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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Len on 03 December 2013, 11:51
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So how do I do it?
prefer to leave rads and aircon stuff insitu. Will be taking bonnet off completely.
Will I be able to leave the gearbox in the car?
Do driveshafts have to be removed?
Thought I would ask here before I consult Haynes! :grin:
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I assume you don't want to follow this method? :whistle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8j-Hjb-WrY
However the last time I pulled an engine it turned out to be easier to remove the gearbox from the car separately from the engine before trying to remove the engine to give you more room to work with.
We left the driveshafts connected to the hubs when removing the engine, but it might be safer to just remove them all together then having them hang around in the bay if you pull the gearbox too.
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I assume you don't want to follow this method? :whistle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8j-Hjb-WrY
However the last time I pulled an engine it turned out to be easier to remove the gearbox from the car separately from the engine before trying to remove the engine to give you more room to work with.
We left the driveshafts connected to the hubs when removing the engine, but it might be safer to just remove them all together then having them hang around in the bay if you pull the gearbox too.
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No not that method !!! :laugh: :laugh:
By the sound of it I might as well take everything out then!
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I know it's a pain because of discharging the air on, but the easiest way by far is taking the front end off then you can pull everything out of the car from the front in one lump.
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No way am I disconnecting the aircon!
Sure I can do it without, will just have to hang the pump off something.
Was more interested in if I can leave the gearbox in
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The biggest problem is the gearbox has one mount on the end of it, the whole other side of the box is supported by the engine.
I don't think you would have enough room to manoeuvre the engine out of the bay with the box still in the car.
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There will be enough room to get the engine and box assembly out together. When I broke a 16v for spares a couple of years ago the chap that had the engine got the lot out together without any drama.
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As far im aware they can both be taken out in one piece with the front of the car removed.
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The biggest problem is the gearbox has one mount on the end of it, the whole other side of the box is supported by the engine.
I don't think you would have enough room to manoeuvre the engine out of the bay with the box still in the car.
So how would you do a clutch replacement then?
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As far im aware they can both be taken out in one piece with the front of the car removed.
Thats the point!
I want to leave the rads and the aircon gear intact, just move it out of the way.
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The biggest problem is the gearbox has one mount on the end of it, the whole other side of the box is supported by the engine.
I don't think you would have enough room to manoeuvre the engine out of the bay with the box still in the car.
So how would you do a clutch replacement then?
When I have done the clutch I have supported the engine with a jack/stand then removed/removed the bolts from the front engine mount and the gearbox mount, after the bolts holding the box to the engine are removed there's a bit of wiggling it around to loosen and extract the gearbox from the bay.
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Unbolt drive shafts leave the cups in
Take starter motor out and ancillaries
Support engine with a jack undo all mounts except box
Support box with jack remove last bolt from box mount and bell housing and wiggle out
And on refit line the clutch up so the shaft goes in easily
For whole engine I would pull of coolant hoses and all loom , disconnect exhaust remove battery and stuff out the bay in the way and lift the lot out the top with a engine crane
You can leave the box in but will need to find something to support it and is a right pain to get the input shaft out from the engine to clutch is a tight wiggle so just take the lot out
You can m
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As far im aware they can both be taken out in one piece with the front of the car removed.
Thats the point!
I want to leave the rads and the aircon gear intact, just move it out of the way.
Why is this mate?
You are aware that you can completely remove the front end by just undoing four bolts right? You can leave bumper, grill, lights, rads as one piece? Its only four bolts to do back up too.
So much easier this way. You are making a easy job hard. And for the sake of?? Re gassing aircon?
Only cots £40 lol
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same as tweed says dude on my old 1.8 se just took the whole front end off in one peice then the removal was easy i just propped the engine up and rolled the car back then did the opposite to refit did the engine change alone in 6 hours and for the sake of re-gassing the aircon i would do it that way especially as hiring a hoist would be almost the same cost
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Do not wish to breathe in noxious gases!
Dont have room for an engine crane so will be using a block and tackle, so engine will go straight up!
So no need to take front off!
The bonnet is coming right off as I am swapping it for the vented one.
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Take it outside and crack it off.
Think it'll be tricky getting the pump out with it connected.
I you really won't you can hang the rad out the way but then you risk rupturing a hose.
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Aircon pump will be on the floor or tied up with a piece of wire.
Have done this operation many times on a Pug 405 just not on a Golf. (3 times on the Mi16 and 5 times on the other 405)
(also changed gearboxes 4 times!)
Sure I will work out how I can do it my way.
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The len way :grin: :grin:
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hey if it works dont knock it! :grin:
Have decided anyway to take all out as I am going to fit all new engine/gearbox mounts.
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Take it outside and crack it off.
Seriously? Have you no idea of the laws you go around breaking on a daily basis?
Under the Environmental Protection Act 1990, the
deliberate release of refrigerant into the atmosphere is
illegal. The use of R12 is now banned in the UK.
So don't 'take it outside and crack it off' especially not as (and I'm using this in the loosest sense of the word) professional mechanic.
Source:
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg349.pdf
Len, take it to a garage and get the refrigerant discharged, then remove the front of the car - it's key to easy access to the motor and gearbox.
If I was doing what you're planning on doing I'd just hook the motor and gearbox out together and attend to them on the floor/stand/crane.
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Len, take it to a garage and get the refrigerant discharged, then remove the front of the car - it's key to easy access to the motor and gearbox.
If I was doing what you're planning on doing I'd just hook the motor and gearbox out together and attend to them on the floor/stand/crane.
Thats what I plan to do DH makes clutch fitting easierfor one thing.