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General => General discussion => Topic started by: spudboy6 on 05 February 2014, 16:48
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I'm looking for a new car but undecided on what to get ,
My budget is 4 but want to spend sub 4k if I can but that's my max
So far I've viewed
2003 seat leon cupra r -210 £3500
Others I'm considering
Civic type r 01-05
Ibiza cupra
Just wondering what else I could consider as when I search I can't find anything 3-4k near swindon that's around 80k with a good history ect
I have considered the vr6 mk3 but want something more modern and mk4s don't do it for me
So what do you recommend me , and yes I know this is a golf forum before you all hunt me down lol
Thanks
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Clio with Cup packs.
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Have a look at this, imho you not gunna find many cars that are more fun than this, also it will put a smile on your face as not much will keep up with it being 0-62 in 6.6 sec.
Good points
* Handles amazing
* Very fast
* Full service history
* Good mileage only 50k
* Registered 2005
* Xeons
* Lovely interior
Bad points
* Might be abit out of your way
* Will hurt your wallet on fuel
* Colour = impossible to keep clean
* Gear stick in horrible place
* Right on the end of your budget
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201401311460457/sort/default/usedcars/keywords/type%20r/maximum-mileage/up_to_60000_miles/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/model/civic/fuel-type/petrol/postcode/cf55dd/page/1/radius/1501/make/honda/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l?logcode=p
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Not a clio fan never trusted Renault ,
The civic type r is probably second choice after a cupra r but if that was closer I would have gone for a nosey but 123miles is too far for me probably 50-60 miles is my max distance for looking at cars
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I test drove a Civic in 2002. It was a blast, but something told me it would get tiresome. I bought a Leon Cupra instead and loved it.
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focus st-2 or you might find an st-3 :wink:
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Honda civic type r ep3 would be the only car I would consider around 200bhp
But you can get a evo for 4k and a m3 evo with 320bhp for that. And trust me they make hot hatches cold
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But you can get a evo for 4k and a m3 evo with 320bhp for that. And trust me they make hot hatches cold
Running costs not *really* in the same league, though, are they?
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But you can get a evo for 4k and a m3 evo with 320bhp for that. And trust me they make hot hatches cold
Running costs not *really* in the same league, though, are they?
Unfortunately not. Ive come to the conclusion that everything for the bmw cost £300 or more :sad:
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Yea I still would like to maintain 30 mpg when I i occasionally drive carefully ,
I wouldn't say no to a fast saloon to be fair just the cupra r caught my eye and that got me looking at hot hatches
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mazda/mazda3-mps/mazda-mazda-3-mps-aero-sports-------------2007/1988314
Over budget, but 260bhp :)
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mazda/mazda6-mps/mazda-6-mps-56-plate-2006/1988529
Not a hatch but a total beast. AWD and 260bhp.
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/audi/s3/audi-s3-quattro-rare-grey-low-millage-miltek-stage-1-2001/1958903
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What about the other place that the 2.0 TFSI engine ends up?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201312160548899/sort/default/usedcars/postcode/se77nq/radius/1500/page/2/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/make/skoda/keywords/vrs/model/octavia/price-to/4000?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201312160548899/sort/default/usedcars/postcode/se77nq/radius/1500/page/2/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/make/skoda/keywords/vrs/model/octavia/price-to/4000?logcode=p)
Upsides:
Practical
Good value
Low mileage
Tuneable VW engine
Downsides
Not as desirable
Bigger, maybe not as nimble as a hatch.
A bit "grown-up"
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Seat-Ibiza-cupra-1-8-20v-Turbo-/181108763249?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a2aec6a71
Cant believe how cheap they are, got me thinking now! Can tune it up/tart it up and still have change!
Plus being the 1.8t its reliable, can be good on fuel and parts are a doddle to scource :smiley:
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For me you can't beat a turbocharged motor for an every day car. You can pootle around and get high 30's mpg or press on at 7-8 tenths without making a fuss and drawing attention to yourself, or have a complete blast when no one else is looking.
