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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: orcades on 29 January 2014, 03:00
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Hello All,
I've specced High Beam Assist - and whilst it works okay a lot of the time - it seems at times to be a bit slow at dipping the headlights. Is it possible to adjust some setting to make it dip the headlights a bit sooner.
It works okay - bit I'd prefer if it dipped the headlights a bit sooner.
Thanks
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I thought it was just supposed to "assist" you if you forgot to dip main beam. But you should still be dipping them yourself as you are likely to see lights approaching from around corners. Then again I've never speeded it on a car so not actually sure how it works.
This could explain why a lot of people seem to be slow dipping their beams on the roads..
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Interesting angle, but I'm with the OP on this. The description on the VW website certainly suggests it is indeed a driver assistant, but more in respect of doing it for you and 'making it safer' by removing the requirement to keep 'constantly switching from high to dipped beam'.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/comfort-and-convenience/high-beam-assist (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/comfort-and-convenience/high-beam-assist)
If it was only intended to be a 'back up' system in case you forgot, then wouldn''t it always be enabled and only turn the main beam off, and not back on? Plus, I'm sure if you toggle the main beam a few times you actually disable the High Beam Assist entirely. Could be wrong there though.
Back to the OP, I also think it's a little slow, only a second or so, but could certainly be a little quicker. Don't use it much anyway as my route is well lit.
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I have this on my current car (Mk3 Focus). It came as part of a driver assist pack with other bits.
I have actually switch mine off now. I found that depending on the road angle and sometimes from behind a vehicle the lights would not dim automatically, so giving the other driver Full Xenon beam.
But, the last time I used it and have since switched off, was when I had gave the full beam treatment to a Police traffic car. He was heading towards me where we both going into a steep dip in the road - my car sensor didnt pick up his lights for some reason, so went full beam :whistle:
Another piece of great tech, which I don't think is perfect for all road conditions. The Focus has three settings of sensitivity, but tbh they all seem pretty similar to me. Also, found the lights would dip when sometimes heading towards road signs....
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Actually I think this works really well (at least on my GTD it does). Seems to go from dipped to high and back to dip very quickly as soon as headlights / tail lights or street lights are detected.
In the 4 months I've had the car, I can only recall one situation where it delayed dipping by a second or so for an oncoming car, but as I said most of the time, it's perfect and can switch faster than I can manually.
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Actually I think this works really well (at least on my GTD it does). Seems to go from dipped to high and back to dip very quickly as soon as headlights / tail lights or street lights are detected.
In the 4 months I've had the car, I can only recall one situation where it delayed dipping by a second or so for an oncoming car, but as I said most of the time, it's perfect and can switch faster than I can manually.
Hmm..interesting. I definitely can see oncoming traffic for a good second before the dipped beams come on. Might have to go for a nice long drive this evening just to make sure :grin:
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Thanks for the replies. When I added High Beam Assist to the spec, I was under the impression it would work 99.9% of the time and dip the lights. In practice it seems to work great for 90% of the time, it's just a second or two too slow at other times.
With High Beam Assist activated dipping the lights manually seems to take an extra movement of the column stalk. Doesn't sound much but it's a pain when you have to override High Beam Assist at the last minute to dip the headlights. Perhaps I'm expecting too much of the system.
Regards,
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Works pretty reliable on my estate. Mind you that it also has cornering lights, so in a corner it tends to anyway point the lights just off the centre to the left anyway, so it would not blind oncoming drivers in turns that badly.
On straights it works 100%...
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Works pretty reliable on my estate. Mind you that it also has cornering lights, so in a corner it tends to anyway point the lights just off the centre to the left anyway, so it would not blind oncoming drivers in turns that badly.
On straights it works 100%...
I'm not sure you're referring to the same thing - high beam assist doesn't operate beneath 40 odd MPH and will only operate in complete darkness - any street lighting and it'll keep dipped beam.
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Not sure about the speed High Beam Assist works at, however the post by itavaltalainen pretty much sums it up. Under ideal conditions it works perfectly, on twisty country roads with dips and hills it's not so good, but perhaps I'm expecting too much from the system.
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Interesting angle, but I'm with the OP on this. The description on the VW website certainly suggests it is indeed a driver assistant, but more in respect of doing it for you and 'making it safer' by removing the requirement to keep 'constantly switching from high to dipped beam'.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/comfort-and-convenience/high-beam-assist (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/comfort-and-convenience/high-beam-assist)
If it was only intended to be a 'back up' system in case you forgot, then wouldn''t it always be enabled and only turn the main beam off, and not back on? Plus, I'm sure if you toggle the main beam a few times you actually disable the High Beam Assist entirely. Could be wrong there though.
Back to the OP, I also think it's a little slow, only a second or so, but could certainly be a little quicker. Don't use it much anyway as my route is well lit.
Thanks Jive, if that's how VW advertise it then fair enough, I wouldn't expect to have to toggle back and forth either!
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Works pretty reliable on my estate. Mind you that it also has cornering lights, so in a corner it tends to anyway point the lights just off the centre to the left anyway, so it would not blind oncoming drivers in turns that badly.
On straights it works 100%...
I'm not sure you're referring to the same thing - high beam assist doesn't operate beneath 40 odd MPH and will only operate in complete darkness - any street lighting and it'll keep dipped beam.
yeah i'm on about the high beam assist... ;)
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I can't say that I've had any issues with mine, works so far :smiley:
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My lights react faster than I could myself but I have the dynamic light assist.
I stumbled upon the option to change the light intensity to change from high to low beam. I can't remember if it was in the central electrics or front camera. The unit was lux. I'll check it tomorrow.
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you get DYNAMIC light assist in ireland? :shocked:
why do the buggers not sell it in uk (same for reversing cam) :undecided:
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Ya it was on the price list but nobody had ordered it here before so there was a lot of hassle adding it to the spec.
First VW ireland said it can only be ordered with halogens but after I sent them the German price list that said only WITH xenons they asked the factory and there is a different option code for xenons with dynamic light assist.
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I just noticed Dynamic Light Assist is now on the UK price list!
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I just noticed Dynamic Light Assist is now on the UK price list!
What?! It better not be... :angry:
edit: nope - still absent!
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My lights react faster than I could myself but I have the dynamic light assist.
I stumbled upon the option to change the light intensity to change from high to low beam. I can't remember if it was in the central electrics or front camera. The unit was lux. I'll check it tomorrow.
This looks interesting :) When you say camera, do you mean the High Beam Assist module [20]?
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I just noticed Dynamic Light Assist is now on the UK price list!
What?! It better not be... :angry:
edit: nope - still absent!
It is! It's bundled with lane assist.
EDIT:
(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv79/kevinm_photobucket/UKpricelist_zpscf5b7be0.png)
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My lights react faster than I could myself but I have the dynamic light assist.
I stumbled upon the option to change the light intensity to change from high to low beam. I can't remember if it was in the central electrics or front camera. The unit was lux. I'll check it tomorrow.
This looks interesting :) When you say camera, do you mean the High Beam Assist module [20]?
I mean the camera above the mirror. Ill check this evening.
Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242) Labels: 5Q0-980-653.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 980 653 E HW: 5Q0 980 653
Component: MQB_MFK H05 0051
Serial number: 10000015927
Coding: 0100020001020303000400000100010100
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
ROD: EV_MFKBoschAU370.rod
VCID: 3A70C995BDA2F9CE9A7-806F
No fault code found.
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By gosh you're right! I wonder how long that's been sitting there..seems odd that they've created a new name for it, I thought it was DLA (dynamic light assist)?? Dynamic high beam assist is certainly sounding different to plain old high beam assist. Why would it only come with lane assist I wonder? Is there anything else apart from the shutters in the headlamp units that would be needing changed for lane assist? :huh:
As long as it's not the new factory standard, I'm happy! :tongue:
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My lights react faster than I could myself but I have the dynamic light assist.
I stumbled upon the option to change the light intensity to change from high to low beam. I can't remember if it was in the central electrics or front camera. The unit was lux. I'll check it tomorrow.
This looks interesting :) When you say camera, do you mean the High Beam Assist module [20]?
I mean the camera above the mirror. Ill check this evening.
Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242) Labels: 5Q0-980-653.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 980 653 E HW: 5Q0 980 653
Component: MQB_MFK H05 0051
Serial number: 10000015927
Coding: 0100020001020303000400000100010100
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
ROD: EV_MFKBoschAU370.rod
VCID: 3A70C995BDA2F9CE9A7-806F
No fault code found.
You must have the different camera for lane assist? I don't have what you're showing..only the [20] high beam assist I mentioned..
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
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This is what the a5 camera looks like:
(http://mkvii.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=67&d=1349288783&thumb=1)
I don't have module 20. The same camera does DLA and lane assist. You can spec lane and regular high beam assist in Ireland. Lane and dynamic light assist costs a bit more, probably to cover the headlights with extra shutters.
It wouldn't be the first time vw uk renamed an option. The renamed comfort as advanced bluetooth. And to be fair dynamic high beam assist is a better description of it.
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The setting is in the A5 camera module. Maybe something similar is in your high beam assist module.
(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv79/kevinm_photobucket/nightvehicledetectionactivationbrightness_zpsb267a1e6.png)
(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv79/kevinm_photobucket/nightvehicledetectiondeactivationbrightness_zpsc56fcda1.png)
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Will check the high beam assist module and see , but fairly sure there's not that much in there.
Had a quick look and looks like the UK can't spec Lane Assist at all, it's not an option on the configurator and not an option when speccing the car up on various broker sites (which are usually quite accurate).