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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: dubber36 on 28 April 2014, 14:48
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I've just fitted one into my Golf, but not coded it yet. Every works perfectly except for it talking to the DIS, but the coding will sort that, however...
1. When turning it on after it has been left for a while, I get a screen full of "system starting" which seems to take for ages. Is this normal?
2. When selecting reverse, the screen goes blank except for a small message at the bottom of the screen saying "Look, safe to move?" The same message that you get with a camera or parking sensors. I have neither.
Are these things that will be sorted with the correct coding, or are there settings in the radios set up menu that I can change? It's an LED version with the * button, if that makes a difference.
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How long are you talking for it to boot up?
Is that to access the music or just to be able to access the RNS510.
My RNS used to takes ages to access the music on SD card but that was due to my file structure though.
It was always ready if say I was reversing out the drive as the rear view picture would come on straight away.
I reckon your RNS had been coded for a RVC hence it giving the message. Coding should sort it out and the DIS
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It takes what seems like an age to boot up. Not the best answer I know, I'll time it later. It just seems a lot longer than the RCD510 that was in before. The RNS315 in my Passat fires up straight away.
As soon as the "Welcome to Volkswagen" screen has gone, music plays from whatever source was last playing, but I still get the blank red/orange screen saying "System Starting"
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If the car didn't have a rvc or parking sensors before then nothing will change after fitting an RNS. Its the car that carries the coding for rvc and sensors not the RNS. The RNS needs coded properly before it will work but it shouldn't take ages to boot up. Do you know what software and maps it's running?
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Mine does the system starting thing if it's been off for a while. It's never been coded when the lights were installed i stuck this in to save time. Here's a top tip given to me and i should be killed before i let this little secret out! when buying a car make sure it has all the toys! :grin:
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Here's a top tip given to me and i should be killed before i let this little secret out! when buying a car make sure it has all the toys! :grin:
I came to that conclusion soon after buying my Passat last year. I bought a DSG Sport with no options on at all. They come fairly well equipped, but I really wanted xenons, camera and parking sensors, but there were very few year old cars around with that spec. I bought a standard car because it was the right money with a view to retro fitting the extras with the money saved, but now it has come down to it, I can't bring myself to part with the money.
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I only got the sat nav because well errr the screen looks good when you have it on the nav. Cant see what i'm poking on the screen blind as a bat.Got a oem manual off ebay cant be bothered to read the bloody thing! So that was i think £500 well spent.
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It'll be good when it works properly after being coded. Persevere and you'll reap the rewards.
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The RNS in my MK6 used to be quite slow to boot up at times too. I'd see that orange screen and the "system starting" for a couple of minutes some days. It was quite random though, some days it started up instantly, other days I got the slow boot. No real pattern to it.
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The RNS in my MK6 used to be quite slow to boot up at times too. I'd see that orange screen and the "system starting" for a couple of minutes some days. It was quite random though, some days it started up instantly, other days I got the slow boot. No real pattern to it.
Was yours from the factory, or retro fitted?
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The RNS in my MK6 used to be quite slow to boot up at times too. I'd see that orange screen and the "system starting" for a couple of minutes some days. It was quite random though, some days it started up instantly, other days I got the slow boot. No real pattern to it.
Was yours from the factory, or retro fitted?
Retro fitted!
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I've still not got this fully sorted. I've managed to get rid of the rear camera message and somehow changed the colour scheme from red to grey (I don't mind that), but I can't for the life of me get the Nav directions up on the MFD.
Can anyone help please? Screen shots would be brilliant.
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Anybody?
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Hopefully I will be retrofitting a RNS510 tomorrow I have VCDS and might come up against a similar problem. If I do I will let you know.
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Google is my friend.
it would seem that there is a BAP setting in the Navi 37 Control Module. If its a mk6 I believe its supposed to be enabled if its a mk5 I believe its supposed to be disabled. Might be byte 7 bit 7. It would seem most people call it a MFD rather than a DIS when googling the issue.
Rumour has it the RNS510 needs a reboot after any coding change as well.
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Thank you. It will be interesting to see what you find out when you do yours.
