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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: paul yeo on 27 November 2013, 21:17
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Hi I have a 2000 w reg 1.8t with a arz engine code. I'm looking for a bit more power and was wondering about swapping the turbo for a k04. How easy is this? Is it bolt on or is it like everything vw and not that simple. Thanks in advance
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get a k300 hybrid from a user on here :wink:
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How much is a bit more power?
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depends what you want. how much power and how much money you want to put into it.
if you want a cheep bit more power get a k03s and a map
if you want more then look at hybrids such as k03 with tt225 compressor wheel, will see up to 270 ish with that.
or if your fixed on k04 then look at the k04-025 I think it is that's a direct bolt on, some are bolt on some require different manifolds
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K03s and mods or k300 from beach buggy turbos and same relevant mods for 300bhp
K04 is pointless nowadays as the max ever produced from a k04 is 313 bhp but average is 280 - 300bhp but you also have to get a different downpipe and oil/water lines, tip and charge pipe
So k300 ftw!
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K03s and mods or k300 from beach buggy turbos and same relevant mods for 300bhp
K04 is pointless nowadays as the max ever produced from a k04 is 313 bhp but average is 280 - 300bhp but you also have to get a different downpipe and oil/water lines, tip and charge pipe
So k300 ftw!
Nar mate i ran 311bhp at R Tech"s rolling road day last month, and I'm having a custom inlet manifold built by good old Bill at Badger5, and a 57mm ABD Racing big bore intake tube fitted at the same time, which will see it well past 313bhp :grin:
I'll smash that record if its true !!!
Will put dyno pics up to prove as well
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It was 310bhp at R Tech but ill still smash that record :grin:(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a543/mattyfairbro240579/My%20Vw%20Golf%20Mk4/IMG_2642_zpsb3feaac3.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/mattyfairbro240579/media/My%20Vw%20Golf%20Mk4/IMG_2642_zpsb3feaac3.jpg.html)
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How you putting all that power down on a fwd.. you must have some serious wheel spin :grin:
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Don't wanna spend crazy money to be fair and would like to see 200bhp. Got a front mount intercooler, re circ valve and 4.0 bar fuel pressure reg. Wondering if a re map on the standard turbo would be the best option or upgrade turbo then re map
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Get a k03s and get rid if the 4bar for for a standard 3 bar one and get a exhaust, tip and custom map and hit 225+ :smiley:
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I'm in the same boat bud :laugh: Where might oneself find these k300 turbos? :whistle:
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From beach buggy turbos dude
You can Find him on his website (which is hard to find)
Or on face book (beach buggy turbos)
Or pm him on here (littco...but he hasn't been on for a whole I don't think)
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K04's aren't a waste of time imo,
You could do a K04 conversion for half of what a K300 costs and still have money for the map.
K04 conversions are good value for money.
My LCR made 275bhp@ Badger5, Standard Ko4, Standard exhaust/downpipe and Standard coolers.
It was de-tuned to 262 whilst I sort a few bits and add some extra's
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You can't get a decent k04, stainless manifold and downpipe for less then £450 really which yeah I know is £300 less then a k300 but you have no idea how long the k04 will last and then you might need to rebuild it etc and also will want to uprate the actuator
If you get a k300 you know it's gonna be 100% and last a long time :cool:
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I agree with you but some people are not able or want to spend £750-£800 on just a turbo,
The trusty K04 shouldn't be ruled out as a good conversion. Stainless manifold isn't really needed, the cast is Ok.
For those trying to achieve a good power upgrade on a budget should consider it,
270-280bhp is achievable and will more than enough for most coming from a standard or stage1 K03s car.
Plenty of good K04's out there, Ill be selling one just after xmas.
Dans turbo's are great, infact he is building my K04 right now, But not within every ones budget.
I feel they shouldn't be steered away from going K04, It's a great conversion and very do-able on a tightish budget.
