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Title: anyone had trouble detailing tornado red?
Post by: titusrider on 22 January 2014, 23:28

Heya, got a professional detailer doing my bw 48 tornado red gti and he is having big trouble with the quality of the paint. Very hard lacquer and very soft paint. I fully respect the detailer and he is determined to sort it but i wondered if anyone else has had issues?

cheers
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Title: Re: anyone had trouble detailing tornado red?
Post by: Johnc41 on 22 January 2014, 23:43

Hi mate I have tornado red mk7 gti and the paint work is superb and really easy to detail and keep clean. I have done 4000miles and not even a stone chip which is very rare. Hope you get it sorted or I can do it for you lol :smiley:

Title: Re: anyone had trouble detailing tornado red?
Post by: Jimble on 23 January 2014, 07:37

All new VAG cars have hard clearcoat and require quite abrasive products for correction, i'd be worried if he's gone through to the paint though! :shocked:

Title: Re: anyone had trouble detailing tornado red?
Post by: Gingernick on 23 January 2014, 08:10

what I was thinking!  have you used this guy before?!

Title: Re: anyone had trouble detailing tornado red?
Post by: dubber36 on 23 January 2014, 08:11

How does he know the paint is soft? He must have gone through the clearcoat.  :shocked:

The paint underneath is quite dull and has a matt finish.

Title: Re: anyone had trouble detailing tornado red?
Post by: JBirchy on 23 January 2014, 13:12

If he's saying it's very hard lacquer but soft paint.... That's a contradiction.

You only ever polish the lacquer on the modern clear coated paint systems. If the lacquer is hard then he will need to perform multiple stages of correction using a very abrasive compound/machine pad to start with and refining and getting less abrasive as the stages go on. If he's gone through the lacquer then the only solution is a re-spray (:cry:).

I only pick my TR Mk7 up in March so I can't say what its like just yet, but I had a Mk5 GTI in TR and it was hard, but not silly.

Fingers crossed!

Title: Re: anyone had trouble detailing tornado red?
Post by: titusrider on 23 January 2014, 16:26

Ok just got it back and he has managed some good results but he still wants to do another half day FOC in a few weeks to try and improve it. 

Basically I had the wrong end of the stick, the lacquer was v soft, nothing to do with the paint.

He could easily 'cut back' to get the surface scratches out but when using finer and finer pads/ polish's he was still getting marks left and not a flat surface to work from.

Title: Re: anyone had trouble detailing tornado red?
Post by: JBirchy on 23 January 2014, 17:02

Ahh I see - makes much more sense!  :grin:

Basically, if the paint is very soft then removing the polish can be quite hard. Buffing the polishing compound away can leave cloth marring marks in itself. Soft paint IMO is the hardest to polish as it's so delicate and not forgiving at all!

Long, slow sets are required and then as little buffing as possible to prevent leaving marks.

Fair play to him for letting you know. Who was it out of interest?