There is a message on the VCDS screen suggesting that the RNS needs a reeboot by pressing the <> and Eject buttons, but I didn't do it when I turned the camera off and that worked ok.
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Provided it turns up in the mail.
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dubber l'm not sure but to get the nav directions up in the mfd display i think you have to have a factory fitted compass. This is located i think at the top of your rear hatch. Dont quote me on that tho,
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http://www.vwgolf.net.au/archive/index.php/t-3127.html Here's maybe some info on that point.
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I think for nav on the MFD you need the NAV option ticked in the CANBUS module.
(http://dataton.net/vw/VAGscreenshot/can_gateway-Byte3.png)
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Mike, you are a gent.
Everything is working just as it should now. :cool:
Good luck with yours later ajmoir.
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Mike, you are a gent.
Everything is working just as it should now. :cool:
Good luck with yours later ajmoir.
Thanks so it was tick Navigation in the gateway?
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so it was tick Navigation in the gateway?
Yes, as simple as that.
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Thanks
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Do you have Bluetooth? if you do did you have to do anything to the wires for the mic for the RNS510 to do voice commands and the Bluetooth voice commands?
Come on Parcel Force where are you!!
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Mike, you are a gent.
Everything is working just as it should now. :cool:
Good luck with yours later ajmoir.
No problem dubber36, glad you got it working, I think that also brings up the compass bearing on the top left of the MFD if it wasn't there already.
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Mike, Yes, the compass is enabled as well.
Ajmoir, I do have retro fitted Bluetooth and that still works just as it did with the RCD510. I think the mic needs to be wired differently if you have voice control.
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Mike, Yes, the compass is enabled as well.
Ajmoir, I do have retro fitted Bluetooth and that still works just as it did with the RCD510. I think the mic needs to be wired differently if you have voice control.
Yeah spent a while figuring that out. I needed to change the wiring for the Bluetooth, the mic was connected directly to the Bluetooth but fortunately the clever people that sold me the Bluetooth kit had made it idiot proof and all I had to do was connect the mic to the radio and connect the Bluetooth to the radio and code the telephone for voice inactive this then drives the steering wheel button through the RNS510 for voice commands. My existing DAB aerial also seemed to work with the DAB in the RNS510 too. Now I just need to figure out how this Nav thing works.
Thanks peeps this has been interesting.
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UK cars don't get the compass module in the roof lining it's just north america. When you retro fit the rns you need to code it in 37 which you chaps have worked out. Sometimes you also need to tick or untick the bap protocol to get the nav function to appear in the MFD (dis). If you've already got a dab rcd then it's a doddle retro fitting a new RNS dab. It's always best to do a reset after any coding changes when fitting the RNS.
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I have the bap operation turned on and get the compass and nav directions on dis/mfd.
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Yeah that's good. Sometimes though it needs unticking and then ticking again for it to work properly.
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hi everyone, hope it's ok to jump in here... am looking to buying an mk6 (60 plate), which has a 'standard' radio/display unit fitted (looks like the rns510 but doesn't have satnav).
I'd like to upgrade it to something with satnav - is the rns510 my only choice, or recommended choice? Having consulted my local VW garage, they recommended a Kenwood model?
I've seen videos/guides that the retrofit is pretty straightforward - but am I right in thinking it will still need to go to a dealer/garage to be coded? Is that something which VW garages are happy to do, or will only a few selected independent places do it?
sorry for any basic questions, am reading up on this at the moment - most threads I've found online are from a few years ago, so am just after some up-to-date info :)
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hi everyone, hope it's ok to jump in here... am looking to buying an mk6 (60 plate), which has a 'standard' radio/display unit fitted (looks like the rns510 but doesn't have satnav).
I'd like to upgrade it to something with satnav - is the rns510 my only choice, or recommended choice? Having consulted my local VW garage, they recommended a Kenwood model?
I've seen videos/guides that the retrofit is pretty straightforward - but am I right in thinking it will still need to go to a dealer/garage to be coded? Is that something which VW garages are happy to do, or will only a few selected independent places do it?
sorry for any basic questions, am reading up on this at the moment - most threads I've found online are from a few years ago, so am just after some up-to-date info :)
It will most likely be the RCD510 does it have a DAB button on the top right? if it does then you could get a RNS510 with DAB much more expensive than the normal RNS510. You will need it coding for the RNS510 to be fully integrated to the car i.e. the Navigation to appear on the MFD/DIS between the speedo and rev counter. Otherwise though it seemed that the unit I had seemed work ok even though it wasn't codded in properly yet. Does the car you are interested in have Bluetooth too as that is a more coding if you want voice control from the steering wheel on the RNS510 too.
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It will most likely be the RCD510 does it have a DAB button on the top right? if it does then you could get a RNS510 with DAB much more expensive than the normal RNS510. You will need it coding for the RNS510 to be fully integrated to the car i.e. the Navigation to appear on the MFD/DIS between the speedo and rev counter. Otherwise though it seemed that the unit I had seemed work ok even though it wasn't codded in properly yet. Does the car you are interested in have Bluetooth too as that is a more coding if you want voice control from the steering wheel on the RNS510 too.
thanks for the info :)
i'm actually not too fussed about having bluetooth/voice control - i have those in my current car and never use them (just personal choice, I don't like taking calls while driving and have never really benefitted from voice control).
but i'll find out if the current unit has a DAB button...
I think I'm running into the seemingly common issue of the local VW garage not being completely up to speed... the only option they gave was to install a Kenwood system (don't have the model# to hand) and it would be just over £1k fitted :huh:
might have to find a decent local independent place...
(I also want to ask about retrofitting cruise control, but will find another thread for that :smiley:)
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Dealer fit cruise control should be about 180 quid. The dealer will be pushing the Kenwood as vw have a deal to use them for aftermarket fitting. The one I saw in the dealer was s4it and the rns is much easier to use. User interface on the Kenwood was very poor.
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Thanks mcmaddy! I do the look of the OEM unit, so good to know about the Kenwood deal. I'll find out today which unit is currently installed...
(I promise to ask about CC in a different thread, but very quickly, do I understand correctly that it depends on the month of manufacture if CC fitting is possible or not? The vw garage just flatly said it's not possible)
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As others have said, the dealers will try to push you towards the Kenwood. However it is a ridiculous amount of money from them. You can pick up a second hand RNS510 for half that amount. It will do everything you need it to and look like it should be there. Even if you don't get a DAB model, there are hideaway DAB tuners that you can hook up to them.
Where abouts are you? I'm sure there will be members on here that could help you with fitting and coding. It really is a straightforward job to do. I managed it (eventually) so it can't be that hard.
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Thanks dubber... I think the fitting looks do-able, I just don't have the kit to do the coding. So thought it might make sense for the whole job to be done in the garage.
Once I've found out what unit is currently installed, I'll update the thread and see if dab is do-able/worthwhile :smiley:
(Have joined in another thread for the CC chat!)
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Cruise control is possible but sons like your dealer isn't interested. Try a different dealer.
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It will most likely be the RCD510 does it have a DAB button on the top right? if it does then you could get a RNS510 with DAB much more expensive than the normal RNS510. You will need it coding for the RNS510 to be fully integrated to the car i.e. the Navigation to appear on the MFD/DIS between the speedo and rev counter. Otherwise though it seemed that the unit I had seemed work ok even though it wasn't codded in properly yet. Does the car you are interested in have Bluetooth too as that is a more coding if you want voice control from the steering wheel on the RNS510 too.
it doesn't have the DAB in the top right... it would be nice to have DAB, but if it's considerably more then I'm not too fussed. so if the current unit has no DAB/no satnav, that'll be the RCD510?
would anyone be able be kind enough to let me know which OEM units are available to me?
presumably the RNS510 with/without DAB?
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I'm pretty sure this describes pretty much all variants of the RNS510 http://www.my-gti.com/3983/volkswagen-rns-510-hardware-and-software-firmware-versions (http://www.my-gti.com/3983/volkswagen-rns-510-hardware-and-software-firmware-versions)