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Title: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: TheCarMadDad on 04 April 2014, 20:16
For those of you who want to know how much of a gap there is in acceleration between the two...

http://youtu.be/XD6FMng0P-w
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: mikeok on 04 April 2014, 20:50
GTI does pull alot harder..and its not even a PP model..
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: TheCarMadDad on 04 April 2014, 20:55
Yeah defo. I think in gear acceleration would be interesting....
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 April 2014, 07:11
This argument has been flogged to death and then some. You don't know if it was the same driver, same bit of road, were they both manual etc etc. The gti will get to 60 quicker but not by much but as said in gear acceleration would be pretty even.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: Ross Detours on 05 April 2014, 10:16
Who even cares how fast a diesel can get off the line? That's not where Diesel engines are comfortable and for that reason shouldn't be compared to petrol in these pointless 0-60 races. If it was a GTD with a DTUK box from a rolling 3rd gear start, I bet it would hold its own against a GTI PP quite easily.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: TheCarMadDad on 05 April 2014, 14:21
Guys, chill!! I posted it as it was the only vid I've seen where the to two dashes are visible side by side. To some people, that might be of interest if they are undecided between a GTI/D. Jeez!!!

Also it isn't a boy racer 0-60 race, it's both cars going from 0-220kmh (ish) respectively
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: CR4ZYHOR5E on 05 April 2014, 14:38
Of course the GTI is faster...Meanwhile in the real world...

I'll be impressed when someone posts a video the shows a side-by-side counter calibrated in £ which ticks away over a 24 month company car lease period, takes into account monthly lease cost, BIK tax, depreciation, fuel costs over the period based on 20k per year, all around a driving profile which involves commuting to work, dropping kid at school and making periodic visits to Tescos.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: Jimble on 05 April 2014, 15:21
I know this one is manual vs DSG but i still like it and gives a nice comparison between the two, i've said it before but imo the only reason you'd have a GTD over a GTI is economy, if i used my car every day to commute i would go for a GTD no question, the performance vs economy would make it ideal.


http://youtu.be/_irbzli_LCA (http://youtu.be/_irbzli_LCA)

Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: GrahamFR on 05 April 2014, 16:14
42 mpg against 36 on the drive to the track, I'll trade 6 mpg for soundtrack any day (recent convert what can I say)
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: Ross Detours on 05 April 2014, 16:36
Anyone else notice in the video that Jimble posted, the guy has obviously got his wife out to start the race? Haha
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 April 2014, 16:55
42 mpg against 36 on the drive to the track, I'll trade 6 mpg for soundtrack any day (recent convert what can I say)

If by sound track you mean sound actuator, then GTI/GTD sound the same in the car, externally there are obvious differences but GTI sounds like a typical 4cyl 2.0 petrol. The R32 or old 5cyl Focus ST are what I'd call soundtrack!

Someone had to kick this wasp nest again. :grin:

Happy with my 45mpg 240ps DTUK GTD. Sounds great from the drivers seat.  :whistle:

Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: Jimble on 05 April 2014, 17:20
He means the drive to the track in the video, i've driven a GTD and owned a GTI (briefly! :grin: ) they don't sound the same inside! The diesel doesn't sound bad at all but not the same.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: GrahamFR on 05 April 2014, 18:46
I actually meant the whopping great exhaust sticking out my rear, but I'm not here to start a derv vs petrol argument, I've been on both sides now and each has it merits, one of the being a trade off between fuel economy and power, I'm just surprised to see the gap is smaller than I thought
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: GrahamFR on 05 April 2014, 18:51
Which in other news actually sounds louder with the DTUK box off for some reason, don't know how that works tbh but never mind
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: Valenni on 06 April 2014, 02:18
GTD = Company car with thrills. GTI = Private owner with more thrills.

I love my GTD, and when I get my DTUK box fitted, I will have my GTI speed! Everybody wins!
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 April 2014, 09:14
Plenty of people who aren't company car drivers have bought gtd's so it's not just an exclusive company car.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: GTD_777 on 06 April 2014, 11:21
2014 Golf 7 GTD vs. Golf 7 2.0 TDI - 0-224 km/h a…: http://youtu.be/z-m2BqVWXKg

This is probably a more interesting video for the GTD owners although manual vs DSG is never fair and its not exactly test conditions.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: CR4ZYHOR5E on 06 April 2014, 13:31
Again just illustrates how pointless these videos are.

GTD could have been on a bed of skittles for all we know.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: ffrank on 06 April 2014, 13:55
Even though it looks almost the same, with the GTD being a few kph ahead all the way to 60mph it's probably 10 metres ahead by then, and it's goodbye from there!

But yeh, I still think it's far from a good way to do comparisons - by the same method they showed the GTI beating a M135i to 60.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: Darlo on 06 April 2014, 14:26
Love these threads! Everyone gets all defensive about their cars!

Surely the only reason to buy a gtd over a gti is mpg?

I reckon a gtd with a box fitted would be a great little package. Almost as good as my gti with my DTUK box fitted........ :-)
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: ffrank on 06 April 2014, 15:31
For me it was all round costs - so mpg, tax, list price and residuals. Was about £80 difference a month for me over 4 years (if doing 15,000 miles and using 35 and 45 as average mpg's.)

I've always enjoyed fast diesels though, so doesn't feel like a compromise to me at least - although I'm sure I might have got the bug had I test drove the GTI.  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 April 2014, 21:22
If they can get the gti to do 50mpg on a run and 40 around town then I'd be buying one. It's getting closer but the overall costs are still in the gtd's favour at the moment.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: Valenni on 07 April 2014, 08:56
Plenty of people who aren't company car drivers have bought gtd's so it's not just an exclusive company car.

No of course not, but it's a perfect choice for a company car for people who can't justify a GTI.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: Poached on 07 April 2014, 09:52
+60 ps peak gain from a chip? Sounds 'interesting'.
Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: GiT1984 on 07 April 2014, 23:46
+60 ps peak gain from a chip? Sounds 'interesting'.

Safety protocols disengaged? It does sound a lot for just a chip change doesn't it? Maybe if it was running a larger turbo and / or larger intercooler - it might seem more plausible.

The only standard car I know of that's jumped even higher with only a rechip is Monkey Harris' Audi S4 with the 3.0 Supercharged V6 and that's mostly because it was so heavily detuned to stop it competing with the RS4 .....but that's no 4 pot turbodiesel!

Title: Re: GTI vs GTD acceleration (vid)
Post by: GrahamFR on 08 April 2014, 06:35
Mk2 cupras been making that jump at stage 1 for years