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Title: Finally decided
Post by: Jammy1 on 16 March 2014, 08:06
Hi all

I've been loitering on here for months now, but finally ordered a GTD yesterday in red with keyless, high beam assist and park assist.  I'm coming out of company scheme which has now become really expensive.  My mileage has dropped from 30k to 14k so it now makes sense to go private again.  I had one on demo for a few days and thought it was great.

I've currently got a 320d ed E90, which there has been so many problems with I could fill a whole page!  I've actually got a demo 125d this weekend and perversely this made me mind up to head straight for the VW dealer.  The only thing, in my opinion, that's 'better' in the 1 are the seats. You sit lower than the Golf, which I like, and the alcantara is nice and grippy.  Other than that though I preferred the Golf in every way.  The 125d didn't even actually feel much quicker, I'm sure it most definitely is a lot quicker but it didn't feel in different league.

I also looked at the A3 Saloon.  Yes, I know the hatch is directly comparable but I just don't like the looks. All very pleasant inside but just a bit too straight laced, even in s-line trim.

I did wrestle with the GTI vs GTD decision too as I know others on here did. For me it would have been an extra £100 a month to run a PP version.  I also have a TVR for a V8 petrol fix, so for the savings by taking the GTD I can fund my addiction  :grin:

Thanks to all who have been posting over the last 12 months, it's been a great help in helping me make up my mind.  The dealer will be contacting me tomorrow with the order details, the long wait will then begin.

PS
Apologies for the long rambling post.
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: Suklpm on 16 March 2014, 08:35
Good shout.

I went from a (chipped) 120d to a GTI Mk V 6 years ago and I never, ever, ever regretted that decision. Currently  waiting for my Mk VII GTI (BW16) which shows what a good decision I think I made 6 years ago!
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 March 2014, 09:45
After being a little underwhelmed by my GTD, coming from a Scirocco 170TDI that seemed slightly faster (???), it has really grown on me since I got a tuning box. It was the raft of standard features and improved ride that steered me towards the GTD.

If this is your first private buy in a long time with nothing to trade in, are you going the broker route? Make sure you get a great deal either way.
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: Exonian on 16 March 2014, 10:17

Apologies for the long rambling post.

Welcome and no apologies due !!!!

It's always good to hear how people come to their decision as everyone has a different story to tell.

GTDs look great in red. I passed one coming in the opposite direction at sunset the other day and it really stood out amongst all the other traffic.
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 March 2014, 11:11
I'd totally agree with Exonian on the red - it looks great in all lighting conditions and it glows under artificial light at night, it isn't a complete bugger to keep looking clean either. There are surprisingly few red cars on the road less than 5 years old too.
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: Jammy1 on 16 March 2014, 11:47
Thanks guys.  I paid £23,950 including the options in the end. I used drivethedeal as a target price.  The first dealer couldn't get anywhere near.  The second one stated that they couldn't be supplied at the quoted price.  I phoned them in front of him and they confirmed £23,628 was a genuine price. He simply couldn't match that, best was £24k, said I'd shake on £23,900, we split the difference.  I know it's not quite as good as drivethedeal but I might have had to collect from Aberdeen for all I knew (I wouldn't want a driven delivery) so I didn't mind paying an extra £300 ish for a local dealer.  No train fare needed etc.  They are also guaranteeing the PCP rate as I think that finishes soon.

I preferred the white in the GTI but red in the GTD shows off the silver highlights in my opinion.
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: ffrank on 16 March 2014, 12:10
Nicely negotiated Jammy. I did a similar thing on my GTD, managed to get one of the local dealers within £200 of the DTD price (although I probably spent a bit more as I added quite a few extra's post order!) Like yourself, this  seemed worthwhile to me to be picking up from somewhere locally (and probably the garage I will use for servicing too.)

Amusingly 2 other local dealers completely balked at the DTD price.  :shocked:

GTD's seem to be about 13-14 week waits now, not as good as the GTI's but better than the 20 week+ a lot of the guys on here had to wait!
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: 2014GTi on 16 March 2014, 12:56
I did the same with my local dealership, they beat DTD's price :)
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: Exonian on 16 March 2014, 13:08
Sounds a very good deal.

And I'd have to agree with you on the colours and I think VWs advertising department would too as they use the same colours on VWs website!!
Yep, ended up with a white GTI myself but was ummm'ing and ahhh'ing about whether I should get a red GTD but then reminded myself that the whole reason I was moving my mk6 on was the VAQ diff in the GTI!!!!
My wife is currently dragging me around show homes so it's likely we will move soon and the only houses we like (can afford!) are miles away so maybe in a year or two a red GTD will come my way.
Carbon Grey second choice on either!
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: Mark V GTD on 16 March 2014, 14:11
I did the same with my local dealership, they beat DTD's price :)
Never heard of that happening before - unless you got your DtD price on a bad day....
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: ROO1 on 16 March 2014, 17:05
Welcome. I love my GTD - very comfy and economical, I've done 1100 miles in 2 weeks and averaged 50mpg.

The wait is a killer though..

No regrets over not getting a GTI?
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: Jammy1 on 16 March 2014, 18:13
I did the same with my local dealership, they beat DTD's price :)

Damn it! I'll have to give my dealer a hard time now  :grin:
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: 2014GTi on 16 March 2014, 18:25
I did the same with my local dealership, they beat DTD's price :)

Damn it! I'll have to give my dealer a hard time now  :grin:
To be fair I know my pretty well so they went all out to retain my business and supply me the car :)
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: Exonian on 16 March 2014, 18:29
Welcome. I love my GTD - very comfy and economical, I've done 1100 miles in 2 weeks and averaged 50mpg.

The wait is a killer though..

No regrets over not getting a GTI?
I can't see why anyone would regret not getting a GTI if the PP wasn't required.
Balls out the GTI would be a lot quicker but the GTD covers ground just as quick in real life conditions, has likely got a better resale and costs less to run.
I spent a fair bit of time in mk6 GTIs and GTDs and have to say that unless remapped the GTD is a more rewarding car to drive on that chassis as the mk6 GTI lacks torque and is crap on fuel in comparison. Can't see why the mk7 would be any different.

Will take cover behind the sofa now!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: gazmondo35 on 16 March 2014, 18:47
Here is the performance difference gti vs gtd
Golf 7 GTI vs. Golf 7 GTD - 0-220 km/h accelerati…: http://youtu.be/k43_TabNs6Y




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Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: Exonian on 16 March 2014, 19:09
Can't say I ever drive like that!
There's more to moving quickly than standing start acceleration to illegal speeds in a road car.
Mind you I'm old so what do I know...


Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: scotland67 on 17 March 2014, 16:39
Hi all
I have'nt posted for ages but after much thought I have taken the plunge and ordered a new GTi
I kept it simple, 5 door 22obhp in white
I was loathe to part with my cherished 10 reg red GTi with only 27000 miles on it and in mint condition but after a test drive I decided to go ahead
Also I am 71 years old and you cannot take your money with you, if you get my meaning, and interest on savings is useless at the moment
Got part x of £13000 which I think is ok for a 4 year old car and managed to get £1000 of the list price so Im fairly happy
Just did the deal yesterday so awaiting tracking number etc.
Do you think I got a decent deal?
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: CraigW on 17 March 2014, 16:51
Hi all
I have'nt posted for ages but after much thought I have taken the plunge and ordered a new GTi
I kept it simple, 5 door 22obhp in white
I was loathe to part with my cherished 10 reg red GTi with only 27000 miles on it and in mint condition but after a test drive I decided to go ahead
Also I am 71 years old and you cannot take your money with you, if you get my meaning, and interest on savings is useless at the moment
Got part x of £13000 which I think is ok for a 4 year old car and managed to get £1000 of the list price so Im fairly happy
Just did the deal yesterday so awaiting tracking number etc.
Do you think I got a decent deal?

Sounds like a good deal to me. :smiley:.

I hope to be still be driving hot hatches when im your age. Fantastic  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: p3asa on 17 March 2014, 17:33
Yeah that is fantastic.
I've started to count my life down in terms of how many cars I'll be able to have before the inevitable  :grin:

 
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 March 2014, 19:12
Got part x of £13000 which I think is ok for a 4 year old car and managed to get £1000 of the list price so Im fairly happy
Just did the deal yesterday so awaiting tracking number etc.
Do you think I got a decent deal?

Was that Benfield, Pulman or further afield?

I found Benfield to be woeful for p/x offer and offered next to nowt off list (with Silverlink being a lot worse than Scotswood Road) - I went to Pulman Sunderland instead.

I think you got a pretty good price on a 10 plate MK6 GTI (assuming average miles and no significant options like leather, big nav, Xenons) - 50% retained on a 4 year old car is good going.
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: scotland67 on 18 March 2014, 09:35
Hi monkey hanger
Yes this deal was from Benfield Silverlink. But I did go to Pulmanfor a test drive as Benfield had sold their demonstrator. They made Px offer of £1300 with a promise of more off the list price.
Back at Benfield the offer was £12500 quickly raised to £13000. Asked for a cost to change of £13000 and got it. They didn't want me going back to Pulmans I guess.
Yes my car is fairly standard, manual no leather etc but no dings scrapes and unmarked alloys.
I must say thanks to Benfield for an excellent again deal again as it was 4 years ago on the current car.
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 March 2014, 10:37
Hi monkey hanger
Yes this deal was from Benfield Silverlink. But I did go to Pulmanfor a test drive as Benfield had sold their demonstrator. They made Px offer of £1300 with a promise of more off the list price.
Back at Benfield the offer was £12500 quickly raised to £13000. Asked for a cost to change of £13000 and got it. They didn't want me going back to Pulmans I guess.
Yes my car is fairly standard, manual no leather etc but no dings scrapes and unmarked alloys.
I must say thanks to Benfield for an excellent again deal again as it was 4 years ago on the current car.

Maybe they changed their attitudes more recently, but I placed my order with Pulman last Good Friday (days after the order books for GTI/GTD opened) after Benfield Silverlink gave me very short shrift the same day and I witnessed a disgustingly low p/x offer on a very gullible pensioner’s Toyota Yaris against a new UP (they were in the “queue” before me). When the salesman got up to get them a cup of coffee mid-negotiations, I nipped in and suggested that they were getting low-balled on the p/x (£2700 for a mint condition 4 year old Yaris, not particularly high spec, but should have been worth £4000 of anyone’s money) and they should shop around. I said I was heading to Pulman after hearing Silverlink’s offer and they asked if they could follow me up.

We had our discussion and it was RRP, no freebies and a low p/x value or nothing. I did ask them if it was the best they could do, as I was going to Pulman to see what they could offer and wouldn’t be back if their offer was head and shoulders better than Benfield’s. The sales manager at Silverlink just shrugged and said “we’ll see you later”.  I went to Pulman, got a far better deal on the new car and p/x value for the Scirocco, signed there and then. The pensioners got £4200 for their Yaris against an UP, free servicing and a few other freebies.

2 weeks later I was in Silverlink to get my Scirocco serviced and the salesman made a beeline for me. I humoured him to see if he had a better offer. He didn’t, so I told him I’d gone to Pulman and gave details of the deal I got. He asked how much he could offer for me to cancel with Pulman. What a sleaze-ball. I go there for servicing/warranty as they are very close to me in North Shields, but I always shop around, and for the last 2 cars I have gone to Pulman. The one before that I was at Benfield Scotswood Road as they were more open to a haggle than Silverlink were.
Title: Re: Finally decided
Post by: scotland67 on 18 March 2014, 16:07
A very interesting story and maybe shows the importance of getting the right salesman.My guy has never been pushy and he seems genuinely keen to give me a good deal. He is very nice guy to chat to and he always acknowledges me whenever I am in the garage for servicing. I must have been lucky!