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Title: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 18 November 2013, 13:41
Hello guys,

So my long-term average MPG is 26 over 800 miles. Is this normal? If others could post there's I'd be very interested as u hear if people getting 40 odd!?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 18 November 2013, 13:48
That seems very poor. My average, i think, is approximately 32-33mpg long terms after 2500 miles which i don't consider to be particularly good. What sort of journeys are you making and what driving mode are you mostly in?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 18 November 2013, 13:53
That's what I thought! It's drinking like a V6. My commute consists of mixed roads. Some town driving, some country lanes and a spot of traffic here and there but start/stop helps with that.

I'm usually driving in individual mode, with the suspension on comfort and everything else on sport but I've been using the DSG in manual mode with paddles so I can stop the car putting the engine under any excessive load in its first bunch of miles. I don't thrash the car at all. It's not had full throttle and on average I'm keeping the revs between 1800-3000rpm with an odd occasional poke to 4-5krpm (though very rare).
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 November 2013, 13:58
With the GTDers, I have noticed that those getting the best mpg (by quite a margin) are those with DSG, despite the official figures suggesting they should be 10% thirstier than the manual. Any similar correlation for manual GTI vs DSG GTI? I do wonder whether the gear change prompt requires a bit of tweaking as I have seen in mine that sometimes the gear change prompt encourages you to stay in a higher gear pushing on with the torque rather than coming down a gear and not needing the torque, and looking like the lower gear would actually be the more economical choice when you view the instant mpg figures on the MFD.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: matchboy on 18 November 2013, 14:09
Work days:

Morning - town, dual carriageway (clear), motorway (mostly static - 50 mph), town = 29-30 average

Evening - town, motorway (60-70 mph), dual carriageway (clear), town = 33-35 average

I've done around about 2,500 miles and I nail it whenever the opportunity lends itself.  I also keep the car in Sport all the time.

So no where near the stated 47 combined  :rolleyes: but still not too shabby (as I have a lead foot on clear roads - obviously keeping within the speed limit  :lipsrsealed:)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Dully on 18 November 2013, 14:12
Hello guys,

So my long-term average MPG is 26 over 800 miles. Is this normal? If others could post there's I'd be very interested as u hear if people getting 40 odd!?

Mrs D's GTI has clocked up about 450 miles and has a 27 ish average mpg, most of these have been on the 7 mile rural commute to work which is quite steady. Her TT was doing about 36 on a non law breaking motorway run and similar on the work commute so I am not too fussed at the moment. I honestly did not expect the mpg to be anywhere near the claimed.

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Skinnee D on 18 November 2013, 15:18
With the GTDers, I have noticed that those getting the best mpg (by quite a margin) are those with DSG, despite the official figures suggesting they should be 10% thirstier than the manual. Any similar correlation for manual GTI vs DSG GTI? I do wonder whether the gear change prompt requires a bit of tweaking as I have seen in mine that sometimes the gear change prompt encourages you to stay in a higher gear pushing on with the torque rather than coming down a gear and not needing the torque, and looking like the lower gear would actually be the more economical choice when you view the instant mpg figures on the MFD.
Same as MH for me with the manual gear shift prompt - sometimes the revs drop lower than I would have expected (1200ish rpm) before the indicator says to shift down.  Not sure how intuitive this feature really is.

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 18 November 2013, 15:26
Hello guys,

So my long-term average MPG is 26 over 800 miles. Is this normal? If others could post there's I'd be very interested as u hear if people getting 40 odd!?

Mrs D's GTI has clocked up about 450 miles and has a 27 ish average mpg, most of these have been on the 7 mile rural commute to work which is quite steady. Her TT was doing about 36 on a non law breaking motorway run and similar on the work commute so I am not too fussed at the moment. I honestly did not expect the mpg to be anywhere near the claimed.

I didn't expect the GTI to be particularly economical either but that's besides the point. A little shy of the claimed figures is fine and understandable but half of the claimed figures is taking the biscuit a little don't you think?

Monkey hanger:

GTI DSG is definitely more thirsty than the manual in my experience for the GTI's. The DSG box always prompts me to change up a gear but to do so would usually labour the engine, it wants me in 4th at 27mph ect...
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Exonian on 18 November 2013, 16:44
27.5 over my 302 miles!

About the same as my mk6 I'd guess.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Geomets on 18 November 2013, 18:03
I do wonder whether the gear change prompt requires a bit of tweaking as I have seen in mine that sometimes the gear change prompt encourages you to stay in a higher gear pushing on with the torque rather than coming down a gear and not needing the torque, and looking like the lower gear would actually be the more economical choice when you view the instant mpg figures on the MFD.
In my brothers mk6 GTI (and in every car I drove) the only thing to make you change a gear is your ears and your ability to "feel" your car. The prompts of the MFD is something that does NOT make the car more economical, and that's something I found out after constant observation of consumption of the aforementioned  cars when I (and their drivers) drove the car in the same road, in the same direction, in the same day, once depending on the prompts and once depending on your...instinct. The prompts of VW cars always make the engine labour while when driving without obeying them, the car feels much happier and more frugal. We got an average 1.5 lt/100km better when we were NOT doing VW's thing.
Fact: my brother makes a journey of 450km twice a month. Average consumption is 7.3 lt/100km and his driving is REALLY fast and smooth. And that's with an mk6. (Same consumption before and after an APR ECU reprogramming.)
You should always stay IN the torque after upchanges and not the edges of it (meaning 1500-2000rpms).
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: cheets7 on 18 November 2013, 18:24
MPG figures advertised by most manufactures seem to be having a laugh! How do they get away with it?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Darlo on 18 November 2013, 18:51
I averaged about 27 out on my first tank (just shy of 300 miles).

Getting about 31 out of this tank so far.

I'm very disappointed about the mpg. Hoped it would rise with more miles but it looks like its always going to miles away from the advertised which is annoying as I was getting book mpg out of my jcw mini which I had owned from new.

I think its shocking from vw to advertise such unattainable figures. I was hoping for 300+ miles to a tank.... Here's hoping!!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: DougL on 18 November 2013, 18:57
Not quite so impossible perhaps? Speed limits were 40 and 50 mph dual carriageway

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5492/10930396304_19b294bbdb_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: corgi on 18 November 2013, 19:01
They are the only figures they can advertise...

They are the official figures from the EU tests which are well known to be unrepresentative...

It's not just VW, most manufacturers in the most competitive segments suffer the same... Is it a coincidence that fuel consumption is a major buy factor in this part of the market... If you look at  Honest  john's website he has a section that collects real fuel consumption figures from readers...

Frankly, a little research would have indicated that real-world fuel consumption would be 25%-30% worse than the quoted figures... If you set your expectation on that basis you ought not to be disappointed...

Not right... But it's the way it is...
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Carbon VW on 18 November 2013, 19:06
My average mpg is 36 after 2500miles. Last week I drove on an eight mile trip and without breaking any speed limits I averaged 43.2 mpg. Any yes I have a photo if anyone doesn't believe.  So it is possible to get it into the forties. And I put the shoe down at every opportunity usually so I am very happy with my long term mpg of mid to high thirties.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Carbon VW on 18 November 2013, 19:07
My average mpg is 36 after 2500miles. Last week I drove on an eight mile trip and without breaking any speed limits I averaged 43.2 mpg. Any yes I have a photo if anyone doesn't believe.  So it is possible to get it into the forties. And I put the shoe down at every opportunity usually so I am very happy with my long term mpg of mid to high thirties.

80 miles sorry not 8 !!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 November 2013, 20:53
I do wonder whether the gear change prompt requires a bit of tweaking as I have seen in mine that sometimes the gear change prompt encourages you to stay in a higher gear pushing on with the torque rather than coming down a gear and not needing the torque, and looking like the lower gear would actually be the more economical choice when you view the instant mpg figures on the MFD.
In my brothers mk6 GTI (and in every car I drove) the only thing to make you change a gear is your ears and your ability to "feel" your car. The prompts of the MFD is something that does NOT make the car more economical, and that's something I found out after constant observation of consumption of the aforementioned  cars when I (and their drivers) drove the car in the same road, in the same direction, in the same day, once depending on the prompts and once depending on your...instinct. The prompts of VW cars always make the engine labour while when driving without obeying them, the car feels much happier and more frugal. We got an average 1.5 lt/100km better when we were NOT doing VW's thing.
Fact: my brother makes a journey of 450km twice a month. Average consumption is 7.3 lt/100km and his driving is REALLY fast and smooth. And that's with an mk6. (Same consumption before and after an APR ECU reprogramming.)
You should always stay IN the torque after upchanges and not the edges of it (meaning 1500-2000rpms).

My GTD is much more comfortable accelerating from 2000 revs than the old 1800 of previous TDIs that I am used to - is this a thing seen with the GTIs as well? When i'm driving very conservatively the car's prompts and I aren't too far away. I really think the newest generation of engines wants to be driven a little harder/gears held onto a little longer.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mk7gti on 18 November 2013, 21:08
Steady driving at 70 for 20 minutes with a mixture of motorway and city driving:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23724295/Golf%20Forum/MK7%20Golf%20GTI/MPG.jpg)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Darlo on 18 November 2013, 21:29
Well I bimbled home from work in Eco mode, 6 miles from cold start... 34mpg. Suppose that's not to bad
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: gustavomcvieira on 18 November 2013, 21:38
In a 2000 km's trip between Luxembourg and Portugal I averaged 6,6 L/100 Km that equals 43mpg at an average speed of 100 km/h.

