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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: SamH123 on 16 March 2014, 16:10
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Right i know very little about cars so you may have to be patient with me.
Im sure this question has been asked before but i can't find the answers im looking for.
I have 1.8t, getting ready to get it remapped. Should be running around 210bhp when thats done (so im told)
Should i get bigger brakes? Or any other recommended brakes that might be good.
I've been told to get Audi tt 312mm front brake setup but some people have also said not to bother.
I do ideally like to be able to stop pretty quickly :grin:
So any views from some more experienced car enthusiasts would be appreciated.
P.S brake pads and discs need to be changed soon regardless anyway...
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Ive got bigger brakes on mine and if iam honest no different to my old golf with standered brakes just look good lol
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Yeah i heard a few people say there isnt much difference, but others saying there is.
Im not bothered about looks really, just interested to see if while i am changing my brakes if it would be worth putting in a bit extra ££ to improve braking.
Thank you.
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I'm running a bit more than 210bhp with standard brakes and they do the job fine. Personally I'd just replace your current discs/pads with decent ones.
However if you do want a bigger setup then the 312mm upgrade is pretty easy.
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If you want an in-between (without needing new carriers) I sell Brembo Max discs in 288mm for £103 the pair and pads start at £28 for Ferodo's.
http://www.brembo.com/en/car/replacements/products/Pages/Brembo-Max.aspx (http://www.brembo.com/en/car/replacements/products/Pages/Brembo-Max.aspx)
or if you do go 312mm, I have a pair of std brembo discs in stock on offer at £80 the pair (all prices inc delivery)
I also do lots of other brakes for the Mk4 (along with other stuff) www.oemandmore.co.uk (http://www.oemandmore.co.uk) :wink:
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Good to know that boney nice 1
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I upgraded from 288 - 312mm and I did feel the difference however I changed, discs, pads and brake fluid too.
People do say that they do not notice a difference when upgrading BUT there is another good reason for doing it. If you running more power odds are your brakes will get hotter alot quicker.
having bigger surface area means better cooling on your brakes hich in theory means better braking and less chance of warping.
Not that it will happen but me and my OCD = money spending lol
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I upgraded from 288 - 312mm and I did feel the difference however I changed, discs, pads and brake fluid too.
People do say that they do not notice a difference when upgrading BUT there is another good reason for doing it. If you running more power odds are your brakes will get hotter alot quicker.
having bigger surface area means better cooling on your brakes hich in theory means better braking and less chance of warping.
Not that it will happen but me and my OCD = money spending lol
For road use I doubt you'll notice the difference in heat fade between 288mm and 312mm, and power doesn't really come into that equation. I could get a set of 312mm discs smoking hot driving a standard 1.8t if I wanted to.
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If your doing 0-60 with less or more power surely you are still doing 60 and need to break the same?
If bigger power means driving like a nutjob the surely you could potentially need better breaks even with low power?
Thats my theory lol
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If you want an in-between (without needing new carriers) I sell Brembo Max discs in 288mm for £103 the pair and pads start at £28 for Ferodo's.
http://www.brembo.com/en/car/replacements/products/Pages/Brembo-Max.aspx (http://www.brembo.com/en/car/replacements/products/Pages/Brembo-Max.aspx)
or if you do go 312mm, I have a pair of std brembo discs in stock on offer at £80 the pair (all prices inc delivery)
I also do lots of other brakes for the Mk4 (along with other stuff) www.oemandmore.co.uk (http://www.oemandmore.co.uk) :wink:
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Awesome, thanks.
Do you have any recommendations for good performance?
I have not the slightest clue when it comes to brands...
For example...
2 X BREMBO DRILLED GROOVED FRONT VENTED BRAKE DISCS 288MM DIAMETER 5 STUD FITTING
1 X SET (4) NEW FRONT BREMBO BRAKE PADS
2 X NEW REAR BREMBO DRILLED GROOVED BRAKE DISCS SOLID 232MM DIAMETER
189.00 too good to be true?
(yes its off ebay, not buying from there as ive heard its not the best of ideas but easiest place to find examples)
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For example...
2 X BREMBO DRILLED GROOVED FRONT VENTED BRAKE DISCS 288MM DIAMETER 5 STUD FITTING
1 X SET (4) NEW FRONT BREMBO BRAKE PADS
2 X NEW REAR BREMBO DRILLED GROOVED BRAKE DISCS SOLID 232MM DIAMETER
189.00 too good to be true?
(yes its off ebay, not buying from there as ive heard its not the best of ideas but easiest place to find examples)
They are not brembo discs, they are unbranded and come with brembo pads (Post a link to confirm, but brembo only do drilled and grooved discs in brembo sport and they are £250+ a pair)
Std brembo disc and pads f&r are £130 or with Max discs are £230 (prices are for cars with or without wear indicators, subject to chassis no)
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Heres the link http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261267655381?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261267655381?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
I checked on your website, do the pads come in pairs(Front brake pads 288mm & 312mm (With Wear Indicators) - Brembo P 85 045)? I can't see if it says as the discs are noted as "(Pairs)".
Sorry for all the questions, but i am hopeless :grin: Dont want to go and order the wrong thing.
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Well them discs do confuse me, Brembo do not do drilled and grooved discs in any of their ranges (I do wonder if they are old stock or badly listed?)
and all my discs and pads are priced per axle set (2 discs, 4 pads etc) (Google hates me listing them like it but I would never sell just 1 disc, I let ecp get the low google shopping prices using the price for 1 disc despite they wont sell them that way! (ok maybe they would?))
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That's ebay for you haha.
Couple more questions and i will (hopefully) have them ordered...
The ones ive added to my basket, "Front brake pads 288mm & 312mm (With Wear Indicators) - Brembo P 85 045"
Is that just that they will work for both?
Front brake discs 288mm (pair) - Brembo Max 09.7010.76
Front brake pads 288mm & 312mm (With Wear Indicators) - Brembo P 85 045
Rear brake discs 232mm (pair) - Brembo Max 08.7165.75
Rear brake pads all models - Brembo P 85 020
Is that all compatible and should go fine?
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I use a system called tec-doc which lists all products by all suppliers and is a great system to have and it's unlikely to be wrong (as it's no1 in Europe for the automotive after market and hugely respected)
That's ebay for you haha.
Couple more questions and i will (hopefully) have them ordered...
The ones ive added to my basket, "Front brake pads 288mm & 312mm (With Wear Indicators) - Brembo P 85 045"
Is that just that they will work for both?
Front brake discs 288mm (pair) - Brembo Max 09.7010.76
Front brake pads 288mm & 312mm (With Wear Indicators) - Brembo P 85 045
Rear brake discs 232mm (pair) - Brembo Max 08.7165.75
Rear brake pads all models - Brembo P 85 020
Is that all compatible and should go fine?
Them parts numbers match what I have listed for 288 fronts with wear indicators. :smiley:
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Awesome thanks for all your help.
I am now going to order!
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Its not letting me pay...
First time something hasnt wanted to take my money!
Was clicking the paypal button was saying it was transferring me and then said proceed to payment, and just went back to the part where it said it was transferring me.
Now its saying my order is complete, but i havent paid yet....
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As long as it comes and its all as it should i will be happy haha
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As long as it comes and its all as it should i will be happy haha
I have sent an invoice via pp (and raised an error with my web provider and pp)
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Ive been comparing your prices with other websites.
I was pleasantly surprised. You are cheaper on most items, especially Brembo Max 08.7165.75.
Nice job.
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Ive been comparing your prices with other websites.
I was pleasantly surprised. You are cheaper on most items, especially Brembo Max 08.7165.75.
Nice job.
That's good to know, I am new dealing with Brembo but they seem to be a popular product. :cool:
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I sent you an email through this because the invoice was sent to my email address not paypal.
I had to use emails for a reason to boring to explain.