like a bellend you're going to have more than if you bought your golf for leisurely Sunday driving only.
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Not necessarily. I've just come back from Scotland and one of the roads was a temporary stone/shale type. No other cars on the road and it was painful just hearing them being flicked up onto the side of the car. You can drive carefully and still get stone chips.
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yes but i bet your front bumper is fine and thats just an advert for a decent set of mudflaps :smiley: