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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: ksab on 31 January 2014, 11:52
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I'm looking to buy my first Golf GTI. My budget goes up to about £1800. I have looked on Autotrader and noticed most of the 1.8 GTI'S HAVE 150hp. I was just wondering given the age of the car and use etc, is it likely that a few horses may have escaped over the years?
I remember watching an episode of Top Gear where they bought some older cars and they'd lost a lot of HP.
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Majority of them are 150bhp from factory thats why mate. There was a 180bhp version with a 6 speed box. They dont come up often tho.
You could easily map a 150 to 190-210 depending on engine code.
Aum had a ko3s turbo and agu had ko3.
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As above however to answer your question. In short, yes they will lose Hp like any aged car.
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mine made 157 on 99 ron fuel Wednesday.. no performance enhancing mods but stuff recently replaced like all the pipes and dv valve to a forge, so I suppose it depends on the car and how well it has been maintained etc. mines an aum engine code.
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my old 4mo had 195k on the clock an still pulled like a train :laugh: mileage means nothing if a car has been looked after :wink:
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Some will make more power as they age a bit! Some will lose some. All depends how they're looked after.
Classic case, my boss had a banger Rover 216 and a customer had basically the same car but immaculate and a higher up trim level, same engine.
Bosses had been round the clock and this other old guy was on 22k. The 22k one was absolutely gutless as all of it's 11 years of life it had been poodled round. Literally did not want to rev.
Bosses was quite nippy.
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As above however to answer your question. In short, yes they will lose Hp like any aged car.
I'd have to disagree with that statement i'm afraid.
Providing it's in good condition, and well looked after (serviced as it should be an all vacuum lines in order), I'd expect a 200k mile AGU to still be making 150bhp or more.
These engines are remarkably good at covering high mileages, my original AGU engine had done over 216 000 miles when i removed it, with over half that spent at 230bhp, and the final year spent at 300bhp without issue.
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As above however to answer your question. In short, yes they will lose Hp like any aged car.
I'd have to disagree with that statement i'm afraid.
Providing it's in good condition, and well looked after (serviced as it should be an all vacuum lines in order), I'd expect a 200k mile AGU to still be making 150bhp or more.
These engines are remarkably good at covering high mileages, my original AGU engine had done over 216 000 miles when i removed it, with over half that spent at 230bhp, and the final year spent at 300bhp without issue.
Agreed, almost all of the pre-map dyno runs I've seen for 1.8t's have made at least 150bhp.
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hmm in that case i need to dyno my car and see what shes running.
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hmm in that case i need to dyno my car and see what shes running.
get a before and after while getting some r-tech magic :wink:
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Mine made 155bhp standard on Carbon's rollers
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Mine made 148 pre R-tech.
Nick said it was due to the old girl doing to many paper rounds :laugh:
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my agu went from 150-180-251 :grin:
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My 100k AGU has excellent compression over all 4 and made 160 hp on midland Vw rollers.
185hp after map.
That was as it rolled out the factory with supermarket fuel.
Definitely feels quicker with all the usual bolt on bits and always Vpower.
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16yr old AGU and going very strong... albeit I paid less than half your budget :wink:
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My 100k AGU has excellent compression over all 4 and made 160 hp on midland Vw rollers.
185hp after map.
That was as it rolled out the factory with supermarket fuel.
Definitely feels quicker with all the usual bolt on bits and always Vpower.
I agree, just a couple of days ago my AGU with 100k on the clock made 165bhp before any sort of map on midland vw rollers. Made 189bhp after map. Also it doesn't have any mods except a cheap ebay resonated catback.
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My 100k AGU has excellent compression over all 4 and made 160 hp on midland Vw rollers.
185hp after map.
That was as it rolled out the factory with supermarket fuel.
Definitely feels quicker with all the usual bolt on bits and always Vpower.
I agree, just a couple of days ago my AGU with 100k on the clock made 165bhp before any sort of map on midland vw rollers. Made 189bhp after map. Also it doesn't have any mods except a cheap ebay resonated catback.
After checking my turbo is in good condition. No cracks. Wastegate however is a little weak. Needed some preload.
Issues i had was heatsoak.
However i have thrashed it on the road and logged through VCDS. Inlet temps aren't too bad, quick to reduce, and absolutely no pulling on the timing. A good map.