I've 7000 km's on the car with an average consumption of 40mpg.

This is the kind of car that can turn very expensive in a short journey trip ( the starts take a lot on the car), or on a hill climb road.

220 hp ; DSG gearbox...

I recomend in the DSG the use of manual mode.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 18 November 2013, 23:17
Am I right in assuming the guys getting 40's on MOG don't have the Performance Pack and the guys in the high 20's, low 30's do? I don't see how this extra bit of power would affect the MPG so much but interesting none the less.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 18 November 2013, 23:23
It won't affect mpg, it's way too early to start seeing consistent 40+ mpg levels on any GTi on here.
Once they have 10-20k miles on them you'll easily see 40mpg + on steady runs :)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: corgi on 19 November 2013, 08:36
It won't affect mpg, it's way too early to start seeing consistent 40+ mpg levels on any GTi on here.
Once they have 10-20k miles on them you'll easily see 40mpg + on steady runs :)

I agree it won't directly... but there may be a correlation between the PP and guys with lead boots that is causing it...  :evil:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 19 November 2013, 08:48
I believe the advertised MPG figures ARE attainable, i think that it will just take some time for the engine to settle in nicely and for us lot to learn how to drive them properly (for good MPG).

Here is a recent run from Preston to Manchester, i admit i was trying to get the best possible MPG whilst driving in eco mode...

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps91eaa6ec.jpg) (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/thefpvadventures/media/null_zps91eaa6ec.jpg.html)

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 19 November 2013, 09:01
I agree, just waiting until you have more miles on the car before worrying about poor mpg figures.
My local Volkswagen got 47mpg to Bradford and back (no aircon) and that was on a demo car with sub 4000 miles.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 19 November 2013, 09:09
I agree, just waiting until you have more miles on the car before worrying about poor mpg figures.
My local Volkswagen got 47mpg to Bradford and back (no aircon) and that was on a demo car with sub 4000 miles.

If big (20%) mpg gains are seen with the miles winding on then the MK7s must be the tightest cars ever built. The mpg on my Scirocco didn’t improve more than 5% over the 23k miles that I had it.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 19 November 2013, 10:01
Right.... let me get my paws on my GTi next month and I will do some good mpg testing  :grin:
I do 90 miles a day which involves motorway and mixed urban driving, so I will doing some high mileage quickly....  :cool:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mike S on 19 November 2013, 13:10
I ticked over 4,000 miles on my way into work today. Long term MPG is 33mpg. When I bought it I was hoping for a bit more but never expected more than about 38mpg. The official figs are pure b*ll*cks in normal driving conditions. But its a great car and I didn't buy in with economy in mind !  :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Thornster on 19 November 2013, 14:13
I've just gone over 1,000 miles.

My (irregular) commute is 95 odd miles, mostly Motorway with some Urban & A Roads at either end.

The last two journeys along the same route returned 41mpg (Friday evening - 2hr15mins in heavy traffic) and 35mpg (Sunday evening - 1hr35mins in very light traffic).

Both journeys in Normal mode, mostly in Drive, some in Manual  :smiley:

Based on the above I'd say 45mpg is possible once the car is run in (10,000 plus), at steady speed on a reasonable run.

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: DougL on 19 November 2013, 18:25
Don't forget that Volkwagen's MFI tends to be 10% optimistic...  :wink:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Moro on 19 November 2013, 19:31
Currently sitting at 34.8 after 660 miles - according to the car.

Interestingly, this seems to be a much more accurate representation than I have had on previous VAG products, which have always recorded an 8% - 10% optimistic number compared to my fuel calculations.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GolfTi on 19 November 2013, 20:13
You could have something here.

My mpg after 7k is 36mpg, only slighty better than the mk6 when sold.

However the tank is 5 litres smaller and I seem to get more miles per tank than the mk6...
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: andygou on 19 November 2013, 23:00
Several interesting observations about fuel computer accuracy on here. Has anyone done definitive comparisons between the figure shown on the computer and actual brim-to-brim calculations over a reasonable period?

