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Title: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 19 November 2013, 16:20
hi I have just bought my v6 4mo and although I love the sound of my v6 I'm after something I can tune up as the v6 n/a are not very tunable which out of these would you say would be the best engine to put in my car
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: tweed on 19 November 2013, 16:44
Get a audi s3 engine and box.
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 19 November 2013, 16:51
Get a audi s3 engine and box.
+1 on this  :wink: or turbo the v6
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 19 November 2013, 17:09
ok cheers I was thinking the 1.8t would be a cheaper option as been looking on the internet and seen the s4 engine is a nightmare to install,I'm not interested in turboing the v6 as it's meant to be really expensive,would I just need the engine mounts of the golf 1.8t or would I need to have them fabricated to get the engine to fit also is it worth spending 1k plus on a bam engine as my old 1.8t was an agu and was told this is the best engine just need k04 turbo as can by an early 1.8t mot failure for about 400 quid what do you think
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: tweed on 19 November 2013, 17:13
Will still need s3 box.
And just need 1.8 mounts
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 19 November 2013, 17:18
ok cheers mate what about the 2.0t out of the new s3 my mate has this car and it's quick 265 standard would this go in my golf as these are going for about the same as bam engines
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 19 November 2013, 17:52
ok cheers mate what about the 2.0t out of the new s3 my mate has this car and it's quick 265 standard would this go in my golf as these are going for about the same as bam engines
most engines can be made to fit its just the cost then having the wiring done to get it running  :smiley: a think the s3 engine was mentioned as it already has a k04 the agu doesnt
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: Seanl on 19 November 2013, 18:27
Why not supercharge instead of Turbo? Slightly harder to find, but for a good used setup it'll cost you far less than a full 20vt setup, and you'll have better gains even on low boost with standard internals and with standard compression. You won't loose the noise either, and it'll be even better with the supercharger whine. Win win, win win...........  :wink:
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: tweed on 19 November 2013, 18:33
ok cheers mate what about the 2.0t out of the new s3 my mate has this car and it's quick 265 standard would this go in my golf as these are going for about the same as bam engines

You can but its a complete ball ache and will cost a fortune in parts. You may as well get a 2.0t donor car. So if you saying turbo will cost too much then so will the 2.0t.

Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 19 November 2013, 18:51
couple of ppl from here thinking of doing this now  :cool:
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 19 November 2013, 19:10
ok cheers mate what about the 2.0t out of the new s3 my mate has this car and it's quick 265 standard would this go in my golf as these are going for about the same as bam engines

You can but its a complete ball ache and will cost a fortune in parts. You may as well get a 2.0t donor car. So if you saying turbo will cost too much then so will the 2.0t.


yes I see what your saying I think it's going to have to be a 1.8t conversion as I don't have deep pockets and can get all the parts needed for about a grand
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 19 November 2013, 19:11
couple of ppl from here thinking of doing this now  :cool:

great minds think a like lol
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 19 November 2013, 19:13
Why not supercharge instead of Turbo? Slightly harder to find, but for a good used setup it'll cost you far less than a full 20vt setup, and you'll have better gains even on low boost with standard internals and with standard compression. You won't loose the noise either, and it'll be even better with the supercharger whine. Win win, win win...........  :wink:
superchargers are cool but finding a second hand set up is like find Moses DVD collection lol
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 19 November 2013, 19:21
ok cheers mate what about the 2.0t out of the new s3 my mate has this car and it's quick 265 standard would this go in my golf as these are going for about the same as bam engines

You can but its a complete ball ache and will cost a fortune in parts. You may as well get a 2.0t donor car. So if you saying turbo will cost too much then so will the 2.0t.


yes I see what your saying I think it's going to have to be a 1.8t conversion as I don't have deep pockets and can get all the parts needed for about a grand
you will need more than a grand if your going for the k04 on an agu engine  :smiley:
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 19 November 2013, 19:29
I have seen a few bam engine's with all the running gear for between 1000-1500 there is a few on ebay now and agu's can be had for 250-800 for everything
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 19 November 2013, 19:33
I have seen a few bam engine's with all the running gear for between 1000-1500 there is a few on ebay now and agu's can be had for 250-800 for everything
if you go agu you need the k04 the manifold and bigger downpipe  :smiley:
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: Wayne on 19 November 2013, 21:49
1.8t with more power would get my vote.
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: DubFan on 22 November 2013, 15:31
Here's one project that's already done it - 4motion Golf with S3 engine and drivetrain:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=148220.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=148220.0)

Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 22 November 2013, 15:46
Here's one project that's already done it - 4motion Golf with S3 engine and drivetrain:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=148220.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=148220.0)
here is another 1  :wink:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=204540.0
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: RichardBaronGolf on 22 November 2013, 16:12
If money doesn't matter don't only charged dubs do supercharger kits for these engines?
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: golfyste on 22 November 2013, 19:09
I would be different and try do the 2.7t conversion.
Good power as standard and if you really wanted to you can get the power pretty high!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 22 November 2013, 20:14
I would be different and try do the 2.7t conversion.
Good power as standard and if you really wanted to you can get the power pretty high!  :laugh:
would that engine not make it nose heavy as the 2.7v6 must be a heavy lump  :undecided:
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: golfyste on 22 November 2013, 20:21
....mount it in the middle  :grin:
In seriousness though You would probably just have to put harder springs on the front.
It's not gonna be much different the a r32 3.2l vr6
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 22 November 2013, 20:31
....mount it in the middle  :grin:
In seriousness though You would probably just have to put harder springs on the front.
It's not gonna be much different the a r32 3.2l vr6
some1 has already done the engine mid mount  :laugh: and i see your point about the weight and the s4 has twin turbos
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: golfyste on 22 November 2013, 23:42
Hmmm stick 2 k04's on and your away!  :grin:
Title: Re: Audi s4 2.7 tt engine or a 1.8t in a v6 4motion
Post by: barrym381 on 23 November 2013, 00:01
Hmmm stick 2 k04's on and your away!  :grin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7zd6g4t7Q