With the Civic you only have 2 options. Pootle around with no torque on tap, or scream everywhere at 8,000+ revs to make progress, but make yourself look like a dick when you overtake a couple of cars.
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Has to be the EP3, I have the pleasure of driving one. Apart from being a little too big there is not much I can say that is bad about them. The gear stick actually grows on you and I bet after an hour you will think it was a genius idea!
Go for the EP3 and never look back!
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Quite like the look of that mazda 6 mps ,
Ibiza cupra I find it hard to get a low millage one in good condition
I used to like the skodas but they don't appeal to me anymore
I'm going to go drive a civic this weekend and see if I can find a mps aswell
But got some bad news today that honda are having another job cut at the factory next month so not sure if I can afford a new car if that happens but still continuing my search as of yet
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But got some bad news today that honda are having another job cut at the factory next month so not sure if I can afford a new car if that happens but still continuing my search as of yet
Is that because the Civic isn't selling that well? I was looking round the new Civic estate that my mate from Honda drives round in. They have high hopes for it, but I'm not so sure.
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Quite like the look of that mazda 6 mps ,
Ibiza cupra I find it hard to get a low millage one in good condition
I used to like the skodas but they don't appeal to me anymore
I'm going to go drive a civic this weekend and see if I can find a mps aswell
But got some bad news today that honda are having another job cut at the factory next month so not sure if I can afford a new car if that happens but still continuing my search as of yet
Mate - go for the MPS, it's a complete animal. You won't be disappointed. Low insurance too considering the power.
Only really two things to watch out for with them - some suffer VVT issues. Very easy to diagnose, simply start cold with bonnet open and windows open and listen for what sounds like a chain Hitting plastic. If that's the case, it's got VVT issues. The sound lasts about 1-2 seconds and will cost around 600-700 to fix at somewhere like totalMPS. It's a rare issue though.
Second is a smokey turbo. Idle it for 10 minutes, if it's smoking then walk away. Sign of it not being looked after/cooled down/warmed up.
Other than that, try are totally bonkers quick and so much fun. I have a 3MPS and it's by far the best car choice I've ever made. The power delivery hits like a sledge hammer.
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Quite like the look of that mazda 6 mps ,
Ibiza cupra I find it hard to get a low millage one in good condition
I used to like the skodas but they don't appeal to me anymore
I'm going to go drive a civic this weekend and see if I can find a mps aswell
But got some bad news today that honda are having another job cut at the factory next month so not sure if I can afford a new car if that happens but still continuing my search as of yet
Mate - go for the MPS, it's a complete animal. You won't be disappointed. Low insurance too considering the power.
Only really two things to watch out for with them - some suffer VVT issues. Very easy to diagnose, simply start cold with bonnet open and windows open and listen for what sounds like a chain Hitting plastic. If that's the case, it's got VVT issues. The sound lasts about 1-2 seconds and will cost around 600-700 to fix at somewhere like totalMPS. It's a rare issue though.
Second is a smokey turbo. Idle it for 10 minutes, if it's smoking then walk away. Sign of it not being looked after/cooled down/warmed up.
Other than that, try are totally bonkers quick and so much fun. I have a 3MPS and it's by far the best car choice I've ever made. The power delivery hits like a sledge hammer.
they are far from a complete animal :grin: :grin:
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Quite like the look of that mazda 6 mps ,
Ibiza cupra I find it hard to get a low millage one in good condition
I used to like the skodas but they don't appeal to me anymore
I'm going to go drive a civic this weekend and see if I can find a mps aswell
But got some bad news today that honda are having another job cut at the factory next month so not sure if I can afford a new car if that happens but still continuing my search as of yet
Mate - go for the MPS, it's a complete animal. You won't be disappointed. Low insurance too considering the power.
Only really two things to watch out for with them - some suffer VVT issues. Very easy to diagnose, simply start cold with bonnet open and windows open and listen for what sounds like a chain Hitting plastic. If that's the case, it's got VVT issues. The sound lasts about 1-2 seconds and will cost around 600-700 to fix at somewhere like totalMPS. It's a rare issue though.
Second is a smokey turbo. Idle it for 10 minutes, if it's smoking then walk away. Sign of it not being looked after/cooled down/warmed up.
Other than that, try are totally bonkers quick and so much fun. I have a 3MPS and it's by far the best car choice I've ever made. The power delivery hits like a sledge hammer.
they are far from a complete animal :grin: :grin:
For the price per BHP they're practically a T-Rex mate.
Decent AWD system, 2.3 DISI turbo and 260 bhp in a modern comfortable car - really no arguing there.
Obviously, it's no RS6, but for the price and reliability I don't think it's easy to beat.
My 3 is an animal. Try flooring that in the wet and going straight. Torque steer... That's where AWD comes into it's own.
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Quite like the look of that mazda 6 mps ,
Ibiza cupra I find it hard to get a low millage one in good condition
I used to like the skodas but they don't appeal to me anymore
I'm going to go drive a civic this weekend and see if I can find a mps aswell
But got some bad news today that honda are having another job cut at the factory next month so not sure if I can afford a new car if that happens but still continuing my search as of yet
Mate - go for the MPS, it's a complete animal. You won't be disappointed. Low insurance too considering the power.
Only really two things to watch out for with them - some suffer VVT issues. Very easy to diagnose, simply start cold with bonnet open and windows open and listen for what sounds like a chain Hitting plastic. If that's the case, it's got VVT issues. The sound lasts about 1-2 seconds and will cost around 600-700 to fix at somewhere like totalMPS. It's a rare issue though.
Second is a smokey turbo. Idle it for 10 minutes, if it's smoking then walk away. Sign of it not being looked after/cooled down/warmed up.
Other than that, try are totally bonkers quick and so much fun. I have a 3MPS and it's by far the best car choice I've ever made. The power delivery hits like a sledge hammer.
they are far from a complete animal :grin: :grin:
For the price per BHP they're practically a T-Rex mate.
Decent AWD system, 2.3 DISI turbo and 260 bhp in a modern comfortable car - really no arguing there.
Obviously, it's no RS6, but for the price and reliability I don't think it's easy to beat.
My 3 is an animal. Try flooring that in the wet and going straight. Torque steer... That's where AWD comes into it's own.
old evo 6s an the like can be had for the same money an 1 of them would destroy a mps 3 or 6 :wink:
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Then destroy itself. Not the easiest to maintain.. :rolleyes:
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Then destroy itself. Not the easiest to maintain.. :rolleyes:
most of them are reliable if looked after :smiley:
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Then destroy itself. Not the easiest to maintain.. :rolleyes:
most of them are reliable if looked after :smiley:
So is any car really, but the stringent maintenance schedule mounts up in costs and is a bi too much (IMO) for a daily. I actually love the cars and even considered them but for me the MPS was a better overall package and far more forgiving on the maintenance side of things.
To each there own, but for the price, age, mileage, performance and reliability, you'll be hard pushed to find a better car than the 6MPS
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Then destroy itself. Not the easiest to maintain.. :rolleyes:
most of them are reliable if looked after :smiley:
So is any car really, but the stringent maintenance schedule mounts up in costs and is a bi too much (IMO) for a daily. I actually love the cars and even considered them but for me the MPS was a better overall package and far more forgiving on the maintenance side of things.
To each there own, but for the price, age, mileage, performance and reliability, you'll be hard pushed to find a better car than the 6MPS
it will still be a mazda though :wink:
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Rx7 was a great mazda
Mx5 was a laugh
So there not the worst out there !
Right I'm back on with the hunt now got the cash sorted YOLO and all that
Viewing a cupra tomorrow afternoon will look a mps now !
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So is any car really, but the stringent maintenance schedule mounts up in costs and is a bi too much (IMO) for a daily. I actually love the cars and even considered them but for me the MPS was a better overall package and far more forgiving on the maintenance side of things.
To each there own, but for the price, age, mileage, performance and reliability, you'll be hard pushed to find a better car than the 6MPS
Until you get it serviced or repaired by Mazda, most smaller garages will not touch them, we used to run standard Mazda 6's in work and the service costs were bonkers.
