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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Andrew@DTUK on 16 January 2014, 09:48
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Hi guys i thought id start a new thread regarding our plans for tuning the latest VAG 2.0 TFSI including the new Golf R
Our hardware is produced in Germany by DTE Systems Gmbh, and as their sole Official UK importer we (DTUK) have access to the latest technology they have available and quite often we have systems not available to anyone else.
We have specialised in Diesel Tuning since 2005 and in that time we have sold over 15,000 kits worldwide and over the years have spent 1000's of hours developing our VAG Diesel Tuning kits. Over the last 12 months DTE have invested over £1.5 million into new production facilities including a top of the range MAHA 4WD dyno. The results they're seeing are fantastic but they're only interested in a plug in and go option, they're not interested in offering any stage 2 tunes for petrols.
Over the last 9 years i can count on one hand the number of customers who have asked about adding an exhaust or FMIC to a diesel car weVE tuned for them, where as petrol enthusiasts kind of expect this. Hence the reason we have decided to partner Shark performance on the Petrol tuning side of things. Ben at Shark reminds me so much of myself as were both passionate about what we do, abet via 2 completely different methods but bringing both of years of knowledge together seams like a natural thing.
Tuning boxes over the years have had a lot of bad press, and rightly so. Just like remaps there a good ones, and a lot more bad ones but I'm confident that we (DTUK and Shark Performance) are able offer the best warranty safe option there is on the market for the 2.0TFSI and many others.
So getting back to the boxes, we will be offering 2 options to customers.
1) The FSR system.
this will be a stage 1 tune kit and has been designed for customers who have no plans to add any hardware upgrades to their car. The full retail price on that kit is £549 nc vat. and will be available direct from DTUK or Shark Performance HQ.
2) The FSR+ system
How does this differ to the FSR? Well as i mentioned earlier as the official UK importer for DTE i do have a really good relationship with them and when i asked if they could help us create something a little different, something that would allow us to offer a system capable of being updated for stage 2 tunes and above they were prepared to listen. Several months later the FSR+ was born.
FSR on the left, and FSR+ on the right.
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As I've said DTUK is the only official UK importer of DTE Systems tuning modules, so you can be assured of a tuning system of the highest quality with the backing of one of Germanys longest established tuners.
Both systems are now available to purchase, but at this time both kits are only available with Stage 1 tunes, the Stage 2 tunes will be released over the next week or so and i do believe that we will be offering packages with the relevant Milltek exhaust.
This is still work in progress so if you have any questions please ask, and ill update this thread with the all important figures as soon as i can, but i can confirm that the stage 1 tunes will be approx 280/290 and the Stage 2 should be 300+
Again i must stress that this time we have not released any official figures and that anyone who has purchased kits from DTUK before today will be entitled to any stage 1 upgrades that we release F.O.C.
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additional information.
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/ABYSS69/ABYSS69019/FSR_zps3509bcd0.jpg)
FSR+ Hybrid - Multi-Channel Petrol Tuning System
The latest addition to the DTUK® range, developed alongside Shark Performance, the FSR+ Hybrid has been developed for the very latest turbocharged premium petrol cars.
In response to the shift to even more complex tamperproof vehicle ECU’s by many German car manufacturers we have teamed up with Shark Performance to develop a solution that offers a ‘remap in a box’ that does not require physical, warranty voiding, changes to your vehicles ECU. Combining the best of both worlds – the plug & play nature of a tuning box with the in-depth monitoring and software optimisation of a high-quality remap and DTUK’s years of successful system developments with Shark’s years of equally successful software development - the Hybrid is born.
The FSR+ Hybrid Petrol Tuning System.
The FSR+ Petrol Tuning System is an all new system that builds on our existing multimap technology from both our diesel CRD-T and petrol CRD-P systems and adds an increased level of multi-channel monitoring and control as demanded by the latest vehicle OEM ECU’s.
