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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: NBirkitt on 18 November 2013, 19:50
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Full 8-page road test of Mk 7 GTI ( with Performance pack ) in latest ( December 2013 ) issue of Volkswagen Driver magazine :smiley:
See www.volkswagendrivermag.co.uk
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It's a very interesting read Neil, especially the comments about the 19" wheels.
If you were spending your own money, would you say the PP is worth the near £1000 for use solely on the road?
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It's a very interesting read Neil, especially the comments about the 19" wheels.
If you were spending your own money, would you say the PP is worth the near £1000 for use solely on the road?
What did they say about the alloys? :rolleyes: I'd liked the look of them so ordered them along with PP :cool:
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Can you not buy the dec issue online yet?
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And it's a Silver MK7 GTi they test… You don't get many of them. Waiting for this issue to become available on App Store then will enjoy the read. Thanks for sharing the link.
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Can you not buy the dec issue online yet?
My subscription came on Saturday but I don't think it's in the shops until Wednesday. Maybe the online version is out then too.
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Can you not buy the dec issue online yet?
My subscription came on Saturday but I don't think it's in the shops until Wednesday. Maybe the online version is out then too.
You can buy a hard copy online now (for postage) but the electronic version is not yet available for download. Availability of the downloadable versions lag way behind, which is annoying.
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Bet they prefer it without the 19's on!?
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without 19" wheels and with DCC.
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Thought so! 19's will ruin the ride and handling.
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Thought so! 19's will ruin the ride and handling.
actually I don't think it will ruin the ride too much especially with DCC.
Plus the are 8" wide tires as apposed to 7.5", this in itself yields more grip and traction :)
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It's a very interesting read Neil, especially the comments about the 19" wheels. If you were spending your own money, would you say the PP is worth the near £1000 for use solely on the road?
Purely for road use, for the average driver... then yes you'd be better off spending the money on DCC adaptive suspension option, but any enthusiastic fast-road driver / occasional track dayer will kick themselves later if they don't go for Performance pack to benefit from the special diff-lock. The extra power and bigger brakes are neither here nor there because you could always re-map ECU / upgrade brakes later if you need to, but I can't see that diff-lock being an easy retro-fit... and it really does greatly improve traction and handling on hard cornering etc. almost to 4WD standards
No further comments about 19-inch wheels/tyres – if someone thinks they look good then I won't argue with that, but that same money buys PP which genuinely improves handling/braking, and 18s won't cost as much every time tyres need replacing...
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(http://www.vwvortex.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/volkswagen-vaq-differential.jpg)
(http://www.fourtitude.com/news/uploads/Features/vaq2.gif)
(http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/25303/VWMQB_platform_04-L.jpg)
:laugh: :cool:
I would say this is a way better system and that its a shame the Golf R didnt get VAQ with Haldex, XDS+ kills the brake pads / discs and heats them up quicker during sports style driving.
The Golf R will probably understeer just like all the previous generation Haldex systems :sad:
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[/quote] You can buy a hard copy online now (for postage) but the electronic version is not yet available for download. Availability of the downloadable versions lag way behind, which is annoying. [/quote]
Sorry about that, but the publisher's policy is to hold off on online sales until the printed copies have a chance to sell, otherwise too many would switch to buy online and both we and the printers would be out of business overnight... If you order a printed copy first-class before 3 pm today you should get it in post tomorrow :-) Online sales commence a week after official on-sale date ( ie 27.11 )
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Or just buy a subscription. It's by far the best VW magazine for grown ups and you'll get it quite a few days before it gets to the shops.
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I do have an annual subscription but it's for the downloadable version. I may switch this to the paper copy though as I prefer to have a physical thing to read and wouldn't have to wait.
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Thought so! 19's will ruin the ride and handling.
Doesn't ruin my ride nor my handling :evil:
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Ruin was the wrong word! :smiley:
but the car will definitely perform better on 18's.
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Ruin was the wrong word! :smiley:
but the car will definitely perform better on 18's.
I agree there may be a minimal performance gain, but IMO the better looking 19s outweigh this small loss (particularly as the chances of finding another GTI on the roads, with a clear road, to prove this is virtually impossible).
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It's a very interesting read Neil, especially the comments about the 19" wheels. If you were spending your own money, would you say the PP is worth the near £1000 for use solely on the road?
Purely for road use, for the average driver... then yes you'd be better off spending the money on DCC adaptive suspension option, but any enthusiastic fast-road driver / occasional track dayer will kick themselves later if they don't go for Performance pack to benefit from the special diff-lock. The extra power and bigger brakes are neither here nor there because you could always re-map ECU / upgrade brakes later if you need to, but I can't see that diff-lock being an easy retro-fit... and it really does greatly improve traction and handling on hard cornering etc. almost to 4WD standards
No further comments about 19-inch wheels/tyres – if someone thinks they look good then I won't argue with that, but that same money buys PP which genuinely improves handling/braking, and 18s won't cost as much every time tyres need replacing...
making me think should I have blown the budget and specced it. :huh:
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No way mate! The 19's are not exclusive to the GTI, also found on the GTD. At least you know its a gti first glance with the original wheels,plus your save a heap load of cash. Better off selling the gti wheels and buying after market wheels exclusive to you! Happy days
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(http://www.vwvortex.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/volkswagen-vaq-differential.jpg)
(http://www.fourtitude.com/news/uploads/Features/vaq2.gif)
(http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/25303/VWMQB_platform_04-L.jpg)
:laugh: :cool:
I would say this is a way better system and that its a shame the Golf R didnt get VAQ with Haldex, XDS+ kills the brake pads / discs and heats them up quicker during sports style driving.
The Golf R will probably understeer just like all the previous generation Haldex systems :sad:
Thats quite a difference from an extra 10ps and the trick diff.
The Golf R posted a lap time of 8:14. also pretty impressive.
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Just received some more tech info on the PP diff-lock system from Borg-Warner and hoping to run a more detailed tech feature in a future issue of Volkswagen Driver mag... ;-)
...as suspected though, it is not suitable for a straightforward retro-fit because the gearbox needs to have suitable mountings, unless you swap the 'box as well, of course.. so best you specify it at initial order, rather than regret it later...