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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: davidgtrr34 on 01 January 2014, 21:50
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I was wondering has anyone used these rods or would anyone recommend any other ones
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My bad I forgot the link :grin:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TECHNO5-Forged-Steel-Conrods-Pleuel-Bielle-H-Beam-VW-Audi-Seat-Skoda-1-8T-20v-/270851423292?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f1000bc3c
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Not seen anyone use them, I have integrated engineering conrods in mine.
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Not seen anyone use them, I have integrated engineering conrods in mine.
have you any link for them and ill have a look
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Should be on integrated engineering's website, don't have the link at hand
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Should be on integrated engineering's website, don't have the link at hand
I found these ones. they look good and not a bad price
http://www.performancebyie.com/integrated-engineering-1-8t-144x19-drop-in-rods-vw-audi
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Those are integrated engineering rods, most members on here use them
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thanks I think ill go for the integrated rods.
Do you no if there clutches are any good
http://www.performancebyie.com/clutchmasters-fx500-clutch-kit-for-vw-02a-02j-transmission-single-mass
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That's a clutchmaster clutch, integrated engineering just supply. I haven't looked into clutchmaster and never used them before so I can't comment.
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That's a clutchmaster clutch, integrated engineering just supply. I haven't looked into clutchmaster and never used them before so I can't comment.
Fair enough thanks anyway
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Add riffel drilling to that aswell ($100) and do you get custom charges in NI? They about the £500 mark from the uk.
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Add riffel drilling to that aswell ($100) and do you get custom charges in NI? They about the £500 mark from the uk.
£500 import duty?! :grin:
Car parts have an import duty rate of 2.7% and VAT of 20%, meaning that you'll pay a little over £80 in import charges.
http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/saved_calculations/view_details/186883128/ (http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/saved_calculations/view_details/186883128/)
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Add riffel drilling to that aswell ($100) and do you get custom charges in NI? They about the £500 mark from the uk.
£500 import duty?! :grin:
Car parts have an import duty rate of 2.7% and VAT of 20%, meaning that you'll pay a little over £80 in import charges.
http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/saved_calculations/view_details/186883128/ (http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/saved_calculations/view_details/186883128/)
he has probably meant total cost :wink:
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Ok, Now I know I'm going to get flamed for suggesting this but hey ho I will talk from experience.
MAXSPEEDING rods on ebay are absolutely fine to use. They are non riffle drilled but they are fine.
There are many many huge power 1.8t's running these exact rods.
Few guys on Facebook running these on 500bhp cars with no drama.
I have a set to fit to mine also. I have used them and seen them used in N/A cars revving to 9k+ RPM with no issues.
All the big name brand rods are made in china so don't let that aspect put you off.
Dan@BeachBuggyTurbos runs these rods in his Audi TT as well.
If you offer him £190 he will accept it. I have just purchased 2 more sets just yesterday.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-VW-Passat-Golf-Gti-1-8L-TT-2-0L-16V-20V-Conrods-Conrod-Connecting-Rod-Rods-/151029073585?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item232a08c6b1
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Ok, Now I know I'm going to get flamed for suggesting this but hey ho I will talk from experience.
MAXSPEEDING rods on ebay are absolutely fine to use. They are non riffle drilled but they are fine.
There are many many huge power 1.8t's running these exact rods.
Few guys on Facebook running these on 500bhp cars with no drama.
I have a set to fit to mine also. I have used them and seen them used in N/A cars revving to 9k+ RPM with no issues.
All the big name brand rods are made in china so don't let that aspect put you off.
Dan@BeachBuggyTurbos runs these rods in his Audi TT as well.
If you offer him £190 he will accept it. I have just purchased 2 more sets just yesterday.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-VW-Passat-Golf-Gti-1-8L-TT-2-0L-16V-20V-Conrods-Conrod-Connecting-Rod-Rods-/151029073585?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item232a08c6b1
im only going to be running 400bhp. are you sure that there ok because I don't want to have to do them again
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I wouldn't of bought them if they were poo!
Everyone bangs on about how important riffle drilled are and I agree if you can afford to pay extra then go for it by all means.
These rods are just as strong as any other and it has been proved they are slightly lighter than other brands.
If they are good enough for cars running 450-500bhp+ they are fine for me.
Dan has been running decent power through his for quite a while now.
It's your choice how you spend your monies but for me these are a very good option.
Found out yesterday that there are a few guys on FaceBook vag page running 500bhp through them.
Ill never get near that so they will do me just fine.
Like I say I bought another 2 sets last night to fit in friends cars.
The people on FB are running them with ACL rod bearings which is what I bought.
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I wouldn't of bought them if they were poo!
Everyone bangs on about how important riffle drilled are and I agree if you can afford to pay extra then go for it by all means.
These rods are just as strong as any other and it has been proved they are slightly lighter than other brands.
If they are good enough for cars running 450-500bhp+ they are fine for me.
Dan has been running decent power through his for quite a while now.
It's your choice how you spend your monies but for me these are a very good option.
Found out yesterday that there are a few guys on FaceBook vag page running 500bhp through them.
Ill never get near that so they will do me just fine.
Like I say I bought another 2 sets last night to fit in friends cars.
The people on FB are running them with ACL rod bearings which is what I bought.
Cheers man. I was going with acl race bearings anyway. ill do a bit more research but if there good ill buy them.
do you no if the original piston rings are ok or will I need new ones.
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That's impossible to know, some people only change the rods and bigend bearings.
A compression check whilst its still together would help make that decision,
It seems rude not to fit rings since its coming apart,
For the sake of and extra £60-£80 for a set of rings. I'm fitting Goatze rings to mine.
I won't be fitting it all until the summer..
I'm not an expert or anything, I have a few friends who will be lending a hand with the install.
Im away from home at the moment but as soon as I get back I'll post some pics of the rods.
There was a huge debate on FB about riffle drilled Vs Non and it seems most of those who were shouting that riffle drilled are the only rods to buy were the people who didn't have any kind of rods other than standard.
There is no denying that they are better, But is it as important as people make out?
Seems not as for every 1 person who posted stating they had riffle drilled, another 2 posted that they had non-drilled rods in their cars.
IE still sell Non-drilled rods, If they were that bad I really doubt a big name like IE would put their name on them.
It all comes down to budget, If you can spare £500 for a set of rods plus bearings and fitting kit then go for it.
I don't have that money so I bought these instead.
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do you no where I can get the full kit. I would have no problems spending 500 or 600 on a kit.
also I don't think that rifle drilling is important unless your going above 500bhp.
As for fitting it I have never done rods before but I bought a Haynes manual so ill give it a go myself
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Issam Abed does a full kit for 800usd, Think it works out about £600.
Comes with eveything, including cambelt, head gasket kit, water pump. 2 oil filters, bearings, sump sealer.
Its a good kit.
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The only thing that worries me is gapping the rings, although after speaking with a few people who have far more knowledge than Ill ever have, they say quite often they don't need gapping due to the bores being worn.
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I found this kit but it doesn't include rods
http://www.performancebyie.com/1-8t-ultimate-rod-install-kit-late-06a
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Add riffel drilling to that aswell ($100) and do you get custom charges in NI? They about the £500 mark from the uk.
£500 import duty?! :grin:
Car parts have an import duty rate of 2.7% and VAT of 20%, meaning that you'll pay a little over £80 in import charges.
http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/saved_calculations/view_details/186883128/ (http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/saved_calculations/view_details/186883128/)
Sorry i meant you can pick them up in the UK for £500 mark. Lol
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Il put my hands up and say i dont know jack shizzle about rifle drilling. Could someone tell me what that is for and what are the benefits of it?
As said by someone else, people are shouting about riffle drilling and also read that its best to riffle drill them.
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Rifle drilling is where they drill a hole up the rod from the big end to the small end where the wrist pin sits. Allows a pressurized oil feed to the wrist pin which lubricates and cools it more effectively other than just being splash lubricated by the oil squirter at the bottom of a stroke. Most people recommend this on daily drivers as the oil squirters dont work amazingly well at low oil pressures, so all that low rpm driving round town will cause wear. If you dont go for rifle drilling make sure you buy quality bearings. And a quick one on piston rings, I'd change mine if I was doing this, I'd also re hone the bores to ensure they bed in correctly. Found a pretty extensive video goide on youtube a while ago on how to do all this. Here's part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPYIUylUW9I
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Stick with what works!
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Just to stir it up a little, we're stocking ZRP H-Beam rods, I can also get PEC rods that are quite a bit cheaper, tend to work out around £800 with a Wossner piston kit but my engineers get these in for my G60 builds, not looked into it for a 1.8T yet but drop me a PM if interested. I'm sure they'll be able to just get a rod kit.
Anyway, here's the ZRP's :wink:
http://www.onlychargeddubs.co.uk/products/1-8-2-0-g60-16v-1-8t-connecting-rods.html
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Does anyone no is the wrist pin 19mm or 20mm on an auq engine with stock pistons
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19mm
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19mm
cheers man I couldn't find a proper answer anywhere
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I will have 10 sets of rods on there way to me which I'll be selling on shortly
Hoping to have a few sets riffle drilled. Just trying to finalise things with the manufacturer.
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I will have 10 sets of rods on there way to me which I'll be selling on shortly
Hoping to have a few sets riffle drilled. Just trying to finalise things with the manufacturer.
much will you be selling them for
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Haven't worked it out completely yet but hoping to offer a kit similar to issam abed but with ACL race bearings instead of standard,
The full kit I'm hoping to be able to offer for around £450 give or take.
depends what deals i can get on the other parts like the headgasket kits and bearings but £450 seems doable.
Rods on there own I should be able to offer for £220 for Non-Riffle drilled and I'm still working out a price with the supplier for Riffle drilled.
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I will be offering a few sets out to people running hybrids at a reduced price in order to promote the brand.
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I will be offering a few sets out to people running hybrids at a reduced price in order to promote the brand.
i will be getting the k300 hybrid from Beach buggy turbo very shortly its the only thing i need then remap time got a other agu engine that i have striped will be rebuilding it with full forge parts also got other gearbox ready for the lsd to be fitted cant wait
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Ok cool, Once you have your hybrid Pm me if your interested and we can try to work something out.