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Title: Get ya mods declared.................................
Post by: JC on 04 April 2014, 21:03
. :shocked: :whistle:

read the whole article.

http://www.suffolk.police.uk/newsandevents/newsstories/2014/april/illegallymodifiedvehicles.aspx

 :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: dom on 04 April 2014, 21:07
All declared here, car is even featured on greenlights website and Facebook page  :smug:
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Post by: Rhyso on 04 April 2014, 21:41
All declared here, car is even featured on greenlights website and Facebook page  :smug:

Just renewed with Greenlight today so I'm covered  :smug:
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Post by: tweed on 04 April 2014, 23:37
Haha im from Haverhill and thats my cousin in the backround and his lupo.
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Post by: 1.8Tgolf_Chris on 05 April 2014, 09:20
does wheels count as a modification being vw audi wheels still?
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Post by: legg360 on 05 April 2014, 10:18
I told mine I got optional extra alloys, so they know they are not standard but still VW wheels
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Post by: Bellend on 05 April 2014, 10:39
I actually got checked out once, had been pulled loads of times and nothing said, finally declared and then two weeks later they checked it down in Kent.
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Post by: dom on 05 April 2014, 11:47
does wheels count as a modification being vw audi wheels still?

If it didn't come out of the factory on them then it's classed as a modification.
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Post by: th3_f15t on 05 April 2014, 12:26
Better chuck things on that not, what's the harm in being extra careful? A few quid more on a premium to avoid criminal offences, insurance declined and a whole world of hurt?

Although, the above article sure sounds like a bit of entrapment to me... :whistle:
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 05 April 2014, 12:34
All declared here. Mind you it's in the garage so they won't be checking anything anyway.
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Post by: tweed on 05 April 2014, 19:49
Sky insurance is really good for the m3 guys. Hardly any difference from standard car to modified.
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Post by: hobbiniho on 05 April 2014, 20:48
Sky insurance is really good for the m3 guys. Hardly any difference from standard car to modified.

yeh they are good iv just reinsured my mk3 20vt with them and isnt much more than the standard car with any of the comparison websited that i checked  :cool:
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 05 April 2014, 22:04
Sky are my insurers too. Best price by miles and basically the mods cost nothing to add on over standard.
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Post by: bobbarley on 05 April 2014, 22:20
I'll definitely give them a go when I renew.  I've only declared the mods you can actually see lol 
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Post by: Lewy on 05 April 2014, 22:23
Mods, what mods???
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Post by: Chris. on 05 April 2014, 22:27
Mods, what mods??????

 :lipsrsealed:

Dont think anything on mine is classed as a mk4 golf 1.4E.   That has boggy spec windy windows!

insurers will run out of paper when i tell them everything different on mine
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Post by: Carl! on 06 April 2014, 00:13
I'll definitely give them a go when I renew.  I've only declared the mods you can actually see lol

greenlight are spot on too. covered stage 1 remap for no extra. Can't grumble at that.
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Post by: kittie on 08 April 2014, 17:13
All declared for me too, with Adrian Flux.

Just less than £200 now as well, I feel old!
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Post by: leigh_harty on 08 April 2014, 17:55
Brentacre and worked out cheaper, first insurance company I'm 'fully' legit with aswell  :wink: Cars actually got a legitimate MOT too  :laugh:
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Post by: legg360 on 08 April 2014, 19:37
All declared for me too, with Adrian Flux.

Just less than £200 now as well, I feel old!


Id happily feel old if my insurance was that cheap!!
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Post by: Horney on 11 April 2014, 16:27
I agree with all of the article with the exception of:

Quote
Four vehicles were issued with Fixed Penalty Notices for their non-standard exhaust systems exceeding the legal sound readings.

What legal sound readings? There is no set legal sound limit in this country and a Lidl car park with a sound meter is not going to get an accurate reading even if there was one.
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Post by: bobbarley on 11 April 2014, 16:57
The legal limit for exhaust noise is 100db
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Post by: VW BUSH on 11 April 2014, 18:06
Modified exhaust systems
It’s illegal to modify the exhaust system to make a vehicle noisier after it has been ‘type approved’ (checked it meets environmental and safety standards).

The police can also take action if your vehicle’s silencer doesn’t work in the way it was designed or if you’re driving in a way that creates too much noise.

https://www.gov.uk/noise-pollution-road-train-plane/vehicle-noise-limits

A bit vague?
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Post by: Horney on 11 April 2014, 21:01
The legal limit for exhaust noise is 100db

From? I've never seen it written down anywhere. C&U only mentions a limit for fresh built kit cars.
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Post by: mcgee9t2 on 13 April 2014, 21:39
i have heard there is a limit, but imo, you could just argue that you never take it up to high revs on the road or some bs.
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Post by: kittie on 14 April 2014, 12:42
All declared for me too, with Adrian Flux.

Just less than £200 now as well, I feel old!


Id happily feel old if my insurance was that cheap!!

