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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: benday007 on 19 January 2014, 17:53

Title: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: benday007 on 19 January 2014, 17:53
Hi Guys, After an afternoon of "working" on my project mk2 8v (1989)
I noticed that most of the relays on the right and side of the fusebox are rusted into the box by their contact pins.
I've removed all of the relays to clean em up, however, one did not come out in one piece as it was rusted in so badly, in fact, one of the contact pins broke off and stayed inside the slot on the fusebox. It is not sticking out at all so wouldn't be able to remove it with tweezers/pliers as can't get on it from the front, also its rusted in there so it will be stuck fast too.

So does anyone have a magical, easy solution to getting the pin out so that I can put a new relay in. Or is it a case of taking the fusebox totally out of the car - can it be opended up when out of the car??

Otherwise, how much petrol do I need to set the magic machine alight, that'll teach it.. :)
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: weazgti on 19 January 2014, 18:11
I picked up a mk3 fusebox from scrappy for £7 for mine. Might be an easier solution for you
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: benday007 on 19 January 2014, 18:22
Is it an easy job to change it over?
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: Sgt_Lemon on 19 January 2014, 18:29
The fuse box is the same. If you take the three screws out of the cover under the wheel you can see it all. There are clips on either side of the box which when undone allows the box to flip down and be supported on the wires. You can take your time and label/photo everything to put them in the new box. They can be a bit of a mare to get out sometimes. Instillation is the reverse of removal.
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: weazgti on 19 January 2014, 19:01
I messed about changing one plug at a time but then run out if room and just unplugged everything. The beauty is the plugs will only go in the correct slot with offset pegs on them so no chance of getting it wrong
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: benday007 on 19 January 2014, 19:04
Ive got the lower dash trim panel off already, the fusebox pulls away towards me and there are white clips on either side which I think I need to unclip, how can you get to the plus on the back of the fuse box?
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: weazgti on 19 January 2014, 19:19
Pull the clips out and lift fusebox off its hangers then you ll be able to spin the whole thing over
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: benday007 on 20 January 2014, 00:49
so, once I've removed the fusebox from the car, is there a chance I can get to the back of the slot the pin is stuck in? does it split in half as such or is it a sealed unit.

I don't mind buying a replacement, but I'd rather remove the pin, clean the box up and put it back if that is possible, no sense wasting money if I don't need too

What are ya thoughts?
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: Sgt_Lemon on 20 January 2014, 19:13
Even if it was possible to get it in half to push the relay pin back through your still missing a relay and would have most likely have to have removed all the plugs. At the scrappy grab both the relay and the fusebox.
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: gazareth on 20 January 2014, 20:13
I would just change it as going by your first post it sounds pretty corroded. is your car a ce1 or ce2 model? ce1 will have hazard light switch beside rear fog light switch. ce2 its on steering column cowl.
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: benday007 on 20 January 2014, 20:46
It's ce1 electrics, there are no mk2 golfs with any bits left on them at the yards near me, this will need to be an eBay job!
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: benday007 on 20 January 2014, 21:42
Managed to get the box of the bracket and have a look behind, it's a bit of a mess as there's been bodging action before, some old wiring can be removed but it'll wait till I get a go in daylight, almost every fuse has corrosion at the terminals, I can see a source of water ingress but will be surprised if its the only one, needs to all come out so I can clean up the area and seal up the leaking bilkhead!
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: gazareth on 20 January 2014, 23:09
I would pull the wiring plugs out of the back of fusebox and check them for corrosion. if they are bad I would seriously consider swapping the loom and fusebox to ce2.
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: benday007 on 22 January 2014, 19:45
You are most likely right, but I am hoping to keep this vehicle as standard as possible, I have replaced a lot of CE 1 stuff including speedo, wiper stalks etc and I'm looking to have the car finished and running this summer if poss (should have been last summer!)
Gonna have to stick to CE1
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: gazareth on 22 January 2014, 22:43
maybe you could strip down and clean out fusebox. would do it very carefully though and take plenty photos as you go.
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: JC on 22 January 2014, 22:59
If its got to the point of corroding a relay in place like that it needs

A, a full strip down and clean

Or

2, replacing

I would go for option 2. U will never clean it all up and mk2 electric need all the help they can get  :laugh:

A ce1 fuse box can be obtained easily enough. Get it restored out of the car then swap out from one straight into the other.  :cool:
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: JMallows on 23 January 2014, 19:49
Not sure if this helps or not:

http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?264614-coke-trick-on-fusebox
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: clipperjay on 23 January 2014, 21:20
If its got to the point of corroding a relay in place like that it needs

A, a full strip down and clean

Or

2, replacing

I would go for option 2. U will never clean it all up and mk2 electric need all the help they can get  :laugh:

A ce1 fuse box can be obtained easily enough. Get it restored out of the car then swap out from one straight into the other.  :cool:
Agreed I've taken apart a rusty green one and you know what?.... I binned it there are just some things you should get a replacement especially if its the nerve center of the car  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Relays/Fusebox Problem
Post by: benday007 on 28 January 2014, 21:21
Well....Photo's of my CE 1 fusebox being removed plus the rusty article ready for the bin

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff177/benday007/IMG_0806.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/benday007/media/IMG_0806.jpg.html)

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff177/benday007/IMG_0807.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/benday007/media/IMG_0807.jpg.html)

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff177/benday007/IMG_0808.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/benday007/media/IMG_0808.jpg.html)

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