Mazda 3 is Ford Focus underneath btw and can be cheaper to run, the one big issue with the Mazda 6 is that they rust, I looked at a few 07 plates last year and they were all rotten on the rear arches and sills.
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Go for a Passat!
Like my 1.8t and a trip to Rtech! That gives you 200bhp! :smug:
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Yea I still would like to maintain 30 mpg when I i occasionally drive carefully ,
I wouldn't say no to a fast saloon to be fair just the cupra r caught my eye and that got me looking at hot hatches
Dont forget about the bmw vanos system. (Cam timing) the 3.0 m3 is single vanos and 280bhp the 3.2 m3 is dual vanos and 320bhp. First stage is at 2500rpm then its at 5000rpm. You can feel two kicks as the cam timing changes. So basically if you keep it below 2500rpm its super efficient. And with 6th gear being really long (190mph) its not hard to keep it below 2500rpm.
When I bought it the previous owner averaged 41mpg. I think thats awesome from a straight six 3.2.
ive got it above 40 many times when taking it easy.
If you service them yourself its not too expensive. Ive only spent a lot on mine because I plan on keeping it so been buying genuine parts to get it in mint condition.
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So is any car really, but the stringent maintenance schedule mounts up in costs and is a bi too much (IMO) for a daily. I actually love the cars and even considered them but for me the MPS was a better overall package and far more forgiving on the maintenance side of things.
To each there own, but for the price, age, mileage, performance and reliability, you'll be hard pushed to find a better car than the 6MPS
Until you get it serviced or repaired by Mazda, most smaller garages will not touch them, we used to run standard Mazda 6's in work and the service costs were bonkers.
Mazda 3 is Ford Focus underneath btw and can be cheaper to run, the one big issue with the Mazda 6 is that they rust, I looked at a few 07 plates last year and they were all rotten on the rear arches and sills.
Hmm haven't experienced that tbh, but I have a 3, which as you said is a focus chassis.
I speak to a lot of guys on the MPSOC with 6MPS and have never heard anything like what you're saying.
OP - ultimately it's up to you, get the car you want but I'm confident once you've tried an MPS you'll be sold ;)
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Go for a Passat!
Like my 1.8t and a trip to Rtech! That gives you 200bhp! :smug:
Is that from the 150 engine Len ? Mpg and it still a quick car ?
@len - Also I met up with a member in Newbury last weekend and he gave me some spark plugs to give you and a pulley ??
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I had a 02 civic type r which I did like but needed to be used hard to feel quick...was all over my friends mk5 golf gti on track which was in stock form.On the other hand I did have trouble shacking a fabia vrs which im starting to like.
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I'm viewing a 2005 cupra r on Tuesday this will be the 5th I've viewed now hope its clean !
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* Gear stick in horrible place
Disagree with that, gear stick is in exactly the tight place....feels very natural and works really well.
That said the steering is its weak point and you'll have far more fun in an Integra Type R, look for a JDM '96 spec.
Just watch the rust, gearbox synchros and clutches....
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Go for a Passat!
Like my 1.8t and a trip to Rtech! That gives you 200bhp! :smug:
Is that from the 150 engine Len ? Mpg and it still a quick car ?
@len - Also I met up with a member in Newbury last weekend and he gave me some spark plugs to give you and a pulley ??
Yes and it is now a VERY quick car!
For me? Pulley and spark plugs?? I know nothing! :huh:
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Go for a Passat!
Like my 1.8t and a trip to Rtech! That gives you 200bhp! :smug:
Is that from the 150 engine Len ? Mpg and it still a quick car ?
Yes and it is now a VERY quick car!
As a Passat owner for many years, I feel that I'm qualified to say that it will still handle like a barge tho'. It's also a pretty heavy car. My B5.5 V6 TDI was modded to around 200bhp, but I wouldn't call it VERY quick at all.
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Just hacked a leon across Germany, not a cupra but still a hateful piece of crap.
The seat in the airport lounge is more comfortable and rattles less, I would avoid even the sporty models.
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EP3 CTR are fine in the steering department on the later years, and my 52 plate was far tighter than my mk5 or ED30. That said they drive harsh, on or off as has been said there is no build up. It's balls out or granny style. And the gear stick although taking some time to not reach down makes brilliant sense for quick changes. Gearbox is tighter than a mk5 or Leon having driven my mates Cupra. Brakes are a little small for my taste and no traction control can make it fun come snow. But as put the box silly tight hot hatch its a killer. But has to be driven hard and does make it obvious.
That's the driving side. But the trip is terrible. Easy to maintain yes, but not very tactile. Seats can be creaky, mine wasn't bad but mates 05 was noisy. Stereo is sh!te. But can chain and Honda reliability make running costs quite low. They do eat oil when pushed. Not as much as the TFSI but similar. Parts are not cheap. But neither are VW. Or Mazda, or BMW.
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Go for a Passat!
Like my 1.8t and a trip to Rtech! That gives you 200bhp! :smug:
Is that from the 150 engine Len ? Mpg and it still a quick car ?
Yes and it is now a VERY quick car!
As a Passat owner for many years, I feel that I'm qualified to say that it will still handle like a barge tho'. It's also a pretty heavy car. My B5.5 V6 TDI was modded to around 200bhp, but I wouldn't call it VERY quick at all.
Well mine is a 1.8t Sport which has better suspension and slightly lighter engine so makes a bit of a difference.
This is my second Passat first one I had for 3 years and was remapped again by Rtech to approx 190bhp.
This newer one has now made 200bhp and Rtech's RR is conservative.
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Go for a Passat!
Like my 1.8t and a trip to Rtech! That gives you 200bhp! :smug:
Is that from the 150 engine Len ? Mpg and it still a quick car ?
Yes and it is now a VERY quick car!
As a Passat owner for many years, I feel that I'm qualified to say that it will still handle like a barge tho'. It's also a pretty heavy car. My B5.5 V6 TDI was modded to around 200bhp, but I wouldn't call it VERY quick at all.
Well mine is a 1.8t Sport which has better suspension and slightly lighter engine so makes a bit of a difference.
This is my second Passat first one I had for 3 years and was remapped again by Rtech to approx 190bhp.
This newer one has now made 200bhp and Rtech's RR is conservative.
your missing the fact its not a hatchback :wink: oh and they are still slow with a map
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I would pick an Octavia vRS over a Passat tbh
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I would pick an Octavia vRS over a Passat tbh
+1 if I wanted a car that could be pushed harder.
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A clio 182 cup would make both passat and octavia look slow.
Hot hatch here not big heavy saloons
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Never been a fan of French cars or is the reliability issues all wife's tales ?
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PM me if you are interested in looking at a Leon Cupra R 60k ish miles. VGC.
Reading area.
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Never been a fan of French cars or is the reliability issues all wife's tales ?
Im not it was a example. The old french cars were bad. 205 106 saxo etc but the modern ones aint so bad. I have drove one a few times. And they are very fun to drive. Hate to say it but a lot more fun than a golf turbo. They are great on track too.
Why dont you go on youtube and type in any car you are considering with track day on the end. So start with clio 182 track day.
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A golf mk4 4motion? 4wd system and a nice sounding v6. Push about 205bhp too. Got to be top of list for me as a 200bhp mark hot hatch..thats why i have one :grin:
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A golf mk4 4motion? 4wd system and a nice sounding v6. Push about 205bhp too. Got to be top of list for me as a 200bhp mark hot hatch..thats why i have one :grin:
I bet that eats fuel ! What's your average mpg I have considered a 4mo just heard there dreadful on fuel and not that fast either
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Honestly it is not as bad as i heard... the 6 speed box helps.. on motorways see easy low to mid 30's and around town averages about 20-25mpg. Not bad for a 2.8 v6 i think.. my mapped mk4 gti was not that far off them figures.