Ha well it is a social/domestic only, limited miles, lives on a driveway policy as well which helps

I was worried this time around that the price might have gone up with the (stupid) new rules about not being able to give females cheaper quotes but thankfully that doesn't seem to have happened.
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Post by: legg360 on 14 April 2014, 23:08
All declared for me too, with Adrian Flux.

Just less than £200 now as well, I feel old!


Id happily feel old if my insurance was that cheap!!

Ha well it is a social/domestic only, limited miles, lives on a driveway policy as well which helps

I was worried this time around that the price might have gone up with the (stupid) new rules about not being able to give females cheaper quotes but thankfully that doesn't seem to have happened.

To be honest I cant complain, Im 22 have business use with 15k of miles in a car park only 3 years NCB and pay £600
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Post by: rich1977 on 18 April 2014, 20:51
What is classed as a faulty interior light?

And what offence are you committing if it doesn't work
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Post by: barrym381 on 19 April 2014, 09:18
What is classed as a faulty interior light?

And what offence are you committing if it doesn't work
a light that does not work its classed as  :laugh: and the only offence your committing is being stupid enough to ask  :whistle:
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Post by: rich1977 on 19 April 2014, 11:34
Fair enough, but it's worded like its a major criminal offence and dangerous to have a faulty interior light lol

The one in my mk2 hasn't worked in years
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Post by: clancy on 20 April 2014, 12:51
never declared any mods on any of my cars, ive never had an issue. always seems to double the premium so i never bother

on that article as well, if i read it right, the police didnt charge anyone with anything to do with their mods. simply told the insurance companies ? if thats all that happens then ill gladly not declare my mods
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Post by: barrym381 on 20 April 2014, 13:01
never declared any mods on any of my cars, ive never had an issue. always seems to double the premium so i never bother

on that article as well, if i read it right, the police didnt charge anyone with anything to do with their mods. simply told the insurance companies ? if thats all that happens then ill gladly not declare my mods
so your happy to tell every1 your driving with a void policy  :grin: :grin: really smart that
Title: Re: Get ya mods declared.................................
Post by: JC on 20 April 2014, 13:12
never declared any mods on any of my cars, ive never had an issue. always seems to double the premium so i never bother

on that article as well, if i read it right, the police didnt charge anyone with anything to do with their mods. simply told the insurance companies ? if thats all that happens then ill gladly not declare my mods

erm, and when the insurance companies found out about all the un-declared mods ? 

you think they just sent them an early chrimbo card ?

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: clancy on 20 April 2014, 13:32
would of put their insurance up obviously. but id rather pay the scum bags if and when i have too rather than up front every year. they charge enough as it is anyway!
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Post by: JC on 20 April 2014, 13:34
 :huh: is that all you think ?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: clancy on 20 April 2014, 13:36
:huh: is that all you think ?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

thats all that happened to a friend who was put in that situation last year. what do you recon happened then ? article doesnt say
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Post by: legg360 on 20 April 2014, 13:36
Don't declare you mods and see how much your insurance pays out when they find out, a friend of mines bike was written off in a no fault accident, when the other drivers insurer come out to assess the damage to the bike they seen an aftermark exhaust, as this wasn't declared on his insurance the other company claimed he was not riding in accordance with his policy so was not insured. As he was now not insured the other company would not pay a penny for his bike

Just shows it might not be your fault but you still might be paying the full bill for your repairs
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Post by: clancy on 20 April 2014, 13:41
with the above post, i find that a bit confusing. if hes claiming off the other person insurance, his insurance has nothing to do with it, they wouldnt even get involved if the other party admitted full liability
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Post by: legg360 on 20 April 2014, 13:45
If you crash into someone who is not insured is your insurance company going to pay for an illegal driver to have their car fixed or are they going todo as all insurance companies do and try and find away to reduce how much they have to pay out?
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Post by: clancy on 20 April 2014, 13:54
If you crash into someone who is not insured is your insurance company going to pay for an illegal driver to have their car fixed or are they going todo as all insurance companies do and try and find away to reduce how much they have to pay out?

yeah i know im not arguing with what you said, they will get out of paying in anyway they can. just going off experiences i know of on forums etc in a lot of cases the non fault persons insurance has not come into it at all
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Post by: Rhyso on 20 April 2014, 13:58
never declared any mods on any of my cars, ive never had an issue. always seems to double the premium so i never bother


You not tried shopping around then??  I found my modified policy was cheaper than a bog standard one

Also what happens when someone hits you and the insurance company wont pay you a penny because your policy is void?

Have a happy easter
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Post by: dom on 20 April 2014, 14:00
would of put their insurance up obviously. but id rather pay the scum bags if and when i have too rather than up front every year. they charge enough as it is anyway!

Out of interest who are you insured with? There are lots of specialist companies around, greenlight insure me with all my mods and it's not much more expensive that the cheapest quote on go compare with a standard car.
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Post by: dom on 20 April 2014, 14:00
Damn Rhys, beat me to it :angry:
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Post by: clancy on 20 April 2014, 14:02
admiral multicar at the minute, literally shopping around now after reading this thread trying to find a decent price with everything declared.

i do shop around, but last year non of the independent places would cover me so had to go through comparison site. added coilovers and exhaust on compare the market and the premium went from £450 to £1300
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Post by: sharki786 on 20 April 2014, 14:35
When i was with admiral, i declared my mods (exhaust, brakes & suspention mods) it only went up by 50 squids
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Post by: legg360 on 20 April 2014, 14:53
I'm with admiral, with exterior changes exhaust non standard alloys went up by less then £20 and when ask for a quote for remap and intake I was less then £20 again so for £40 I think its worth it that's on a £600 policy
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 20 April 2014, 15:33
admiral multicar at the minute, literally shopping around now after reading this thread trying to find a decent price with everything declared.

i do shop around, but last year non of the independent places would cover me so had to go through comparison site. added coilovers and exhaust on compare the market and the premium went from £450 to £1300

First and foremost, you're a bellend. Anyone who thinks it's ok to drive around without declaring mods is a complete moron. Regardless of the fact you have paid Admiral, you are not currently insured. If you hit someone, and an assessor picks up on any/all mods to your vehicle, they WILL tell your insurer who will then not pay out to you.

If you can't afford the insurance due to mods, or don't want to pay it, then don't do the mods.

Also, I'd suggest amending your posts as considering you have just openly said on a public forum that you haven't declared mods you could find yourself in a bit of bother.

I wonder what Admiral would make of this. **Goes to ring them now.**
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Post by: JC on 20 April 2014, 15:48
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:@ shody  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Adam on 20 April 2014, 15:51
(http://www.muddystilettos.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Harry-Hill-Fight-AP-WDC5.jpg)
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Post by: clancy on 20 April 2014, 16:03
@ shady

current cars aren't modified  :smiley: insurance is perfectly valid
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Post by: barrym381 on 20 April 2014, 16:05
@ shady

current cars aren't modified  :smiley: insurance is perfectly valid
liar  :grin:
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Post by: clancy on 20 April 2014, 16:06
genuinely aren't  :grin:

previous cars i have not declared mods on, current ones are standard for the time being.

mods are declared on my bike, didn't make no difference to my insurance on that
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Post by: barrym381 on 20 April 2014, 16:10
genuinely aren't  :grin:

previous cars i have not declared mods on, current ones are standard for the time being.

mods are declared on my bike, didn't make no difference to my insurance on that
did the bike stabilisers not bring it down  :laugh:
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Post by: clancy on 20 April 2014, 16:11
unfortunately not
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 20 April 2014, 16:12
@ shady

current cars aren't modified  :smiley: insurance is perfectly valid

Do you have a standard stereo in the car or an aftermarket one?
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Post by: Adam on 20 April 2014, 16:17
@ shady

current cars aren't modified  :smiley: insurance is perfectly valid

Do you have a standard stereo in the car or an aftermarket one?

You're a (http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/coffee_beans.gif)
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 20 April 2014, 16:28
@ shady

current cars aren't modified  :smiley: insurance is perfectly valid

Do you have a standard stereo in the car or an aftermarket one?

You're a (http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/coffee_beans.gif)

Not really bothered about being a wayne kerr. I'm making a valid point, and at the end of the day, insurance companies don't give a sh!t so long as they have your money. So why risk potentially not getting paid out for things that generally don't make a difference to premiums. If they know, you're covered. End of.
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Post by: JC on 20 April 2014, 16:35
@ shady

current cars aren't modified  :smiley: insurance is perfectly valid

Do you have a standard stereo in the car or an aftermarket one?

You're a (http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/coffee_beans.gif)

Oh we need that smilie adding.  :whistle:

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Post by: barrym381 on 20 April 2014, 16:39
@ shady

current cars aren't modified  :smiley: insurance is perfectly valid

Do you have a standard stereo in the car or an aftermarket one?

You're a (http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/coffee_beans.gif)

Oh we need that smilie adding.  :whistle:
agreed  :grin:
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Post by: dom on 20 April 2014, 16:46
I wonder what Admiral would make of this. **Goes to ring them now.**

Why do you think I asked which company he was with :whistle: :grin:
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Post by: sharki786 on 20 April 2014, 20:26
Too many snitches here :grin:
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Post by: bobbarley on 20 April 2014, 21:03
I've had to use my insurance twice now. They definitely aren't that clued up on what you actually do and don't have  :grin:
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Post by: mcgee9t2 on 22 April 2014, 12:55
+1 on them not being clued up.

my mate crashed his old 206 that was modified, nothing declared, someone came out to check the car and said the only thing that wasnt stadard was a sticker :D

however, i suspect that when the police told the insurance companies most of there policies will have been canceled...

as for your friend getting told he only had to pay a little extra money, he was lucky, cause not many companies would do that.