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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: 2014GTi on 10 December 2013, 10:16
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Hi folks,
I have a couple of questions regarding the 19" Santiago Alloy option if thats ok :smiley:
Did your car come with a space saver tyre with the 19" Santiago alloy option?
Did your car come with 225/35 Pirelli tyres or 235/35?
I ask because my car came with a spare space saver tyre which I wasnt expecting :shocked:
All the marketing material and my order form specifically state that the tyres should be 235/35, whats gone wrong? :cry:
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I think even the 18" came with 225's - no one got 235's - another VW marketing blunder
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yeah the only 235 ones are the 19" pretoria on the golf R according to the website
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So this means I do not have 8" (235) wide tyres as I thought I would... these are the same width as the standard 18" alloys :sad: 7.5" (225) wide.
Surely this is wrong and should have been corrected? :huh:
Anybody spoken to their dealers about this blunder? :rolleyes:
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225 wide for sure.
A 19 inch spare would be something!
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225 wide for sure.
A 19 inch spare would be something!
I got a space saver... will check its size later on today. :embarrassed:
My dealership has been great so I doubt I'm going to kick up a fuss about the tyres but its perhaps worth mentioning to Volkswagen?
There is no cost difference in the actual tyres either so I am not out of pocket (£).... just missing 0.5" of extra grip :huh:
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The width in inches, 7.5" or 8" is the width of the wheel rim. 225 or 235 is the width of the tyre. I really wouldn't be worried about it.
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Think positive: a 225 tyre will be about £5 cheaper than a 235 per corner and will give you an extra 0.1mpg!!! :laugh:
VW used 7.5 x 19 and 225 tyres on the mk6 GTI too. And 8 x 19 and 235's on the mk6 R.
Yet the R 19's are cheaper to spec and look to be of a higher quality of manufacture than a GTI/D upgrade to 19's….
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My 19s are wrapped with pirelli 225 35 19s and got an 18" space saver
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It took VW about 6 months to eventually correct their marketing stuff to reflect that 19" wheels do not in fact get the advertised 235 tyres (GTI/GTD). Has anyone been back for some compensation yet??
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It took VW about 6 months to eventually correct their marketing stuff to reflect that 19" wheels do not in fact get the advertised 235 tyres (GTI/GTD). Has anyone been back for some compensation yet??
I haven't but its not really a dealership problem is it? Perhaps Volkswagen UK? :cry:
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It took VW about 6 months to eventually correct their marketing stuff to reflect that 19" wheels do not in fact get the advertised 235 tyres (GTI/GTD). Has anyone been back for some compensation yet??
How would you get compensation for a missing 1cm of tyre width??? Seriously… glad I don't work in sales, there'd be a lot of people walking out with flat noses!!! :laugh:
Looking on the R forum there seems to be the same issues with the VW press literature.
A multi million pounds business can't get some very basic stuff right - the modern thing of employing people with degrees who sit there playing on electronic toys all day at work instead of paying someone with a bit of common sense who actually gives a sh!t about what they're doing…
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It took VW about 6 months to eventually correct their marketing stuff to reflect that 19" wheels do not in fact get the advertised 235 tyres (GTI/GTD). Has anyone been back for some compensation yet??
How would you get compensation for a missing 1cm of tyre width??? Seriously… glad I don't work in sales, there'd be a lot of people walking out with flat noses!!! :laugh:
Looking on the R forum there seems to be the same issues with the VW press literature.
A multi million pounds business can't get some very basic stuff right - the modern thing of employing people with degrees who sit there playing on electronic toys all day at work instead of paying someone with a bit of common sense who actually gives a sh!t about what they're doing…
Haha your right... its not worth pursuing to be honest..... :cool:
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It took VW about 6 months to eventually correct their marketing stuff to reflect that 19" wheels do not in fact get the advertised 235 tyres (GTI/GTD). Has anyone been back for some compensation yet??
How would you get compensation for a missing 1cm of tyre width??? Seriously… glad I don't work in sales, there'd be a lot of people walking out with flat noses!!! :laugh:
Looking on the R forum there seems to be the same issues with the VW press literature.
A multi million pounds business can't get some very basic stuff right - the modern thing of employing people with degrees who sit there playing on electronic toys all day at work instead of paying someone with a bit of common sense who actually gives a sh!t about what they're doing…
A set of the tyres that you were promised by VW when you ordered your car? :grin:... As you say - probably good you don't work in sales, you might go home with a flat nose :grin: :grin:
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Hi,
ok my GTi has come with a 18" space saver spare tyre. Shouldn't this be 19" ?
Does the normal 18" GTi alloys come with 17" space saver spare tyres?
:embarrassed:
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The wheel size is not important as it only needs to clear the brakes. The overall diameter matters, depends on the tyre size fitted to it.
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The wheel size is not important as it only needs to clear the brakes. The overall diameter matters, depends on the tyre size fitted to it.
Ah ok, yes it does look like a thick tyre.... hopefully they haven't put in a GTi 18" variant? :rolleyes:
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I think you'll find every car, gti or gtd, gets the same space saving wheel. I doubt any have a 5 th alloy, and it would be a crap spare with a low profile 19 inch skinny tyre.
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Who's feeling wealthy enough to spend out on a few spare Santiagos so they don't have to run a space saver, only £550 per spare wheel…
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/19-Inches-Summer-Wheels-VW-Santiago-Edtion-35-EOS-Golf-5-6-7-GTi-R-line-Touran-/161171237797?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item25868deba5
Go on, treat yourselves before Xmas!
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Nearly £2200 on eBay now.
Makes the factory fit option seem relatively a bargain.
The Pirelli tyres alone are £190 per corner. :)
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Geez that's nuts. Not to mention the fact they're in Germany so shipping is 92 quid and you have to buy your own centrecaps on top.
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Nearly £2200 on eBay now.
Makes the factory fit option seem relatively a bargain.
The Pirelli tyres alone are £190 per corner. :)
But when you pay £1000 to upgrade to 19's when you order the car, you don't get the original 18's as well.
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Nearly £2200 on eBay now.
Makes the factory fit option seem relatively a bargain.
The Pirelli tyres alone are £190 per corner. :)
But when you pay £1000 to upgrade to 19's when you order the car, you don't get the original 18's as well.
Very true but if you try and order original Santiago's I bet they cost not less than £300 per alloy wheel... so thats £1200 in parts alone to buy them afterwards.
They are not cheap items to be honest. :sad:
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Are they the original Mk7 Golf part? They're listed as 7.5J width, but VW advertises 8J for the Mk7 (assuming of course that it's not just another VW typo...).
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Are they the original Mk7 Golf part? They're listed as 7.5J width, but VW advertises 8J for the Mk7 (assuming of course that it's not just another VW typo...).
Its a Volkswagen typo..... along with the tyre specifications.
They advertise the 19" Santiagos as having 19x8" with 235/35 tyres.... but in reality what we get is 19x7.5" with 225/35 tyres. :smiley:
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Nearly £2200 on eBay now.
Makes the factory fit option seem relatively a bargain.
The Pirelli tyres alone are £190 per corner. :)
But when you pay £1000 to upgrade to 19's when you order the car, you don't get the original 18's as well.
Very true but if you try and order original Santiago's I bet they cost not less than £300 per alloy wheel... so thats £1200 in parts alone to buy them afterwards.
They are not cheap items to be honest. :sad:
I needed to buy a new 18" Vancouver a couple of years ago. That retailed somewhere around £500 with the VAT from VW or TPS. Yours estimate of £300 a wheel might be a bit on the conservative side. Then you've got to put tyres on them, and as you say, at £190 a corner, that's £760.
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Yep your right £300 is low :grin:
So the moral of the story, if you want 19" Santiago's, best order them from factory :whistle:
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I'm not over struck on them, so if I wanted a 19" upgrade, I would probable go for a BBS wheel.
However the way I would go about it would be to run the car with the standard wheels on until the tyres had around 3mm of tread left, then buy a set of new BBS wheels and tyres. Offsetting the cost of the tyres that I would have needed to buy soon anyway, would make them around the same as the £1000 factory upgrade. However when I come to sell the car, I'll either have a set of original Austins with usable tyres, or the BBS's that I could sell on and make a bit more money back.
If you've paid out £1000 for the factory upgrade, you'll never see that money again.
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You rarely see money pack in a positive way from buying cars in the first place.... they look great and thats what did it for me :cool: option = ticked.
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If the standard 18"s had looked like the 18"s on the mk5 & mk6 I would definitely have went with the Santiagos. The Austins on the Mk7 just look so much nicer IMO and therefore didn't see any need to move to the bigger wheels.
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The price of £300 a wheel is very conservative if the price of Glendales on the Mk6 is anything to go by. The German deals on e-bay at around c£2000 are considerably cheaper than buying from your local VW dealer.
Astronomical mark-up given the price that the manufacturers sell to VW, the cost to VW will be less than £100/wheel according to a friend selling OEM to VW in Germany. To give you an idea, A 14" alloy rim for a Polo some years ago was less than £15 !!