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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: D-FINE on 12 December 2013, 16:31

Title: Car wont start
Post by: D-FINE on 12 December 2013, 16:31
Hi everyone

My car 08 gti ed30,battery is fully charged but just wont start.

The car has been stood for long periods without use(I know not a good idea)

wonder if anyone has maybe got a clue what might be up before I take it to stealers.

Thanks


edit.....
Just tried the engine start function on my battery charger and it started.
Is it possible the battery is knackered even though it says fully charged?
any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: bacillus on 12 December 2013, 23:13
You really need to check the voltage with a multimeter.
A battery that's left in a discharged state for a long time may become damaged beyond repair due to sulphation.
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: D-FINE on 13 December 2013, 01:30
Thanks will check that.
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: D-FINE on 20 December 2013, 16:03
ROUND 2......

Took car to dealers last week got new battery on £170 lighter,they did a diag on car and told me the suspect to non start was the starter motor £280 fitted which is my next port of call.

Now how come a car with 2070 miles on it the starter is knackered I just don't understand.

If I connect my battery charger with engine start on,it starts first time.

If anyone knows why it would start with engine start charger connected,and not off the brand new battery.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: bacillus on 20 December 2013, 16:34
Wow, a new battery for £170!  :shocked:

You could have bought two varta ones that are well above the oem spec for less money than that.
http://www.tayna.co.uk/E44-Varta-Silver-Car-Battery-577400078-P7726.html

IMO if the car starts with the charger connected then the issue is the battery for whatever reason is not providing enough amperage to crank the starter motor.
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: D-FINE on 20 December 2013, 16:41
That's with the diag included which was £60 plus fitting £20,so worked out around £90 for battery

I cant for the life of me see a new starter motor sorting this problem out,just don't know what to do..

Thanks again Bacillus.
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: Bellend on 21 December 2013, 12:59
How are you connecting your jump starter?

Directly to the battery or the negative on something else?
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: dTEA on 21 December 2013, 14:37
I dont get the starter motor being the issue if there is a enough with the charger connected.  Have you looked at the new battery and ensured its to the spec needed? Have you checked the battery terminals are good and tight? obvious I know but....
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: D-FINE on 21 December 2013, 14:46
How are you connecting your jump starter?

Directly to the battery or the negative on something else?

connecting it just how you would if you was just charging your battery.
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: D-FINE on 21 December 2013, 14:53
I dont get the starter motor being the issue if there is a enough with the charger connected.  Have you looked at the new battery and ensured its to the spec needed? Have you checked the battery terminals are good and tight? obvious I know but....

The spec of battery is more than up to the job.

terminals all tight


update...
just started first time,been out for half an hour,no problems.

I wondered if just starting the car in garage and letting it tick over and warm up but not actually going anywhere is causing it to gas the engine up maybe.

Thanks to dTEA,bellend,bacillus for the help on trying to solve it.
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: th3_f15t on 21 December 2013, 16:06
Not running it up through the rev range could be the cause. As far as I know, turbocharged engines need to be taken right through the rev range as the turbo will only receive clean oil when in use. Another knock on effect is the build up of carbon deposits in the cylinder head and exhaust. The pressure of the gas at a few thousand RPM maintained for a period of time (a.k.a. a trip on an A or M road) is needed to force the deposits out the system. An unused engine will clog up and struggle to run if left. Maybe run some Redex through the system to clean the deposits out.

I could be very wrong, but its what I've always been led to believe. So in short, yes, go for a drive every now and then.
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: D-FINE on 21 December 2013, 22:31
Thanks Mike,very well explained,i think that could be the problem or at least I hope.... :smiley:
Title: Re: Car wont start
Post by: Rhyso on 21 December 2013, 23:08
Every car needs a bit of 'Italian tuning' every now and again  :evil: