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Title: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: chris1h on 18 March 2014, 17:59
In process of buying a mk6 and the dealer I believe has put some kumhos on the back two tyres since I purchased it..(originally all mitchelins) Are they a okay ish low budget tyre or should I be telling them to get Mitchelins back on? The dealer argued briefly that they were a like for like and its what volkswagon as a brand use..
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: Jimmymature on 18 March 2014, 18:47
In process of buying a mk6 and the dealer I believe has put some kumhos on the back two tyres since I purchased it..(originally all mitchelins) Are they a okay ish low budget tyre or should I be telling them to get Mitchelins back on? The dealer argued briefly that they were a like for like and its what volkswagon as a brand use..

Are you saying  that you bought it and since you did the dealer put cheap cr@p tyres on? I'd be telling them where to go, and tell them you want decent tyres on either standard GTI fit or matching the front.

I suppose where you bought it from will decide how far you get, but if it's VW I'd be telling them it's a deal breaker and see how far you get.


Jim
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: chris1h on 18 March 2014, 19:08
In process of buying a mk6 and the dealer I believe has put some kumhos on the back two tyres since I purchased it..(originally all mitchelins) Are they a okay ish low budget tyre or should I be telling them to get Mitchelins back on? The dealer argued briefly that they were a like for like and its what volkswagon as a brand use..

Are you saying  that you bought it and since you did the dealer put cheap cr@p tyres on? I'd be telling them where to go, and tell them you want decent tyres on either standard GTI fit or matching the front.

I suppose where you bought it from will decide how far you get, but if it's VW I'd be telling them it's a deal breaker and see how far you get.


Jim

yerh!  cheers mate!  I purchased the car and they said while ago when i first viewed it that if tyres were under 3mil then would swap like for like tyre. The dealer argued briefly that by the ratings these kumhos are "like for like" 
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: Mattyj on 18 March 2014, 19:12
Comparing a kumho to a michelin is like compaing a robin reliant to to a rolls royce
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: Snooze on 18 March 2014, 19:13
Don't stand for that!
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: chris1h on 18 March 2014, 19:18
Don't stand for that!

I wont!  I have already purchased the car just havent taken delivery yet. it was getting serviced when they have changed them. luckily i spotted them when i was up the garage yesterday just popping in for a look on how it was coming along! however he argued that tyres now have these ratings like washers etc... and the ratings of these kumhos were all well and good and matched the mitchelin :grin:

take it thats bull :whistle:

Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: charlie on 18 March 2014, 19:36
Just read a couple of reviews on kumho tyres and people rate them.  I don't know what spec tyre you have but they aren't that cheap either. 
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: chris1h on 18 March 2014, 19:41
Just read a couple of reviews on kumho tyres and people rate them.  I don't know what spec tyre you have but they aren't that cheap either.

you read reviews on the gti's? I searched google and found people slating them and some saying there okay.  either way i stand by "you get what you pay for" and mitchelins being much more expensive i would prefer them on.. unfortunantly i didnt find out what type just the brand. :\   
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: charlie on 18 March 2014, 19:57
I had michelins on my first mk6 gti and they got replaced on the front before the car had 10000 miles on it I did replace with michelins again wanting to keep all four tyres the same make. The one I have know has conti's on it and if I had my choice this is what I would have fitted.  I can understand your not chuffed with what the dealer has supplied go in speak to them see what can be done
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: SRGTD on 18 March 2014, 20:06
Link to reviews below. You can also check out reviews of the premium brands on this site too. It does mention that Kumho tyres are supplied as original equipment to vehicle brands such as VW and Mercedes, although I must admit, I'd be pretty disappointed if I found these had been fitted on my car when I took delivery.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Kumho/
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: itavaltalainen on 18 March 2014, 20:09
which kumhos are we talking about, they do make some cheap tyres but also decent ones... same for michelin (if they say miTchelin then they are chinese knock offs  :drool: )

but do know where you're coming from.... just had the same thing with lease company (well their 'tyre department' which i think are just kwikfit call centre)... told them 10x i had pirelli p7's.... so what does the bloke turn up with to replace a single tyre... dunlop sport maxx rt.... they are insisting it's equal.... so now got 2 different tyres on the back...
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: mikegti77 on 19 March 2014, 07:29
given the choice i would take michelin over kumho, however as several have pointed out, kumho are not a 'cheapo' brand, more mid range along with the likes of avon, hankook, falken etc.  all of which are decent tyres.

kumho is fitted as oem to several brands: http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/company.php

including the very expensive mini john cooper works gp: http://www.atseuromaster.co.uk/news/tyre-news/kumho-the-exclusive-tyre-supplier-of-mini-john-cooper-works-gp_801534036.htm 

if you can get michelin tyres on the rear of your car from the dealer i would, then you have 4 x matching tyres.
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: Mattyj on 19 March 2014, 17:20
Are you all mad? Kumho are more budget than mid range michelin are top of the range so what if its oem on some cars thats just so they can rip you off a bit more
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: jv on 19 March 2014, 17:59
Nah not really. 225/40/18's as an example:

Budget junk start at £38
Kumho £75
Michelin - £104

Firmly mid-range.
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: dubber36 on 19 March 2014, 18:03
It is the dealer trying to get away with saving a few quid. So many people wouldn't even notice. I bought a year old Yaris for my Dad last year and it needed a pair of front tyres. They tried to get away with putting some shit tyres on it, but I insisted that it had Dunlops to match the rear. It was an approved used car, therefore should be to factory spec. It took a lot of arguing, but I got the Dunlops in the end.

