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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Gaz2559 on 02 January 2014, 13:25
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Hi all,
I have done alot of reading and research on this forum and other websites into new 225 45 17 tyres and I have decided to replace my fronts (needing replaced) with Good Year Eagle F1 Assymteric 2's (£98 fitted and balanced per tyre). This is instead of paying £60ish per tyre for some Nankangs/ other mid range tyre.
The question I have relates to wether or not I should replace my rears at the same time. The rears have Pirelli P6000 with at a guess 5 to 6 mm of tread left, so pretty healthy. I was thinking of getting 4 new Eagles for £392 all fitted and selling the Pirelli P6000 for hopefully £100 for both.
What are your thoughts on getting 2 new tyres and mixing with the Pirelli's, or should I get 4 new ones!?
Cheers.
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The tyres with the most grip, (generally the newer tyres) should be fitted to the rear. This produces the most stable handling. My advice is swap the rears to the front and put the new tyres on the rear, unless of course you are rich enough to replace them all.
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The tyres with the most grip, (generally the newer tyres) should be fitted to the rear. This produces the most stable handling. My advice is swap the rears to the front and put the new tyres on the rear, unless of course you are rich enough to replace them all.
Agree 100% :smiley:
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Also, the Pirellis will wear quicker on the front, meaning you'll need to replace them anyway in the near future. So you will be able to have a matching set of four then, but will have had your full monies worth from the original tyres.
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+1, eagles on the back, wear the Pirellis out then put new eagles on the back and semi used eagles on the front. This also means that you can go forward only replacing 2 tyres at a time which hurts a bit less :wink:
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Sounds like excellent advice!
I will put the Pirelli's at the front and new Eagles at the back, sound advice, cheers!
:smiley:
Gaz
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Rite i'm going to get abuse but i always put the newer tyres on the front as these are the driven wheels and hold the weight of the engine the rears as you know to none of the driving and have little weight of them this is me anyway, i've heard good things about the f1's don't rate pirellis too soft i'm sticking with the falken f453 never buy nankang for my gtd
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Rite i'm going to get abuse but i always put the newer tyres on the front as these are the driven wheels and hold the weight of the engine the rears as you know to none of the driving and have little weight of them this is me anyway, i've heard good things about the f1's don't rate pirellis too soft i'm sticking with the falken f453 never buy nankang for my gtd
Yeah that's what I was thinking, I've ordered some 2 x F1's as my fronts need replacing badly (2mm) - conti sport 3's on the rear with 5mm tread. All in £230 fitted which I thought was ok.
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Yea i got conti's on the back need changing this year shoulders have some cracking on them but thats down to age i think i will try the f1's at some point but i had to replace fronts and couldn't really afford the f1's at the time an because i have mild ocd i'd like the tyres matching lol
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Thats not a bad price fitted on my tyres they are £121 fitted the falkens fk is £98
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Rite i'm going to get abuse but i always put the newer tyres on the front as these are the driven wheels and hold the weight of the engine the rears as you know to none of the driving and have little weight of them this is me anyway, i've heard good things about the f1's don't rate pirellis too soft i'm sticking with the falken f453 never buy nankang for my gtd
It's much safer to have a fwd car which under steers rather than over steers, old tyres on the rear will promote the latter.
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But oversteer is far more fun :wink:
J
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I disagree the rears are not slicks and oversteer can be generated by bad driving lifting off in to corners etc i drove to stafford yesterday from wales with a lot of standing warer was aqua planning all over the shop (tht was fun :) and neither the front nor rear out performed the other
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Rite i'm going to get abuse but i always put the newer tyres on the front as these are the driven wheels and hold the weight of the engine the rears as you know to none of the driving and have little weight of them this is me anyway
Most cars are set up to understeer. In the event of taking a corner a little too fast, or taking evasive action, if understeer occurs, the natural reaction to this will be to lift off the throttle. This in turn could result a snap to lift off oversteer, which the vast majority of average Joe drivers wouldn't be able to deal with and would end up backwards through the sticks.
By fitting better tyres to the rear, they are slightly less prone to breaking away, therefore reducing the possibility of lift off oversteer.
Personally I try to rotate my tyres front to back, so that they all wear out at the same time and I get to buy a set of four all at once. It is slightly harder on the pocket at the time, but ultimately doesn't cost any more.
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With reference rotating i also do this as the front wear a lot quicker than the rears to so you can longer out of a set of tyres
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The tyres with the most grip, (generally the newer tyres) should be fitted to the rear. This produces the most stable handling. My advice is swap the rears to the front and put the new tyres on the rear, unless of course you are rich enough to replace them all.
Mustard is bang on. Always most important to have the new tyres on the rear on a front wheel drive car. Harder to control a slide if the rear breaks free (know this from experience!). It's much easier to control under steer.
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I have in the past put the brand new tyres on the rear and move the rears to the front. What I have found then is that the handling characteristics then feel a bit weird initially as the front tyres (ex rears) obviously have had different wear characteristics placed on them, as they have not been the steering wheels.
I do find then that the new fronts seem to wear much faster from that point so it is probably not too long until those need to be replaced anyway.
I do support the argument for the best grip to rearward.
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Also think about this the front does minimum 60% of braking if you have to slam on the nose is gonna dip look a good un which tyres are gonna grip? The front like s**t to a blanket what are the rear gonna do? Nothing as they will be nearly of the tarmac i'll stick mine you stick to urs :)
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Take on board the comments however my conti's are almost new and have about 5mm so swapping them to the front wouldn't make that much difference surely? understand if my rears were more worn.
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I have the newon the front an when i need a new pair of rears i put the part worns on the bk
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I think both arguments have valid points, but for me I would have the best tyre (newest with most grip) on the front rather than the back. Simpley as this is best for emergency breaking and traction which I think are more likely to be factors than loosing the rears for most everyday driving scenario's.
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As i said :smiley: don' want to rub anyone up the wrong way i actually like this forum no arseholes like e38