The FSR+ is capable of interacting with multiple channels across multiple sensors to suit each application. These can include RPM, fuel injection, boost pressure, air mass, temperature and more. By simultaneously monitoring a variety of sensors an optimised level of tune can be safely achieved.
Just like the DTUK® Diesel Tuning Systems you may already be familiar with, this system is designed to be plug and play albeit with more connections than most diesel applications due to the number of monitoring points mentioned above.
To maintain quality, safety and suitability we only use Original Equipment (OE) connectors in our systems which enables easy, quick fitting in minutes, not hours. This means that the kit can be removed just as easily when required. Once the system is removed your car reverts back to factory settings.
Often the system can be re-programmed to fit other applications if you change your current car*.
Added benefit of the FSR+ Hybrid Petrol Tuning System.
Historically, our systems have been designed specifically for standard cars. We appreciate that many petrol turbo owners will want to make future hardware upgrades to their engines. If you fall in to this category then you can take advantage of the FSR+ upgrade option where your system can be re-programmed to suit your modifications**.
All FSR+ Petrol Tuning systems arrive to you carefully packed, complete with everything you will need for simple and straightforward installation. This includes full colour instructions, your petrol tuning system, the correct wiring harness including OE connectors and where applicable a blanking plug should you wish to temporarily return the car to standard trim without removing the loom.
These units come with full TüV approval and are well protected in a special heat and acid-resistant plastic exterior housing. Wiring harnesses are equipped with up to seven separate connections and are thoroughly checked, physically and electronically, several times before despatch. The sturdy 18-pin connector used to connect the system to the loom provided is specially designed for tough conditions and is used throughout the automotive sector. The adapter plugs are manufactured to OEM quality. No soldering or cutting of wires is necessary. Just connect it up and it’s done!
The FSR+ system is subject to the strict quality controls of the system manufacturer DTE Systems GmbH. This guarantees that you the customer will receive the best possible product.
*Dependent on compatibility. A replacement loom may be required as well as a software change.
**Software changes subject to development that may be chargeable and may require the vehicle being taken to DTUK®, Shark or an approved dealer thereof.
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This is still work in progress so if you have any questions please ask, and ill update this thread with the all important figures as soon as i can, but i can confirm that the stage 1 tunes will be approx 280/290 and the Stage 2 should be 300+
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10172/smiley-face-popcorn.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/)
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Andrew, that looks great (apart from I'm at work and can't see the pictures lol!)
Quick question though...
Say (for instance) someone bought a FSR+ system set up for stage 1 and at a later date added the TBE and wanted to upgrade to Stage 2, what would be the procedure/cost for this?
I understand we are in early days for this but that is probably the route I would end up taking (unless it's masively expensive to change the state of tune on the box)
Edit - and are the power/torque figures for the PP different from the non PP model (as these are boxes that modify the signals rather than rewrite the ECU)?
Cheers!
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Andrew, that looks great (apart from I'm at work and can't see the pictures lol!)
Quick question though...
Say (for instance) someone bought a FSR+ system set up for stage 1 and at a later date added the TBE and wanted to upgrade to Stage 2, what would be the procedure/cost for this?
I understand we are in early days for this but that is probably the route I would end up taking (unless it's masively expensive to change the state of tune on the box)
Edit - and are the power/torque figures for the PP different from the non PP model (as these are boxes that modify the signals rather than rewrite the ECU)?
Cheers!
If the FSR+ was sold and fitted as a stage 2 tune then the cost would be £649 + the cost of the exhaust.
if the FSR+ was sold as a stage 1 tune and at a later date you added an exhaust, then there would be a charge of £100.00 plus the cost of the exhaust. We are working on some packages, so say for instance the exhaust was purchased from Shark then the upgrade cost could we waived.
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so where does this unit sit and how easy is to install and remove when you want to pop along to the dealer for a spot of warranty work or a service and want to look all innocent
priced very competitively when you consider what ABT charge
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so where does this unit sit and how easy is to install and remove when you want to pop along to the dealer for a spot of warranty work or a service and want to look all innocent
priced very competitively when you consider what ABT charge
The module sits inbetween the battery and air box, fitting instructions can be downloaded here:
https://db.tt/3dtbNLwt
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so where does this unit sit and how easy is to install and remove when you want to pop along to the dealer for a spot of warranty work or a service and want to look all innocent
priced very competitively when you consider what ABT charge
Andy, if you want 100% innocent then you'll have to remove the loom but it's fairly discreet as is when it's in place so it depends on what the car is going in for whether or not the techies would notice it. It can be hidden reasonably well and the box can easily be removed with just a blanking plug left on the loom to keep it weather and heat protected.
The loom only takes a while to remove once you've done it the first time. The bottom front one is a bit of a pig but once that one is undone the others take just a few minutes.
The box itself could quite easily be hidden away even more than Andrew suggests with some high quality self adhesive velcro it would fit under the air box completely out of sight.
It's a nice snug fit between the air box and battery though. It won't budge a millimetre in normal driving.
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Hi Andrew,
I was wondering - how does this new Shark box (the stage 1 one) compare with the DTUK box previously advertised on the forum for the GTI?
Thanks,
Greg
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Andy, if you want 100% innocent then you'll have to remove the loom but it's fairly discreet as is when it's in place so it depends on what the car is going in for whether or not the techies would notice it. It can be hidden reasonably well and the box can easily be removed with just a blanking plug left on the loom to keep it weather and heat protected.
The loom only takes a while to remove once you've done it the first time. The bottom front one is a bit of a pig but once that one is undone the others take just a few minutes.
The box itself could quite easily be hidden away even more than Andrew suggests with some high quality self adhesive velcro it would fit under the air box completely out of sight.
It's a nice snug fit between the air box and battery though. It won't budge a millimetre in normal driving.
Looks a fairly straightforward and food for thought, remapping the R is not on the top of the mods list, it's about number 5 :)
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This is still work in progress so if you have any questions please ask, and ill update this thread with the all important figures as soon as i can, but i can confirm that the stage 1 tunes will be approx 280/290 and the Stage 2 should be 300+
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10172/smiley-face-popcorn.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/)
Andrew, any further with figures for stage 2?
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This is still work in progress so if you have any questions please ask, and ill update this thread with the all important figures as soon as i can, but i can confirm that the stage 1 tunes will be approx 280/290 and the Stage 2 should be 300+
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10172/smiley-face-popcorn.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/)
Andrew, any further with figures for stage 2?
Nothing yet, Ben ran out of time on Friday
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Ok, thanks for the update
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Think I will put mine up to plus one today :evil:
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as Ben wanted to be 100% certain about the EGT's things have been delayed due to Ben having to wait for a probe of some sorts. The probe has landed, and the Milltek gti is back on the dyno :whistle:
So fingers crossed Ben will be happy with what he's seeing on the dyno and if so ill post the graphs and info asap.
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Good shout for Ben, I was wondering myself about EGTs once you've pushed the tuning past a certain point.
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Good shout for Ben, I was wondering myself about EGTs once you've pushed the tuning past a certain point.
Some figures ben mentioned earlier were 3?2.9bhp 4?2nm and EGT's of around 800 degrees and no signs of any engine lights or limp mode.That was with the more restrictive ec approved milltek exhaust :)
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Amazing figures! :cool:
Standard air box and filter?
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Amazing figures! :cool:
Standard air box and filter?
Certainly standard box and probably standard filter, but i've put a pipercross one in just to be on the safe side.
Looking forward to final figures and curious if the BCS one will make even better figures, only time will tell, t-minus 11 days and counting :smiley:
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Amazing figures! :cool:
Standard air box and filter?
Standard filter i assume :laugh:
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will be interesting what Stage 2 gains are for the £2.5K+ of investment to get you there
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will be interesting what Stage 2 gains are for the £2.5K+ of investment to get you there
Where did you get 2.5k from?
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will be interesting what Stage 2 gains are for the £2.5K+ of investment to get you there
Where did you get 2.5k from?
2.5k is slightly high, but if you were getting a milltek, they retail at around £1650 plus the box/remap on top of that.
That said, not sure what the BCS system will retail at!
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Full details of the stage 2 will be released next week after testing at Bruntingthorpe later this week,
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Stage 1 graph, standard Golf GTI PPC
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will be interesting what Stage 2 gains are for the £2.5K+ of investment to get you there
Where did you get 2.5k from?
2.5k is slightly high, but if you were getting a milltek, they retail at around £1650 plus the box/remap on top of that.
That said, not sure what the BCS system will retail at!
Its about the same price but i think it includes fitting and the milltek price doesnt, so it will be cheaper anyway.
BUT.... thats for a full system, you would probably achieve near on the same results with just a large bore downpipe and hi-flow cat, which currently retail at aroun £800 for milltek, unsure about BCS, im sure if they do them it will be cheaper.
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will be interesting what Stage 2 gains are for the £2.5K+ of investment to get you there
Where did you get 2.5k from?
2.5k is slightly high, but if you were getting a milltek, they retail at around £1650 plus the box/remap on top of that.
That said, not sure what the BCS system will retail at!
Its about the same price but i think it includes fitting and the milltek price doesnt, so it will be cheaper anyway.
BUT.... thats for a full system, you would probably achieve near on the same results with just a large bore downpipe and hi-flow cat, which currently retail at aroun £800 for milltek, unsure about BCS, im sure if they do them it will be cheaper.
Also (although you're going BCS) there should be another option with Scorpion which (from very distant previous experience) are good quality bits of kit too.
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Hi Andrew, is there still £80 off the £499 price tag?? :whistle:
"Are you looking to tune your Golf GTI or GTD? Were currently offering members £80 off the full RRP on all DTUK Petrol and Diesel Tuning Systems"
cheers
Doug
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Hi Andrew, is there still £80 off the £499 price tag?? :whistle:
"Are you looking to tune your Golf GTI or GTD? Were currently offering members £80 off the full RRP on all DTUK Petrol and Diesel Tuning Systems"
cheers
Doug
if you give me a call Doug ill sort something for you on the FSR stage 1 kit :)
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will be interesting what Stage 2 gains are for the £2.5K+ of investment to get you there
Where did you get 2.5k from?
the mk7 system is over 2k list with titanium tip option, £500 for code and £300-£400 for a CAI
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will be interesting what Stage 2 gains are for the £2.5K+ of investment to get you there
Where did you get 2.5k from?
the mk7 system is over 2k list with titanium tip option, £500+ for code/box in Stage 2 form and £300-£400 for a CAI
i'm a bit been there done that on the Stage 2 front and realised i'll just buy a more powerful car in the first place
the new TSI seems to be pulling about 10bhp more than previous generation, hopefully they have beefed the clutches up in the MK7
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will be interesting what Stage 2 gains are for the £2.5K+ of investment to get you there
Where did you get 2.5k from?
the mk7 system is over 2k list with titanium tip option, £500+ for code/box in Stage 2 form and £300-£400 for a CAI
i'm a bit been there done that on the Stage 2 front and realised i'll just buy a more powerful car in the first place
the new TSI seems to be pulling about 10bhp more than previous generation, hopefully they have beefed the clutches up in the MK7
Price is £1,843.74 on Awesome's website, but why anyone would another £170 for something that looks mucky stainless is beyond me. Either way Stage 2 power is possible on the cheap, plus there is no CAI yet, I hear the OEM box is that good there isnt much point replacing it, so says someone at ITG, so a panel filter will cost you £40. Job done.
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To my eyes I'd say down pipe only plus stage 2 box which would be just over a grand.
Yes you won't have shiny new tailpipes but I'm certain you could buy trims if that was a big concern.
So, that would bring a GTI PP thus equipped quite close to the price of an R - so it depends on the buyers requirements really.
The stage 2 GTI should be a pretty raw and very quick point to point car 'old skool' GTI style, and the R is an R (accomplished, polished and a step above all else in the range). Depends what the buyer wants really so it's nice to have the choice.
Once the stage 2 software and hardware gets added to the Leon Cupra you've got a real party animal assuming a lot of the sniffy members on here can get over the badge.
And eventually the stage 2 stuff will be available for the R too which would be a real weapon!!!
The stuff we used to dream about when driving mk2 Golfs all those years ago...
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To my eyes I'd say down pipe only plus stage 2 box which would be just over a grand.
Yes you won't have shiny new tailpipes but I'm certain you could buy trims if that was a big concern.
So, that would bring a GTI PP thus equipped quite close to the price of an R - so it depends on the buyers requirements really.
The stage 2 GTI should be a pretty raw and very quick point to point car 'old skool' GTI style, and the R is an R (accomplished, polished and a step above all else in the range). Depends what the buyer wants really so it's nice to have the choice.
Once the stage 2 software and hardware gets added to the Leon Cupra you've got a real party animal assuming a lot of the sniffy members on here can get over the badge.
And eventually the stage 2 stuff will be available for the R too which would be a real weapon!!!
The stuff we used to dream about when driving mk2 Golfs all those years ago...
Plans are afoot for Stage 2 for the S3 and Golf R, which I'm pretty excited about :)
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Stage 2 results..
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312 BHP and 451nm using the dtuk/Shark FSR+
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Shame it didn't get to the magic 320, maybe it will with the bcs I hope or a panel filter too, but great figures anyway
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Shame it didn't get to the magic 320, maybe it will with the bcs I hope or a panel filter too, but great figures anyway
we've seen over 320hp, but thats for another day :whistle: and we wanted to release a useable/safe option with low EGT's etc..
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Woo! :cool: :cool: :cool:
Good to see that there's still no big torque spikes so the clutch shouldn't get too much grief
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I hear the OEM box is that good there isnt much point replacing it, so says someone at ITG, so a panel filter will cost you £40. Job done.
is that why ITG have developed a kit with a filter size that is good for 500bhp, useful when you know their Technical Manager, in reality an ITG panel filter is the only one I have ever seen any gains
312bhp is a nice figure on Stage 2 and it snapping at the heels of older K04 cars and i think Nige will sift a few downpipes which are competitively priced
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I hear the OEM box is that good there isnt much point replacing it, so says someone at ITG, so a panel filter will cost you £40. Job done.
is that why ITG have developed a kit with a filter size that is good for 500bhp, useful when you know their Technical Manager, in reality an ITG panel filter is the only one I have ever seen any gains
312bhp is a nice figure on Stage 2 and it snapping at the heels of older K04 cars and i think Nige will sift a few downpipes which are competitively priced
You got a link for this as I would like a cai if just for the added noise? This the itg in the metal case or the open cone?
And yes it's still a bit below the old mapped cupras but with the weight loss and lsd it should be faster even being down on power
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i should be getting some pictures but will need to confirm if just for my viewing pleasure, all be it VWR GTI i believe is running one, from description different to what we have seen before :)
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i should be getting some pictures but will need to confirm if just for my viewing pleasure, all be it VWR GTI i believe is running one, from description different to what we have seen before :)
Will you be posting said pictures or is it a private viewing? If it's like the mk6 then hopefully it'll be encased as I wouldn't be wanting any heat soak
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i will see if private or public, totally different to the mk6 tsi by description
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I picked up one of the DTUK FSR boxes a while ago and am impressed with the gains in power :) I've been reading though that there are various programs built in which can change the way it is delivered - but the explanations of each are pretty vague. Can anybody comment on which program theyve had best results with on the GTI PP?
I'm getting good power when overtaking on the motorway etc but sometimes get a bit of wheelspin when im pulling away from rest.
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Hello! I'd like to share some info with the intent of comparing information!
Here in Brazil we used a Dynojet dyno to benchmark a Stock Golf GTI MK7 5 door, DSG, 220PS. The result was 227WHP.
Then a Speed Buster tuning box was used on the car, with the settings in "6" and on the new measure it gave a result of 275WHP. No downpipes or catbacks or anything else was modded, just the SB box was added. It was measured at 4th gear I believe.
I wonder how the FSR Stg 1 would compare to SB? I'm looking to buy and I'm deciding on what to use!
Cheers!
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I picked up one of the DTUK FSR boxes a while ago and am impressed with the gains in power :) I've been reading though that there are various programs built in which can change the way it is delivered - but the explanations of each are pretty vague. Can anybody comment on which program theyve had best results with on the GTI PP?
I'm getting good power when overtaking on the motorway etc but sometimes get a bit of wheelspin when im pulling away from rest.
Im sure the golf was dyno'd on plus 2 or plus 3..
If youre not 100% certain give us a call and we can talk you through changing the settings etc
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Andrew any comments on my question? Thanks!!!
I picked up one of the DTUK FSR boxes a while ago and am impressed with the gains in power :) I've been reading though that there are various programs built in which can change the way it is delivered - but the explanations of each are pretty vague. Can anybody comment on which program theyve had best results with on the GTI PP?
I'm getting good power when overtaking on the motorway etc but sometimes get a bit of wheelspin when im pulling away from rest.
Im sure the golf was dyno'd on plus 2 or plus 3..
If youre not 100% certain give us a call and we can talk you through changing the settings etc
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I picked up the DTUK FSR MultiChannel Petrol Tuning Box at the start of the year and the results were awesome - though I've decided now to go with a remap. Wondering if anyone would be interested in buying my tuning box?
http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/box-details.php?id=14
Bought it new at £425 and would happily sell for £300. All instructions/boxes from original sale included :)
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What remap are you going for btw?
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yes, I might be interested, whats your reason opting for the remap?
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Yeah interested to hear why? I am made up with my DTUK box and would not swap it for a remap
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yes, I might be interested, whats your reason opting for the remap?
I just prefer the idea of not having the box in there. Not that I've had any problem with the box whatsoever - and the results have been great. Just a bit of a neat freak I guess!
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i'll probably be selling mine when the maps are out. Its a great bit of kit and i have the stage 2 box but i gave up worrying about my warranty a long time ago which is its main benefit and I want even more power! stage 3 ftw lol
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I'm thinking about buying one of these - can anyone comment on the effect it had on their insurance premium?
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I have enquired with my insurance company Esure and they are fine with it as long as BHP not increased by more than 25%
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Well that's nice of them but I'm curious, you total your car so it will not be able to go on a dyno so how do they know how much bhp you've added...
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We have something to help where insurance is concerned, but I can only share details of this over the phone
Please give us a call on 01207299538 and ask for myself Andrew and I'll give you the details
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Would like to take this chance to thank Andrew at DTUK for his 24 hr assistance and first class sales service for me ending up with a FSR tuning box.
Am still in the :grin: :grin: :grin: mode just now and will need a week or so keep calm and not drive like a 18 yr old.... :whistle:
Thanks Andrew
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Would like to take this chance to thank Andrew at DTUK for his 24 hr assistance and first class sales service for me ending up with a FSR tuning box.
Am still in the :grin: :grin: :grin: mode just now and will need a week or so keep calm and not drive like a 18 yr old.... :whistle:
Thanks Andrew
Great aren't they!! Enjoy
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Would like to take this chance to thank Andrew at DTUK for his 24 hr assistance and first class sales service for me ending up with a FSR tuning box.
Am still in the :grin: :grin: :grin: mode just now and will need a week or so keep calm and not drive like a 18 yr old.... :whistle:
Thanks Andrew
Doug youre more than welcome, look forward to catching up with you when you get back from your trip
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Hey guys - have finally got around to taking the box off my car for sale (Was painful to have to remove it :()
If anyone is interested I've put it on eBay here: used but like-new condition. Has probably only done ~3000 miles.
Any queries/interest fire me a message :-)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121379082274?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Thanks,
Greg
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i forgot to mention that we've just taken delivery of this little beauty.... :whistle:
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Cant wait to see what you do with that!
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just a gti engine isnt it?
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sorry didnt mean to say 'just' what i meant was, is it a gti engine or more favourably a detuned R?
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just a gti engine isnt it?
yes Graham, in a nutshell its the GTI PPC engine with an extra 1PS..
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shame, if it was the R id probably have one as my next car, just to be different
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just a gti engine isnt it?
Didnt realise that. But the weight difference between a gti and that must be sizeable. Little pocket rocket. My old dear had an a1....quick car but sorry i just see it as a girls car
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4wd, weighs it down...
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S1 weighs 40kg more than the GTI. 4wd gets it off the line 0.5secs quicker
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Biggest downfall is its only 4 seats though.
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After cancelling my APR remap due to my personnel concerns regarding TD1 flags I had a great chat with the guys at DTUK and its looking like there could be a further step forward in performance being achieved with these plug in units...... :wink:
Testing to start very soon using this new software.
Guess im lucky no one actually bought my DTUK module when I put it up for sale.... :smiley:
Ian
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After cancelling my APR remap due to my personnel concerns regarding TD1 flags I had a great chat with the guys at DTUK and its looking like there could be a further step forward in performance being achieved with these plug in units...... :wink:
Testing to start very soon using this new software.
Guess im lucky no one actually bought my DTUK module when I put it up for sale.... :smiley:
Ian
Was good to catch up with your earlier Ian, the pedal box and replacement PCb board with the revised maps for you to try will be with you on Wednesday.
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After cancelling my APR remap due to my personnel concerns regarding TD1 flags I had a great chat with the guys at DTUK and its looking like there could be a further step forward in performance being achieved with these plug in units...... :wink:
Testing to start very soon using this new software.
Guess im lucky no one actually bought my DTUK module when I put it up for sale.... :smiley:
Ian
I'm still undecided which route to take, ie Apr dtuk or wait fir revo, just out of interest did dtuk mention what bhp they expecting from there new software.
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DTUK have not actually tested these new maps on a rolling road in the UK with a UK car yet so very sensibly are not quoting any figures yet. To be honest for myself protecting my warranty is worth MAYBE giving up a few BHP....but we will have to see what sort of results are published.
Andrew has been kind enough to let me try a few variations on a new PCB so I can give some "real driving" feedback, I should be able to do some live data logging as well. The Pedal Box unit is a purely personnel interest thing....I know many are very skeptical of these units but I feel the throttle mapping on the MK7 feels a bit detached from the engine...
Ian
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Hi Andrew,
Is there any new figures for the revised software yet? I'm more than a little tempted by fitting a box, especially with the TD1 flag issues people are reporting.
That said, I never had any problems getting my gearbox replaced under warranty on the VXR with my Dreamscience remap!
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Hi Andrew,
Is there any new figures for the revised software yet? I'm more than a little tempted by fitting a box, especially with the TD1 flag issues people are reporting.
That said, I never had any problems getting my gearbox replaced under warranty on the VXR with my Dreamscience remap!
Hi,
td1 is a lot different from the good old VXR days :)
Were taking our non PP GTI to the dyno tomorrow to run the various files we currently have access to.
This should give us a better understanding and allow us to maybe create some improved files.
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I think it looks lovely just a bit pricey IMO. Are you planning to play around with it Andrew?
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I'll add the graphs etc later today/tomorrow, but the GTI's been on the dyno today and we've seen upto
312.3bhp and 336lbft 457nm :evil: of torque with the FSR system using the revised software,
In standard form the car produced 259.8bhp and 286.4lbft 389nm :rolleyes:
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Hello Andrew, when you state standard is that totally stock with zero mods?
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Hello Andrew, when you state standard is that totally stock with zero mods?
standard non pp GTI 220PS
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Hi
Are we able to update to the new board/software if we already have a dtuk unit from you for the GTI?
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this maybe of interest to anyone looking to tune their GTI
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=270523.0
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Id recommend the pedal box.....makes a big difference to the driving experience.
Ken