In the case of the GTI, they came from the factory with either Dunlop, Bridgestone, Michelin, Continental or Pirelli tyres. You might be able to convince a main dealer to fit the correct tyres, but if it's an independent trader, as long as the tyres are legal, he's doing all that he has to. I would be prepared to walk away from the deal if he won't fit Michelins for you. It's not as if there aren't other GTI's for sale.
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: chris1h on 19 March 2014, 19:03
It is the dealer trying to get away with saving a few quid. So many people wouldn't even notice. I bought a year old Yaris for my Dad last year and it needed a pair of front tyres. They tried to get away with putting some shit tyres on it, but I insisted that it had Dunlops to match the rear. It was an approved used car, therefore should be to factory spec. It took a lot of arguing, but I got the Dunlops in the end.

In the case of the GTI, they came from the factory with either Dunlop, Bridgestone, Michelin, Continental or Pirelli tyres. You might be able to convince a main dealer to fit the correct tyres, but if it's an independent trader, as long as the tyres are legal, he's doing all that he has to. I would be prepared to walk away from the deal if he won't fit Michelins for you. It's not as if there aren't other GTI's for sale.

its a main dealer that i am dealing with mate! very good point you raised there which i will tell them tomorrow about should be same as factory!  thanks for that! :tongue:
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: Mattyj on 19 March 2014, 19:08
Nah not really. 225/40/18's as an example:

Budget junk start at £38
Kumho £75
Michelin - £104

Firmly mid-range.

My mid range is quailty not price
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: mikegti77 on 19 March 2014, 19:31
Nah not really. 225/40/18's as an example:

Budget junk start at £38
Kumho £75
Michelin - £104

Firmly mid-range.

My mid range is quailty not price

true, but then why would VW, Merc and Mini fit them if they cheapo tyres.  If manufactures are only interested in cost, why not fit a Wanli or Primewell tyre from factory...

Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: Mattyj on 19 March 2014, 20:19
Cos that would probably be going too far and they could possibly cause damage to the car due to failure under warranty maybe
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: Snooze on 19 March 2014, 20:53
Having had a pair of arrow speeds on the back and falkens on the front when I bought my car. I'm never gonna buy anything but the best I can afford. I've literally only just now got a full set of Goodyear eagle F1's after having the car 18 months. The difference is vast.
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: chris1h on 19 March 2014, 20:56
Having had a pair of arrow speeds on the back and falkens on the front when I bought my car. I'm never gonna buy anything but the best I can afford. I've literally only just now got a full set of Goodyear eagle F1's after having the car 18 months. The difference is vast.

yerh thats why am not standing for anything less than what they said " like to like tyre" very stubborn from the dealer
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: Booth11 on 19 March 2014, 21:28
Since the rubber is the only thing keeping you in contact with the road, stick to your guns and tell them you want michelins back on.

Make it clear to them that your interpretation and expectation of 'like for like replacement'' is replacement with the same make of tyre, especially as it would have left the factory with 4 matching tyres, and that this influenced your decision to go ahead and purchase the car.  They'll no doubt argue it but if you put up a convincing argument, I bet they'll cave.
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: chris1h on 19 March 2014, 21:57
Since the rubber is the only thing keeping you in contact with the road, stick to your guns and tell them you want michelins back on.

Make it clear to them that your interpretation and expectation of 'like for like replacement'' is replacement with the same make of tyre, especially as it would have left the factory with 4 matching tyres, and that this influenced your decision to go ahead and purchase the car.  They'll no doubt argue it but if you put up a convincing argument, I bet they'll cave.

yerh cheers pal! il be onto them first thing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: Mattyj on 19 March 2014, 22:20
Since the rubber is the only thing keeping you in contact with the road, stick to your guns and tell them you want michelins back on.

Make it clear to them that your interpretation and expectation of 'like for like replacement'' is replacement with the same make of tyre, especially as it would have left the factory with 4 matching tyres, and that this influenced your decision to go ahead and purchase the car.  They'll no doubt argue it but if you put up a convincing argument, I bet they'll cave.

Seconded and thirded!! My mate had goodyear he said they transformed the car i'm running fslken and vredstein at the mo but getting goodyear next
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: dubber36 on 20 March 2014, 07:50
As it is an Approved Used car, make sure it comes with all the right bits. They are often missing mats, the bottle opener and USB and iphone media leads. Without them, the car is not complete, which it should be if it's being sold as 'Approved Used'.

When I went to collect my Golf, it had no mats in it. They told me it was a used car and the previous owner had taken them out, so that was that. I told them that they should be there and the car was not complete without them. They could tell I wasn't going to be fobbed off, so went and got me a set from parts.
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: chris1h on 20 March 2014, 15:24
UPDATE :laugh:

hi all, update of the situation. I got in contact with VW customer care and they have looked into the matter. obviously not letting the situation lie and stating my concern over the budget tyre.. Overall got two new michelins arriving at my local dealer saturday to be fiitted!  very good work from VW! but something that shouldn't have even cropped up?  its the tight world we live in!

thanks everyone for the help on the situation! appreciated.  peace out! :laugh:

 :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: charlie on 20 March 2014, 17:16
Glad you sorted it Chris h enjoy when you get it  :smiley:
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: Booth11 on 20 March 2014, 17:19
Glad you got the right outcome.  Always stand your ground  :smiley:
Title: Re: Kumho Tyres...Mitchelin tyres..
Post by: chris1h on 20 March 2014, 17:44
thanks!! :wink:

will hopefully get some pictures up when i get it ( hopefully weekend) :rolleyes: