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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: sharki786 on 14 April 2014, 11:56

Title: vr6 timing chains
Post by: sharki786 on 14 April 2014, 11:56
Im thinking about doing the chains on a vr i have out atm. Which make kit shall i get? Febi?
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: boneybradley on 14 April 2014, 12:52
A lot of people will say only go o.e but I have sold several febi kits and no issues reported

The late timing chain kit by febi is £150 (free delivery)
I can also do a full top end kit (gasket set, head bolts and chains) for £280
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: sharki786 on 14 April 2014, 13:32
A lot of people will say only go o.e but I have sold several febi kits and no issues reported

The late timing chain kit by febi is £150 (free delivery)
I can also do a full top end kit (gasket set, head bolts and chains) for £280

When you say you sold several kits. How long has it been? As im abit iffy on the febi now as their top mounts fail quiet abit.
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: tweed on 14 April 2014, 13:37
How many miles your engine done?
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: boneybradley on 14 April 2014, 13:45
Regarding the top mount failure.... The vast majority were bought from a certain on-line ebay shop (maybe it's just coincidence they have a bad batch?)

The chain kit's I have sold have only being over the last few months but speaking with my supplier they have never had a febi chain returned as faulty (same goes with the top mounts).
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: sharki786 on 14 April 2014, 15:50
How many miles your engine done?

137k tweed
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: Wayne on 14 April 2014, 21:57
Febi will be fine, I believe the issue is more to do with the tensioner breaking up hence why the later ones were modified.
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: tweed on 14 April 2014, 22:04
How many miles your engine done?

137k tweed

As wayne just said. I doubt the chains will fail, but the tensioner will and if its not been done before and you're getting a slight rattle then its worth doing as piece of mind.

Lets face it when have you heard of a vr6 chain failure?
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: sharki786 on 14 April 2014, 22:40
How many miles your engine done?

137k tweed

As wayne just said. I doubt the chains will fail, but the tensioner will and if its not been done before and you're getting a slight rattle then its worth doing as piece of mind.

Lets face it when have you heard of a vr6 chain failure?

well im i  2 minds to do the chains as i have now found out that they aint been done. Also as i will be replacing the clutch i thought why not? Tbh tweed never heard of them failing lols
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: boneybradley on 14 April 2014, 22:57
I agree about never failing but as the engine needs to be out, would you risk using the old chain? (It's impossible to tell if it has stretched or links loosened)
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: sharki786 on 14 April 2014, 23:26
I agree about never failing but as the engine needs to be out, would you risk using the old chain? (It's impossible to tell if it has stretched or links loosened)

my mate drove the car (ben victors car) and i did listen to the engine and i couldnt hear the chains rattling at all. But as its out i might aswell replace them.

where can i get the cam locking tool?
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: Wayne on 14 April 2014, 23:47
They tend to stretch and then jump teeth, but if the engine is out then it is the time to replace them.
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: sharki786 on 14 April 2014, 23:53
Koolio peeps. Will get them ordered and replaced :wink:
thanks
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: gasketface on 15 April 2014, 17:57
Forget the chains,just buy the later modified tensioners.:- http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1264409
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: boneybradley on 15 April 2014, 20:23
Forget the chains,just buy the later modified tensioners.:- http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1264409

Going by the people I know with VR6's they don't rate the later plastic tensioner!
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: sharki786 on 16 April 2014, 01:36
Forget the chains,just buy the later modified tensioners.:- http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1264409

Going by the people I know with VR6's they don't rate the later plastic tensioner!

whys that?
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: boneybradley on 16 April 2014, 09:39
When I looked at VR6's (when I bought mine) everyone said if it's over 100k miles and obd2 ensure the tensioner has being done as the later plastic one's don't wear well. I can understand that and never thought to question the info

(I know they fail on polo's etc but I don't really know the VR engine, I might ask the VR6oc what there opinion is?)
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: Therusterman on 16 April 2014, 11:37
When I did the tensioners and chains on my vr, it was on 102k, after reading the guides and various threads I was expecting to see the tensioners and guides in peices, but everything was only showing a little wear. There was however a noticeable difference in the wear on the chains.
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: leigh_harty on 17 April 2014, 18:15

where can i get the cam locking tool?

10mm spanner  :grin: when you look at the end of the cams (when its at tdc) you can time it up by eye... kinda sounds pikey but when you see you'll notice you can't get it wrong. I had my old head in pieces and off several times no dramas regarding timing (and no tool used)  :wink:
Title: Re: vr6 timing chains
Post by: sharki786 on 17 April 2014, 20:18

where can i get the cam locking tool?

10mm spanner  :grin: when you look at the end of the cams (when its at tdc) you can time it up by eye... kinda sounds pikey but when you see you'll notice you can't get it wrong. I had my old head in pieces and off several times no dramas regarding timing (and no tool used)  :wink:

Iv been reading the how to guide on vwvortex. I made my own locking plates lol


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Mind the dodgy hand writing lols

they are 3mm or 1/8" lols