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Title: Road Tax Query
Post by: WadGTI on 27 November 2013, 12:03
Hi Folks,

Just been 6 months on my gti today at a whopping £154.00. My V5 states my car puts out 202g/km so which according to the tax table, puts my car in the £154 bracket.

The other day, when out having a ciggy, I noticed a big merc sprinter van (removals van). So i quickly checked the tax disc and they have £115 for 6 months. What annoys me is that this van with is 3L+ diesel engine. This must be put out more co2 than the golf...surley?

Using the online calculation (For petrol engines divide 6760 by 40 ( 40 the car’s MPG), it works out at 169.

I would go as far to say I regulary get 40mpg on a average.

Can anyone put some insight on this matter or am I just being stupid?

Thanks
Title: Re: Road Tax Query
Post by: Bellend on 27 November 2013, 12:18
Might not be a 3.0 and diesels give out less CO2 apparently.

What you have done is tried to apply common sense, don't be silly.
Title: Re: Road Tax Query
Post by: Diamond Hell on 27 November 2013, 12:19
The CO2 figures are based on the published figures, which are elicited under test conditions.

Later vehicles have been made very good at delivering low figures under test conditions, which don't represent 'real world' driving.  This is why there is an increase in the difference between stated MPG and what you can actually expect in day to day motoring.

Currently at 21% difference vs 8% in 2001:

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fuels-and-environment/official-fuel-consumption-figures.html
Title: Re: Road Tax Query
Post by: dubber36 on 27 November 2013, 12:44
Light commercial vehicles are cheaper to tax than the equivalent car.

I've just checked the prices for Land Rover Discovery's. A 63 Plate 3.0 SDV6 Commercial costs £220 a year, whereas the equivalent car is £475
Title: Re: Road Tax Query
Post by: WadGTI on 27 November 2013, 13:19
Checked out the link supplied by Diamond Hell and makes sense.

I have always had the perception that petrols were always cleaner than diesel's. I meen most times on the motorway, all I have see if blue/black somoke coming from back off diesel's...and I think to my self...what damage is that doing.

Bellend...yeah they say diesel's produce less co2 than petrols according to the link.

Title: Re: Road Tax Query
Post by: Bellend on 27 November 2013, 14:10
TBH I'd rather pay less for my van and more for my car.

I need the van for earning money, the car is a luxury.
Title: Re: Road Tax Query
Post by: dTEA on 27 November 2013, 22:13
you wouldnt say that diesels are cleaner if you wasted the film Chasing Ice. 
Title: Re: Road Tax Query
Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 November 2013, 18:23
But I'd still say they use an awful lot less fuel!  :grin:
Title: Re: Road Tax Query
Post by: dTEA on 29 November 2013, 09:26
Can't argue with that DH  :grin:
But this is just one shot from the film that is quite eye opening. The sludge shot is even worse as you see the amount of that stuff in the depths of the glacier as it breaks down on time lapse. Some cracking photography as well

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u85/dTEA_Veedubs/EEA81B14-A6A5-4D76-9815-86BEFD0FC05B.jpg)
Title: Re: Road Tax Query
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 29 November 2013, 11:22
I have always had the perception that petrols were always cleaner than diesel's. I meen most times on the motorway, all I have see if blue/black somoke coming from back off diesel's...and I think to my self...what damage is that doing.
when new diesels are alot more cleaner, however with age they start to become a bit more polutant, thats why you never really see a new deisel making loads of smoke (unless its mapped etc). however old deisels make more...

not sure whether theres much difference in the amount of c02 that comes out but id imagine so...
Title: Re: Road Tax Query
Post by: dubber36 on 02 December 2013, 12:55
New diesels don't make smoke as most have some sort of DPF to get them through current emissions rules.

Even after been remapped, on the rolling road, there wasn't as much as a puff of smoke from the back of my 2.0 CR Passat.