And if budget is no problem just go with Dans K04 Hybrid which is breaking 330 which cost less than the k300
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get rid if the 4bar for for a standard 3 bar
+1 on this.
mate of mine made the error of thinking a 4bar fuel pump and reg means more petrol in the engine, means more power & any unburnt fuel out the back will egnite and you will get bigger flames.
anyway his car is now being broken for spares or repaire after the over fueling caused one of his pistons to go. he litterally has 3.5 pistons :D
(also if anyone wants anything from a ibiza cupra let me know. full engine rebuild a year ago ish, few things done to it) :grin:
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just intercooler and remap (and other supporting mods) will see 200 bhp mate, my ARZ on stage one with just air filter and recirc valve saw 191 bhp, so air filter, exhaust etc will see 200... that's gonna be the cheapest and easiest way :wink:
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just intercooler and remap (and other supporting mods) will see 200 bhp mate, my ARZ on stage one with just air filter and recirc valve saw 191 bhp, so air filter, exhaust etc will see 200... that's gonna be the cheapest and easiest way :wink:
It most likely won't dude as the k03 will max out as it just can't flow enough air.
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I agree with you but some people are not able or want to spend £750-£800 on just a turbo,
The trusty K04 shouldn't be ruled out as a good conversion. Stainless manifold isn't really needed, the cast is Ok.
For those trying to achieve a good power upgrade on a budget should consider it,
270-280bhp is achievable and will more than enough for most coming from a standard or stage1 K03s car.
Plenty of good K04's out there, Ill be selling one just after xmas.
Dans turbo's are great, infact he is building my K04 right now, But not within every ones budget.
I feel they shouldn't be steered away from going K04, It's a great conversion and very do-able on a tightish budget.
And if budget is no problem just go with Dans K04 Hybrid which is breaking 330 which cost less than the k300
Whos this dan guy? Its not beach buggy turbo aka littco? How much did the hybrid cost? What is it hybrided with?
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Will take the 4 bar reg out this weekend then. Out of my comfort zone with these 1.8t. Always had 16v and vr6 engines before and I know where I stand with them.
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I agree with you but some people are not able or want to spend £750-£800 on just a turbo,
The trusty K04 shouldn't be ruled out as a good conversion. Stainless manifold isn't really needed, the cast is Ok.
For those trying to achieve a good power upgrade on a budget should consider it,
270-280bhp is achievable and will more than enough for most coming from a standard or stage1 K03s car.
Plenty of good K04's out there, Ill be selling one just after xmas.
Dans turbo's are great, infact he is building my K04 right now, But not within every ones budget.
I feel they shouldn't be steered away from going K04, It's a great conversion and very do-able on a tightish budget.
And if budget is no problem just go with Dans K04 Hybrid which is breaking 330 which cost less than the k300
This is good advice, I certainly wouldn't rule out a KO4. It's not all about peak power figures anyway :wink:
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Might be picking up a K04-001 later lol
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I agree with you but some people are not able or want to spend £750-£800 on just a turbo,
The trusty K04 shouldn't be ruled out as a good conversion. Stainless manifold isn't really needed, the cast is Ok.
For those trying to achieve a good power upgrade on a budget should consider it,
270-280bhp is achievable and will more than enough for most coming from a standard or stage1 K03s car.
Plenty of good K04's out there, Ill be selling one just after xmas.
Dans turbo's are great, infact he is building my K04 right now, But not within every ones budget.
I feel they shouldn't be steered away from going K04, It's a great conversion and very do-able on a tightish budget.
And if budget is no problem just go with Dans K04 Hybrid which is breaking 330 which cost less than the k300
Whos this dan guy? Its not beach buggy turbo aka littco? How much did the hybrid cost? What is it hybrided with?
Dan, littco, beachbuggy are all the same guy haha
I think they are hybrids made with custom wheels etc not just bits from other turbos
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I agree with you but some people are not able or want to spend £750-£800 on just a turbo,
The trusty K04 shouldn't be ruled out as a good conversion. Stainless manifold isn't really needed, the cast is Ok.
For those trying to achieve a good power upgrade on a budget should consider it,
270-280bhp is achievable and will more than enough for most coming from a standard or stage1 K03s car.
Plenty of good K04's out there, Ill be selling one just after xmas.
Dans turbo's are great, infact he is building my K04 right now, But not within every ones budget.
I feel they shouldn't be steered away from going K04, It's a great conversion and very do-able on a tightish budget.
And if budget is no problem just go with Dans K04 Hybrid which is breaking 330 which cost less than the k300
This is good advice, I certainly wouldn't rule out a KO4. It's not all about peak power figures anyway :wink:
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To be fair if your starting from scratch with a standard car etc then if you after about 280 bhp a k04 is decent way to go
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If you already have k03 mods such as a k03 downpipe and inter cooler etc then I would say its a definitely makes more sense to get a k300! :cool:
The k300 has a awesome power curve and is definitely not a "peak power turbo" and have also been proven to hit 300bhp+ regularly whereas most k04's won't hit 300.
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Dan is BeachBuggy, His baby k04 hybrid costs £625 and has just produced 339bhp and 359lbft at Badger5
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Might be picking up a K04-001 later lol
got a k04-022 sitting in my shed needing a rebuild if any use to you :smiley:
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I agree with you but some people are not able or want to spend £750-£800 on just a turbo,
The trusty K04 shouldn't be ruled out as a good conversion. Stainless manifold isn't really needed, the cast is Ok.
For those trying to achieve a good power upgrade on a budget should consider it,
270-280bhp is achievable and will more than enough for most coming from a standard or stage1 K03s car.
Plenty of good K04's out there, Ill be selling one just after xmas.
Dans turbo's are great, infact he is building my K04 right now, But not within every ones budget.
I feel they shouldn't be steered away from going K04, It's a great conversion and very do-able on a tightish budget.
And if budget is no problem just go with Dans K04 Hybrid which is breaking 330 which cost less than the k300
This is good advice, I certainly wouldn't rule out a KO4. It's not all about peak power figures anyway :wink:
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To be fair if your starting from scratch with a standard car etc then if you after about 280 bhp a k04 is decent way to go
BUT
If you already have k03 mods such as a k03 downpipe and inter cooler etc then I would say its a definitely makes more sense to get a k300! :cool:
The k300 has a awesome power curve and is definitely not a "peak power turbo" and have also been proven to hit 300bhp+ regularly whereas most k04's won't hit 300.
spot on!
looks immense the power curves from recent cars with correct supporting mods, 300ish peak and doesn't tail off at all.
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How you putting all that power down on a fwd.. you must have some serious wheel spin :grin:
i only get wheel spin in the wet, the cars amazing in the dry no wheel spin at all, plus I'm having a Quaife LSD fitted next week :smiley: was the first AGU Ko4 to break the 300bhp done by Nic at R Tech he developed the maps on the car a few years ago, and its still just as good if not better now :grin:
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How you putting all that power down on a fwd.. you must have some serious wheel spin :grin:
i only get wheel spin in the wet, the cars amazing in the dry no wheel spin at all, plus I'm having a Quaife LSD fitted next week :smiley: was the first AGU Ko4 to break the 300bhp done by Nic at R Tech he developed the maps on the car a few years ago, and its still just as good if not better now :grin:
cant be that long since toby owned the car :undecided:
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I can vouch for it being an animal lol
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How you putting all that power down on a fwd.. you must have some serious wheel spin :grin:
i only get wheel spin in the wet, the cars amazing in the dry no wheel spin at all, plus I'm having a Quaife LSD fitted next week :smiley: was the first AGU Ko4 to break the 300bhp done by Nic at R Tech he developed the maps on the car a few years ago, and its still just as good if not better now :grin:
cant be that long since toby owned the car :undecided:
I bought it off Wazzers mate Russ, very nice guy even brought it to Portsmouth for me to pick her up, think Russ got it off Toby and prior to that Hulmie had it :smiley:
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I can vouch for it being an animal lol
Haha... You can defo vouch for me Wazzer, didn't you lend her off Russ for a few days before i pick her up lol still can't believe how quick it really is myself and theres a few trick bits being fitted over the festive season so will defo be going ever quicker next year :grin: