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Title: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: iandjm on 05 February 2014, 23:12
Hi,

As you probably know I think the Mk7 GTI is totally fantastic, but there is one feature that I cannot understand being missed off the car.  On the MK7 you cannot dial a phone number that is in your phone book, using the steering wheel controls and MFD screen on the instrument cluster.  This was possible in the Mk6 and worked really well, but in the MK7 all you can do is dial missed or previously dialed numbers, not ones from your phone book. The only way  to dial from your phone book is via the head unit screen, which involves a lot of taking your eyes off the road.

I wonder if VW will release a software update to restore this functionality on the instrument cluster MFD?  It seems a real step backwards at present, from the Mk6.

Ian
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: mike77t5 on 05 February 2014, 23:29
Really? That does seem stupid. It works really well in my mk6 also.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: iandjm on 06 February 2014, 00:00
Yep, thats what surprised me, as it worked so well in the Mk6  :sad:
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: Pinky 1959 on 06 February 2014, 08:29
It possibly wont do any good but try writing to VW and state you are very disappointed and are considering going to the papers about it as its obviously not safe .
Just an idea .
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: karlak on 06 February 2014, 08:31
Is there not a voice recognition option ?

Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: GTI-7-Performance on 06 February 2014, 08:37
Is there not a voice recognition option ?
Yep. That's how I dial from my iPhone's contact list...
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: dubber36 on 06 February 2014, 17:43
It seems to take for ever having to scroll through the whole list of contacts in the 6 if you want one that's towards the bottom, perhaps it's quicker to use the touch screen?
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: AlanH on 06 February 2014, 18:07
I seem to remember in my Mk6 GTD that I could use the up and down buttons to scroll from either the start or the end of the alphabet. A long push of the button would skip to the next letter in the alphabet - in other words straight from B to C without scrolling through all the B entries.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: Booth11 on 06 February 2014, 18:36
I seem to remember in my Mk6 GTD that I could use the up and down buttons to scroll from either the start or the end of the alphabet. A long push of the button would skip to the next letter in the alphabet - in other words straight from B to C without scrolling through all the B entries.

Yes that is the case in the mk6.  Can scroll from either end of alphabet and holding down the up or down arrow jumps it to next letter.

Bit of a backward step if you can't do this in the mk7.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: AlanH on 06 February 2014, 18:42
It is a major backward step, particularly as an incoming call displays in the MFD, and can be ended there too.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: Mark V GTD on 06 February 2014, 19:18
It seems to take for ever having to scroll through the whole list of contacts in the 6 if you want one that's towards the bottom, perhaps it's quicker to use the touch screen?
If you use the up key on the steering wheel it starts scrolling from the bottom - so only the entries in the middle take a bit of time to get to!
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: Sootchucker on 06 February 2014, 19:19
Totally agree with the above, bloody stupid and dangerous. According to the chaps over at Motortalk.de, this "feature" is available if you have the advanced phone prep (which we don't have in the UK - we have standard and optional comfort).

Also, anyone noticed that it actually takes quite a long time for the system to hang up a call and revert back to whatever music source was playing ? In the scirocco, it was pretty immediate (say about a second or so) after pressing the end call button, whereas in my GTD, it takes about 7-10 seconds for it to hang up and revert back to music.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: iandjm on 06 February 2014, 19:41
I think this one may warrant campaigning against Vw for a software upgrade, on the grounds of safety.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: Flintymutt on 07 February 2014, 06:21
Forgive me if I've got tho wrong but is it not the same when scrolling for music via an iPod? I find the system really rubbish when looking for an album. I had I drive a few years back which was just a joy to navigate.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: GTI7me on 07 February 2014, 08:35
Totally agree with the above, bloody stupid and dangerous. According to the chaps over at Motortalk.de, this "feature" is available if you have the advanced phone prep (which we don't have in the UK - we have standard and optional comfort).

Also, anyone noticed that it actually takes quite a long time for the system to hang up a call and revert back to whatever music source was playing ? In the scirocco, it was pretty immediate (say about a second or so) after pressing the end call button, whereas in my GTD, it takes about 7-10 seconds for it to hang up and revert back to music.

Mine is pretty instant to be honest Sootchucker. Never had a problem with it.

I have had lots of people of the other end of the phone while i'm driving complaining about my "sh!tty hands free" though.

J
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: Mark V GTD on 07 February 2014, 09:41
According to the chaps over at Motortalk.de, this "feature" is available if you have the advanced phone prep (which we don't have in the UK - we have standard and optional comfort).
There is a feature in the options list called 'Advanced Phone Preparation'.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: jivemonkey on 07 February 2014, 09:49
I thought this was only for the signal boosting tech in the centre armrest cubby? I have this, so will check if I can browse my phone book..can't say I've ever needed to thought (or on the Mk6) as it's generally easier for me to just use my phone. Either that or the person is in my recent call list.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: Millzy68 on 07 February 2014, 13:21
To be honest this is the first car I've had with this sort of tech, and I thought it was just me not setting things up correctly. With the emphasis on safety, these days, I can't believe vw  have set the phone system up this way.  Is the 'voice recognition' feature only available with the advanced phone prep ? I can't seem to set it up.  I've had to resort to 'one belling' my contacts so that they appear in my recent calls list on the instrument cluster  :whistle: Do we think vw will listen to complaints regarding this?
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: jivemonkey on 07 February 2014, 13:35
I thought this was only for the signal boosting tech in the centre armrest cubby? I have this, so will check if I can browse my phone book..can't say I've ever needed to thought (or on the Mk6) as it's generally easier for me to just use my phone. Either that or the person is in my recent call list.

I have checked and it's the same for me, even with advanced phone prep, no matter what buttons I press I can only get to the recent/ missed/ all calls list - not my address book.

I think voice activation is an option? I know it's not standard, that's for sure.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: kevinm on 07 February 2014, 17:28
I think sootchucker is referring to the premium bluetooth.
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: TheCarMadDad on 07 February 2014, 21:53
This maybe totally irrelevant but....

My Toyota has bluetooth phone prep and when stationary I can go through the phone book and call a number. However when moving above 12mph (iirc) the phone book function is disabled and the only numbers you can call is last dialled numbers and speed dial numbers.

Could this be the same with the VW system? I can't check yet as I'm still waiting for delivery

Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: Mark V GTD on 07 February 2014, 22:50
I think sootchucker is referring to the premium bluetooth.
Kevin - not heard of such an option in the UK! Can you tell us more about it please?
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: iandjm on 08 February 2014, 03:10
This maybe totally irrelevant but....

My Toyota has bluetooth phone prep and when stationary I can go through the phone book and call a number. However when moving above 12mph (iirc) the phone book function is disabled and the only numbers you can call is last dialled numbers and speed dial numbers.

Could this be the same with the VW system? I can't check yet as I'm still waiting for delivery

Hi,  Sadly the menu is not there even when stationary  :cry:

Ian
Title: Re: How could something so simple be missed off?
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 February 2014, 07:04
Kevin's right, I meant premium Bluetooth - oops  :laugh:

It's a minimum requirement for VW's car net system, which gives you access to googlemaps, live traffic data, weather etc. as well as creating a wifi hot spot in the car. Additionally it has an extra sim slot in the glovebox in between the 2 SD card slots.

Like I say, VW UK don't bring this system (yet) to the Uk so we don't have it.