Need to own one to realise there not that bad on fuel i guess :grin:
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Never been a fan of French cars or is the reliability issues all wife's tales ?
I had a Renault 21 that I had for 4 years and did approx 40k miles in and no problems
A Peugeot 405 GTX that did over 70k miles with me and never let me down
My Pug 405 Mi16 has done over 50k miles with me and only let me down once when the alternator packed up.
Yes with all of them I had issues due to the high mileage like wheel bearings and driveshafts but those are just normal replacements.
So in my experience wives tales indeed.
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I had a Peugeot 405 SRI. It had done 100k when I bought it. It had rattly trim and felt a bit loose, but after another 60k it never let me down and never got any worse.
I followed that with a Citroen ZX Volcane. That was even better, although I didn't keep it that long due to getting a new job with a company car.
Go to France and all they drive are French cars. They are all fairly low spec cars tho'. I think the French do cheap, basic cars really well. It's when you get higher up the spec list with more things that can break that they struggle.
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i replaced my mk3 with an lcr..looked at all the hot hatch options and the cupra r ticks most of the boxes for me...hard to beat really..respond really well to tuning if your interested in that, 250 +bhp from stage 1..plus they dont attract much attention as you dont need to drive the nuts off them to get the performance
Brian
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Right guys still not found a car yet eek money is just burning a hole in my pocket !
I've started looking at starlet glanza turbos now around 96-99
Anyone ever had one ?
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My mate had one and rebuilt the engine twice and had two turbos go too. Put it this way if your gonna get one of them then you may as well get a evo 4 or a Scooby wrx
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Or a pulsar but old 90's turbo cars are not reliable, especially when they are 1.3's :grin:
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Or a pulsar but old 90's turbo cars are not reliable, especially when they are 1.3's :grin:
pulsar is not a 1.3 :wink:
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Or a pulsar but old 90's turbo cars are not reliable, especially when they are 1.3's :grin:
pulsar is not a 1.3 :wink:
No f**king sh!t :rolleyes:
Hes on about glanza 1.3 turbo and so was I.
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Or a pulsar but old 90's turbo cars are not reliable, especially when they are 1.3's :grin:
pulsar is not a 1.3 :wink:
No f**king sh!t :rolleyes:
Hes on about glanza 1.3 turbo and so was I.
thought you meant a pulsar cause it was in the same post :wink:
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Pulsars are not cheap and getting very rare now
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Still in his 4k budget
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Type R?
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Not a big fan of type r's now I've looked at a few
£4k gets you a late glanza running around 200bhp
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£4k gets you a late glanza running around 200bhp
It seems like a potential whole heap of trouble to me. It's age, initial history from the other side of the world and lack of off the shelf parts for them would put me off having one as a daily car that has to be relied on. Then you'll have the issue of finding someone to buy it when you have finished with it.
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S2000?
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Not a big fan of type r's now I've looked at a few
£4k gets you a late glanza running around 200bhp
Are you being serious? Its a 1.3 with 200bhp! My mates was 220bhp and blew up twice!!
Be cheaper to run a e36 m3 evo that has 320bhp and still does 40mpg
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S2000 is one of my must own cars in my life but still want 4/5 seats still for a fewer a years
Got to the point of Fed up now can't decide what I want so may just let it take a back seat for a while instead of checking online for a new car every day ,
Depends on his spec. If your going 200+ you need the forged engine and the 1.5 bottom end
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just over 4k will buy you my 2005 audi a3 2.0t with 200bhp :smiley:
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PM me if you are interested in looking at a Leon Cupra R 60k ish miles. VGC.
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Has you spoke to mr o?
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Yes I did , coincidentally my friend works at that garage as I'm a henley/ reading boy
Anyways went down and nobody knew how much it was for sale at
Waited hours for the boss to come back and he eventually told me it had about 60-70 k on it and wanted £6k so I said no thanks because there in eBay with that millage for 4.5-5.5 max !
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F@ck me. A seat Leon Cupra r went for £750 here not so long ago with service history.
I was beginning to think they re ŵorth peanuts