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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Sootchucker on 17 January 2014, 10:51
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Don't know if this is of interest to anyone, but was browsing though one of my VW self study guides for the MK7, and came across a description of what each of the driver profile modes actually changes. Thought it might of interest to some ?
Comfort Mode (only vehicles with DCC)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3706/11993932913_54e5588711_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11993932913/)
Comfort mode (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11993932913/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr
Normal Mode
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2838/11993641595_23696241b7_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11993641595/)
Normal Mode (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11993641595/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr
Sport Mode
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3671/11994004864_8052917083_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11994004864/)
Sport Mode (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11994004864/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr
Eco Mode
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3695/11994450536_480608931b_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11994450536/)
Eco Mode (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11994450536/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr
Individual Mode
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2809/11994004894_512265d252_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11994004894/)
Individual mode (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/11994004894/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr
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So Comfort and Eco are essentially the same settings?
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So Comfort and Eco are essentially the same settings?
No, because its softer, the light and air con work as they should and the ACC isnt as retarded
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Very interesting thread Sootchucker!
I wasn't actually aware that the exhaust had a variable volume and didn't notice it when I test drove the car. I'll certainly be trying it out when I collect the car (still 6 weeks away... :whistle:)
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It's a speaker
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Brilliant! Many thanks for posting that. I am picking up my car tomorrow :grin:
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Thanks Sootchucker!
So freewheeling can only be done in Eco? That's a bit disappointing, and means I need not bother experimenting with setting up Individual at all now...
I'm happy with Comfort for most driving, and Sport for having fun :grin:
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Very interesting thread Sootchucker!
I wasn't actually aware that the exhaust had a variable volume and didn't notice it when I test drove the car. I'll certainly be trying it out when I collect the car (still 6 weeks away... :whistle:)
On the GTi it is only internal.
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Its internal only on the GTD as well isn't it?
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In the UK yes but in other markets the GTD gets the external speaker in the exhaust.
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Great post :smiley:
So, Sport mode doesn't actually make the car faster? Feels like it does. Maybe that's just the extra noise :cool:
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Sharpens throttle response so in theory you will be faster. Also I read somewhere you can only achieve Top speed in normal and sport, somewhere near this table in the manual
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Great post :smiley:
So, Sport mode doesn't actually make the car faster? Feels like it does. Maybe that's just the extra noise :cool:
Sport mode gives you the illusion that you're faster but actually Stig managed a quicker lap time in the GTI on Comfort mode.
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Great post :smiley:
So, Sport mode doesn't actually make the car faster? Feels like it does. Maybe that's just the extra noise :cool:
Sport mode gives you the illusion that you're faster but actually Stig managed a quicker lap time in the GTI on Comfort mode.
Mk6 or mk7?
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In the UK yes but in other markets the GTD gets the external speaker in the exhaust.
Why would you want a diesel to be louder :huh:
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In the UK yes but in other markets the GTD gets the external speaker in the exhaust.
Why would you want a diesel to be louder :huh:
I think the idea is to make it sound sportier. Turbodiesel cars dont really have a loud exhaust note.
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It's a brilliant idea on a derv, petrol sound with twice the economy, it's the future no doubt. And in answer to the other question it was about a mk7 but it was never shown and could be Top gear bs
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The Clarkson / stig / dampers comment was printed in his Sunday times review of the Mk 7
No more reason not to believe than anything else he says!
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In the UK yes but in other markets the GTD gets the external speaker in the exhaust.
Why would you want a diesel to be louder :huh:
I think the idea is to make it sound sportier. Turbodiesel cars dont really have a loud exhaust note.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6bl-oRfY8w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6bl-oRfY8w)
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It's a brilliant idea on a derv, petrol sound with twice the economy, it's the future no doubt. And in answer to the other question it was about a mk7 but it was never shown and could be Top gear bs
I think the future is a GTI with cylinder deactivation, the GTD could be extinct if that happens. Look at the 140TSI ACT GT. It has a combined figure of 58.9mpg and 140PS, with 0-62 sprint 0.2s faster than the 150PS 2.0TDI (maybe that's high torque/low traction on the TDI, but faster when on moderately short journeys moving). Plenty of people on the forums with the ACT getting 50mpg - they're getting a lot closer to published figures than GTIs and GTDs are.
Imagine a GTI ACT with an easily achievable 45mpg in everyday use. That pretty much matches what i'm getting with the GTD. Would I buy a 220PS real 45mpg GTI over a 184PS GTD with maybe a real 50mpg (based on 15 mile journeys)? Hell yes!
Could cylinder deactivation work on the TDI to redress the advantage, or would the gains be too small to justify the extra cost?
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Sharpens throttle response so in theory you will be faster. Also I read somewhere you can only achieve Top speed in normal and sport, somewhere near this table in the manual
Assuming the modes work the same with my GTD as your GTI, Sport mode has a sharper response at the lower end, but there's noticeably more power in the upper range when i'm in Normal mode: 30-80mph sprint is quicker for mine in Normal and Normal is about 10% thirstier than running in Sport.
If you disregard the mpg losses, it is a better driving experience in normal on the GTD as the reined in power at the lower end mitigates the likelihood of tramping, then once you're rolling you can put more power down. In Sport, my GTD feels the same as my 170TDI Scirocco in acceleration, but in normal you can tell it has 14PS more.
Seems odd that Sport is less sporty across the whole driving range than Normal.
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Some call it a "soundakator" I've seen one on a colleagues, it's a small black box under the plastic grill that sort of covers over the windscreen wiper connections. Pulled the rubber seal off and eased up the plastic grill (from the engine side) reach in and disconnected his. Each to their own eh, I quite like the sound of it so doubt I will be disconnecting mine when it finally arrives :)
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Some call it a "soundakator" I've seen one on a colleagues, it's a small black box under the plastic grill that sort of covers over the windscreen wiper connections. Pulled the rubber seal off and eased up the plastic grill (from the engine side) reach in and disconnected his. Each to their own eh, I quite like the sound of it so doubt I will be disconnecting mine when it finally arrives :)
Do you have any pictures of this? Was this a MK7 as i have seen a few MK6's with this mod.
J
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Sharpens throttle response so in theory you will be faster. Also I read somewhere you can only achieve Top speed in normal and sport, somewhere near this table in the manual
Assuming the modes work the same with my GTD as your GTI, Sport mode has a sharper response at the lower end, but there's noticeably more power in the upper range when i'm in Normal mode: 30-80mph sprint is quicker for mine in Normal and Normal is about 10% thirstier than running in Sport.
If you disregard the mpg losses, it is a better driving experience in normal on the GTD as the reined in power at the lower end mitigates the likelihood of tramping, then once you're rolling you can put more power down. In Sport, my GTD feels the same as my 170TDI Scirocco in acceleration, but in normal you can tell it has 14PS more.
Seems odd that Sport is less sporty across the whole driving range than Normal.
You might wanna get some logs done on vcds on that one, does seem strange. My sport mode feels faster than normal, yes sone of its in my head
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It's a brilliant idea on a derv, petrol sound with twice the economy, it's the future no doubt. And in answer to the other question it was about a mk7 but it was never shown and could be Top gear bs
I think the future is a GTI with cylinder deactivation, the GTD could be extinct if that happens. Look at the 140TSI ACT GT. It has a combined figure of 58.9mpg and 140PS, with 0-62 sprint 0.2s faster than the 150PS 2.0TDI (maybe that's high torque/low traction on the TDI, but faster when on moderately short journeys moving). Plenty of people on the forums with the ACT getting 50mpg - they're getting a lot closer to published figures than GTIs and GTDs are.
Imagine a GTI ACT with an easily achievable 45mpg in everyday use. That pretty much matches what i'm getting with the GTD. Would I buy a 220PS real 45mpg GTI over a 184PS GTD with maybe a real 50mpg (based on 15 mile journeys)? Hell yes!
Could cylinder deactivation work on the TDI to redress the advantage, or would the gains be too small to justify the extra cost?
Act has got to be being saved for the FL Gti, but diesel will always be safe until Audi start running petrol hybrids at le mans
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my sport mode is 10 to 15% worse for mpgs than normal or comfort.
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my sport mode is 10 to 15% worse for mpgs than normal or comfort.
Sometimes I wonder whether my modes are labelled wrong in the displays. Sport mode feels like it should be normal mode and normal mode feels like it should be sport mode - a coding glitch perhaps if mine is the only one like this?
My car is definitely more powerful and also consistently 10% thirstier on my commute in my "Normal" mode.
Sport and Eco end up with the same result for my mpg, I just end up having to drive Eco mode a lot harder to get the same result.
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You might wanna get some logs done on vcds on that one, does seem strange. My sport mode feels faster than normal, yes sone of its in my head
In my semi-scientific dash from Billy Mill roundabout starting at 25mph at a slip road to a sign I use as a marker, I could pass it at 80mph in my MK5 170TDI PD, 78mph in my 140TDI CR Scirocco, 83mph in the Scirocco 170TDI CR, and 81 mph in my GTD (Sport mode, best attempt). All in bone dry, non-windy conditions, only real variable was the temperature, and the GTD was done at 18C with 1000 miles on the clock mid-October, so not comparing freezing with boiling ambient temp.
For this reason I thought my GTD was only kicking out 160PS and looked into the tuning box options.
I gave Normal a go out of curiosity recently and passed the sign at 85mph twice in 2 attempts, both in the dry at about 8C. Definitely think my Sport is Normal in disguise, except the steering is heavier and more direct and the Soundaktor is louder in Sport mode.
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Monkeyhanger, you are not alone! I posted a while back stating Normal seemed quicker than Sport (this was when I switched from Sport to Normal whilst the car had been driven a while). Sometimes when I start off in Normal then switch to Sport shortly after the car seems to respond better (not always) and vice versa too so I think the modes mean nothing when it comes to speed rather than driving style (steering/sound/DCC etc...) This is just my experience though....
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Monkeyhanger, you are not alone! I posted a while back stating Normal seemed quicker than Sport (this was when I switched from Sport to Normal whilst the car had been driven a while). Sometimes when I start off in Normal then switch to Sport shortly after the car seems to respond better (not always) and vice versa too so I think the modes mean nothing when it comes to speed rather than driving style (steering/sound/DCC etc...) This is just my experience though....
I think it is pretty normal to assume Sport is quicker and for me it should be, but the poorer mpg in Normal and faster acceleration as measured by my rough around the edges experimentation leads me to believe that for my car at least, Normal is definitely quicker than Sport. It's the mid-range I really feel it, pick-up just feels a bit livelier from 1900rpm, rather than 2100rpm in the Sport mode. A VW mistake in set-up?
I stay in Sport most of the time because i'm too tight to take the 10% hit on already crap mpg! :grin:
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Some call it a "soundakator" I've seen one on a colleagues, it's a small black box under the plastic grill that sort of covers over the windscreen wiper connections. Pulled the rubber seal off and eased up the plastic grill (from the engine side) reach in and disconnected his. Each to their own eh, I quite like the sound of it so doubt I will be disconnecting mine when it finally arrives :)
Do you have any pictures of this? Was this a MK7 as i have seen a few MK6's with this mod.
J
Mk7 pal
This vid shows where it's located
http://youtu.be/XYzlTOE5H6A
A
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Great post :smiley:
So, Sport mode doesn't actually make the car faster? Feels like it does. Maybe that's just the extra noise :cool:
Sport mode gives you the illusion that you're faster but actually Stig managed a quicker lap time in the GTI on Comfort mode.
Mk6 or mk7?
Yes it was a Mk7. No reason for him to make it up as he said the GTI was a great car. He was simply saying that Sport buttons ect do nothing at all to the cars performance.
My car does feel the same on kick down acceleration in both Comfort & Sport mode. I really don't think it's a considerable difference if any at all. Only mode it feels different inside Eco. The sound is different in Sport too , that's the only differences I can notice.