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Title: Remap then :(
Post by: Pure Driving Solutions on 12 February 2014, 20:01
So I decided to get the gti remapped and fitted a VWR intake with stage 2 pipe. The car is a 2012 done 19,500 miles and I was really excited about getting to use the extra power. To my massive disappointment the clutch now slips in 4th, 5th and 6th. Has this happened to anyone else, if so what clutch route have you gone down and how much (if you don't mind me asking) or is it back to standard tomorrow :(
Title: Re: Remap then :(
Post by: Poached on 12 February 2014, 20:55
Uprate or replace the clutch, it's not uncommon for clutches to slip with stage 1 or 2. Who knows how it was treated before you bought the car...
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Post by: Rhyso on 12 February 2014, 21:27
Gutting  :sad:

That must have had some abuse!! Mapped plenty of cars with way more mileage and never had a clutch slip so soon after
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Post by: Pure Driving Solutions on 12 February 2014, 21:34
Indeed, I've only had the car a short time.
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Post by: Poached on 12 February 2014, 21:56
Where did you get it mapped?
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Post by: Rossc0 on 12 February 2014, 23:40
Stage 2 is a big power increase though, I'd expect some clutch slippage once you start to edge near 300bhp
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Post by: black-a4 on 13 February 2014, 00:00
When I first mapped my GTI my clutch slipped for 3 to 4 weeks (it was on 60k then).
It slowly disappeared (or my driving style changed) and i drove it to 95k before selling it.
Title: Re: Remap then :(
Post by: Raffe on 13 February 2014, 07:23
My clutch slipped almost immediately after going to stage 2.

Uprated clutch fitted was circa £900 fitted, another £200-300 from memory if your DMF needed changing too.

Gets expensive very quickly but that's the joys of modding....
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Post by: wigit on 13 February 2014, 10:48
have to admit this is one reason why going forward I am opting for dsg, people will shout clutch packs but in reality not heard one but plenty of clutches gone

the slug of torque lower down is the killer on these TSI units, K04 car fair better

upgraded clutch is alway a compromise as pedal is heavier
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Post by: dubber36 on 13 February 2014, 12:31
Better off buying a car with the power you want out of the box in reality.
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Post by: Booth11 on 13 February 2014, 13:28
Better off buying a car with the power you want out of the box in reality.

+1.  That's my philosophy.  I do understand why people go down the modding route though but one thing always leads to another and you need deep pockets.
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Post by: RocketRossUK on 13 February 2014, 14:37
Better off buying a car with the power you want out of the box in reality.

Dont think thats necessarily true. To buy a 300Bhp car less that 4 years old can be very expensive. A standard GTI with a stage 1 map (the way it should come) is perfect and relatively cheap.

Plus I enjoy adding performance parts to my car over the 2-4 years I keep them, it keeps the car fresh and exciting.

If you buy a 300BHP car and do nothing for 4 years you will get board much more quickly.

Back to the OP, ride it out for a while, this is the coldest time of year and clutches always tend to slip more when cold. Wait till spring and re assess. 
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Post by: dubber36 on 13 February 2014, 15:04
I would have agreed with you 10 years ago Ross, but now for me, a car is there to do a job without compromise and unnecessary expense.
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Post by: Raffe on 13 February 2014, 15:26
I would have agreed with you 10 years ago Ross, but now for me, a car is there to do a job without compromise and unnecessary expense.

*cough* why have you remapped your Passat then...... Oh let me guess better mpg :whistle:
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Post by: mwad gti on 13 February 2014, 15:38
:) Fight
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Post by: RocketRossUK on 13 February 2014, 15:48
I would have agreed with you 10 years ago Ross, but now for me, a car is there to do a job without compromise and unnecessary expense.

Have spare money, might as well spend it....cant take it with you!!!
Title: Re: Remap then :(
Post by: Exonian on 13 February 2014, 16:15
Better off buying a car with the power you want out of the box in reality.
Ideally yes but my theory is that it's pointless buying a modern turbo car that drives as dull as ditchwater due to eco friendly factory mapping (be it a 320 bhp M135i or a 210 bhp GTI or TDI or whatever). I think it a bit pointless going past stage 1 when there's a factory standard car producing more power for a similar expenditure that could cheaply be taken to stage 1 tune without upsetting reliability (unless you drive like a twit)
All modern cars are dull to drive, there's hardly any difference in feel between something really quick and a 1.2 TSI, it's just that the speedo goes round a bit quicker and you're hitting the brakes a bit sooner.
A stage 1 tune just gives the car a bit of 'feel'
So I decided to get the gti remapped and fitted a VWR intake with stage 2 pipe. The car is a 2012 done 19,500 miles and I was really excited about getting to use the extra power. To my massive disappointment the clutch now slips in 4th, 5th and 6th. Has this happened to anyone else, if so what clutch route have you gone down and how much (if you don't mind me asking) or is it back to standard tomorrow :(
Ask the tuner to wind the boost back at lower RPM's
Should be an easy fix.
Then don't floor the accelerator at 2000rpm in the higher gears.
The only car I ever had clutch slip on was a remapped 140 TDI many many moons ago. I got the tuner to reduce low RPM boost and it drove just fine ever after.


Stage 1 tunes are the sweet spot for tuning. Go past that and you throw out the balance and have to modify every part of the car to compensate
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Post by: Rhyso on 13 February 2014, 17:05
Better off buying a car with the power you want out of the box in reality.

Yebut where's the fun in that  :whistle: :tongue:

As Exonian says, modern cars out of the factory are generally crap and unexciting to drive

A couple of hundred quid is money well spent but then I would say that  :grin:
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Post by: RocketRossUK on 13 February 2014, 17:41
Better off buying a car with the power you want out of the box in reality.

A couple of hundred quid is money well spent but then I would say that  :grin:

So would everybody else who isnt a drip or has a granpa mentality  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Remap then :(
Post by: dubber36 on 13 February 2014, 17:55
I would have agreed with you 10 years ago Ross, but now for me, a car is there to do a job without compromise and unnecessary expense.

*cough* why have you remapped your Passat then...... Oh let me guess better mpg :whistle:

You got me there Raffe, however in my defence, it is much better at towing.  :wink:


Have spare money, might as well spend it....cant take it with you!!!

But if you don't die as soon as you'd like, you might have to go a long time with no spare money.
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Post by: topher on 13 February 2014, 18:19
I remap an awful lot of MK6 GTIs in various stages of tune. Stage 1 is usually problem free, with stage 2 torque I'd say 50% of them suffer with clutch slip. It all really depends what sort of life the clutch has had but if you drive them like a GTI is supposed to be driven, even the standard cars seem to suffer.
I think it works out around £850 to upgrade to a Sachs organic kit that works with the stock flywheel. They're rated to 407lbft of torque.
Title: Re: Remap then :(
Post by: Pure Driving Solutions on 13 February 2014, 21:26
Cheers guys, new clutch will be ordered next week :)