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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Ian.C on 24 April 2014, 11:18

Title: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: Ian.C on 24 April 2014, 11:18
HI there

Its looking like the APR map for the EA888 gen 3 is close to release. (Ive been told in the next 2 months) Apparently APR have "cracked" the OBD protection so tuning is done without the need to remove the ECU or the need to open the ECU.....

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151963563830356&set=vb.75900685355&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151963563830356&set=vb.75900685355&type=2&theater)

Looks promising....
Ian
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: Mr Savage on 24 April 2014, 13:21
Excellent!! They got the Skoda Fabia VRS from 216bhp to 300bhp with a stage 1! I think we can expect around 320bhp from a stage 1 on the GTI :)

Didn't they say the VW encryption was impossible to crack? Go APR! :D
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: GrahamFR on 24 April 2014, 14:32
http://www.goapr.com/news/2014/03/28/apr-is-pleased-to-present-fastivus-2014/

released at fastivus i think
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: Mr Savage on 27 April 2014, 12:10
APR have confirmed that their Stage 1 "real" remap is pushing over 300bhp with no hardware changes :)
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: Tornado8 on 27 April 2014, 14:41
I also understand the Revo map is imminent but I don't know the figures sorry!
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: Ian.C on 02 May 2014, 20:34
APR have confirmed they can "port flash" the MK7.......Result...

Ian
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: monsta on 16 May 2014, 14:26
From Facebook;

MK7 Golf GTI and Octavia VRS Owners, we have a treat for you soon! APR, LLC. MK7 GTI Software is nearly ready for release, and just look at those gains!!

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10255016_1481996195364231_7121247779547423176_n.jpg)
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: GrahamFR on 16 May 2014, 14:40
that is pretty amazing, cant argue there. wonnder if the released software is going to be the 326bhp, maybe were even gonna get near 350 out of this turbo
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: GrahamFR on 16 May 2014, 14:51
and one of Apr's comments say that the s3 is getting 360, still sizable gap between the two but compared to the last gen this is really good news, no longer is it 90 bhp gap between the models (270 against 360 for instance)
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: Rossc0 on 16 May 2014, 15:01
Christ on a bike, that's fast.

Really looking forward to see the development on the R
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: 2014GTi on 16 May 2014, 15:47
 :shocked:
is that right....

326bhp / 481nm  :shocked:
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: KyleB on 16 May 2014, 18:04
I see they've mentioned VRS, does that mean they should be able to map the GTD too? Any idea on these figures?
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: GrahamFR on 16 May 2014, 18:50
They mean the petrol, on vw and skoda are using the gti setup this time. Although saying that once this is sorted I'm sure they'll move on to the dervs
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: wigit on 16 May 2014, 19:30
and one of Apr's comments say that the s3 is getting 360, still sizable gap between the two but compared to the last gen this is really good news, no longer is it 90 bhp gap between the models (270 against 360 for instance)

KO4 cars only ever made 300-310 stage 1 so where you get that figure from

I know a ecu flashed GTI is noticeably quicker than a stock R ;)
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: GrahamFR on 16 May 2014, 19:35
I was on about what the turbos could take you to before you have go bigger, the best a mk6 gti could get was 270 and the cupras get to 360 although some are running higher with wmi kits
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: KyleB on 17 May 2014, 09:54
They mean the petrol, on vw and skoda are using the gti setup this time. Although saying that once this is sorted I'm sure they'll move on to the dervs

Ah I see, I wrongly assumed that VRS was the Skoda tuned Diesel range. Cheers
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: GrahamFR on 17 May 2014, 09:58
Nah mate they do petrol as well I nearly bought one as I think the new ones look proper beasty but no option for a diff so no go I'm afraid
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: GiT1984 on 17 May 2014, 11:02
From Facebook;

MK7 Golf GTI and Octavia VRS Owners, we have a treat for you soon! APR, LLC. MK7 GTI Software is nearly ready for release, and just look at those gains!!

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10255016_1481996195364231_7121247779547423176_n.jpg)

God - was that on a standard car? No exhaust or air filter mods?  :shocked:
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: Ian.C on 17 May 2014, 11:54
Apparently no other mods.....but

1- Is this the map they are going to release...??
2- What is the engine putting out to begin with..??

Still impressive

Ian
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: GrahamFR on 17 May 2014, 11:58
They won't say what it started with as it will diminish their overall gains figure but I don't think we should worry about it they should all make the same. But I am interested in what they release it as probably slightly less than peak figures just for reliability reasons. Wish they'd put up a date tho
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: Black oil on 17 May 2014, 12:27
If the Cupra R can put out 280 reliably there must be some fair margin left for the mechanicals.
I understood that factory power spec is a median for all markets,hot/cold etc and the UK must sit right in the middle of the global picture with the added luxury of quality fuels/oils servicing etc.Is this correct?
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: GrahamFR on 17 May 2014, 12:31
The cupra (R will be out with the facelift no doubt) is on a bigger turbo though so it will cope with more.
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: wigit on 17 May 2014, 20:46
If the Cupra R can put out 280 reliably there must be some fair margin left for the mechanicals.
I understood that factory power spec is a median for all markets,hot/cold etc and the UK must sit right in the middle of the global picture with the added luxury of quality fuels/oils servicing etc.Is this correct?

Cupra has a de tuned S3/R engine rather than the GTI unit
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: Exonian on 18 May 2014, 13:58
Interesting that like the tuning box equipped cars it doesn't show meaningful improvements until over 3000rpm which may explain why such big figures are being produced. More top end.
I've noticed that my mk7 GTI, unlike the mk4/5/6 does its thing further up the rev range despite the manufacturer's published torque figures showing peak at very low rpms.
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: Mr Savage on 18 May 2014, 17:02
Interesting that like the tuning box equipped cars it doesn't show meaningful improvements until over 3000rpm which may explain why such big figures are being produced. More top end.
I've noticed that my mk7 GTI, unlike the mk4/5/6 does its thing further up the rev range despite the manufacturer's published torque figures showing peak at very low rpms.

I know that APR have had to limit the power quite heavily in 1st and 2nd to prevent the sheer amount of torque from ripping the clutch apart.
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: wigit on 18 May 2014, 17:46
Interesting that like the tuning box equipped cars it doesn't show meaningful improvements until over 3000rpm which may explain why such big figures are being produced. More top end.
I've noticed that my mk7 GTI, unlike the mk4/5/6 does its thing further up the rev range despite the manufacturer's published torque figures showing peak at very low rpms.

I know that APR have had to limit the power quite heavily in 1st and 2nd to prevent the sheer amount of torque from ripping the clutch apart.

Interesting as it's 5th and 6th pulls which generally are the clutch killers
Title: Re: APR GTI map getting close.
Post by: GrahamFR on 18 May 2014, 17:52
Could just be to help traction