10% optimistic computer error like my present A3 can make some of the figures reported here look much more (or less!) acceptable!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 November 2013, 07:46
The MK7 MFD does seem more like 4 - 5% optimistic rather than 9 - 10% of previous VWs.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: andygou on 20 November 2013, 10:16
Thanks monkey hanger, wonder if VAG have given up on trying to pull the wool over people's eyes on fuel consumption.
I can see no reason why the computer shouldn't be pretty much accurate, given that they actually get their info from the engine management system rather than relying on a flow meter as of old.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GolfTi on 27 November 2013, 12:56
OK, just filled up.
Computer average since last fill = 35.3
Calculated using brim to brim = 36.15

Covered 389.7 miles and used 49.0 litres. So unless I'm calculating this incorrectly the car is actually showing a lower mpg than the actual....
7K + on the clock

My mk 6 was consistently showing 6-7% above actual.

Need a few more fill ups and will take the average but this seems to agree with my intial thought, smaller tank than the mk6 but more miles per tank.
btw The petrol tank must be larger than 50 litres as I put 49 litres in and it was still showing 25 miles range.

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Sootchucker on 27 November 2013, 13:14
Your calcs are spot on.

I noticed this as well with my GTD, typically it's only 0.5-1.5mpg optimistic from the brim to brim, and taking into account that even brim to brim has a deviation of inaccuracy (forecourt delivery accuracy, temperature, filling to exact same point each time etc), then it's much more accurate than my older Scirocco which was about 17% inaccurate (before I tweaked it in VCDS).
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 27 November 2013, 13:29
So what are your thoughts guy?
The cars don't have bad mpg after all? :)
I'm hoping for 40mpg+ on my commute to work, 45 miles.
75 % motorways and 25% 30/40mph zones.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: matchboy on 27 November 2013, 14:18
I think its boils down to the way you drive; if you're Miss Daisy you'll attain those figures after around 10k miles.  If you prefer a more exciting, heavier foot approach you won't!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Moro on 27 November 2013, 15:07
After 900 miles, the computer seems quite accurate. 36.4 on the computer, 36.1 by fuel bought. I'm assuming the odometer to be accurate...

This is much more accurate than on my previous cars. Best I've seen so far has been 40.2 on a 220 mile return trip doing the speed limit where possible (motorway, trunk road but little town) and generally driving sensibly - so I'm happy with this, as 40mpg may be regularly possible as car loosens up.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Geomets on 27 November 2013, 18:13
Reading the thread I was thinking about this: the mk7 GTI has dual injection. As I read it, it seems that in very low revs-idle and high revs-limiter and PI in between. If someone with the Knowledge verify that with the actual revs which the dual port system works, this could clarify the differences we see with our MPG in combination with our driving styles. Someone may drive with too low revs, so only the one set of injectors are working, and this may be bad (or good) for the consumption. And some thoughts with some of us who like the conspiracy theories: maybe (surely) VW silently accepted that carbon deposits on the intake valves are something that they should rectify. So they added an algorithm to the ECU (given the liberty with the twin port injection) with which when some parameters meet (low speed of intake air in conjunction to low torque output or with the knock sensors or...anything, you name it, for example) it ups the amount of injected fuel through the PI. So the MPG goes downways. Like a DPF system in Diesel engines, which when it goes into regeneration mode, the car becomes...dieseloholic.
On a more realistic note, I think twin port injection has something to do with the MPG. Or it just failed because it is a new technology for VW and this ruined MPG in some of us. A member of APR in an other site which I read in 2008 said that VW was working on the calibration of the twin port injection system at the time. BUT it were laboratory checking and not out in the real world. Only then they could have a real statistic sample of the reliability of the system. Simple it seems, but it's not, I'm certain on it.
Oh well, History will tell...
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ian.C on 27 November 2013, 18:25
As far as im aware the other major reason to having the port injection is to help prevent a serious problem with previous versions of the EA888, carbon deposits on the valves which is a problem with direct injection only systems as fuel is not passing the valves and washing the carbon deposits away.

The increase in injection efficiency is mostly due to manufactures not having to rely on one set of injectors trying to deal with low and high fuel demands as a given injector can only really be classed as optimal in a limited injection range.

This 8 injector engine has been in Audi's for some time I believe and various tuners are getting some great results.

Ian
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Geomets on 27 November 2013, 18:30
That's what I wrote, didn't know about the Audi though. And???
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Geomets on 27 November 2013, 18:32
Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Sorry for my English...
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ian.C on 27 November 2013, 18:37
Sorry my mistake....Im bad for not reading posts.....SORRY  :wink:

Ian
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Geomets on 27 November 2013, 18:42
No problem, I thought for a moment that I can't communicate with the fellow members and it felt really BAD. Sorry for my English by the way...
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 27 November 2013, 21:13
My average MPG after 1100 miles is 26.9 LOL!

Back to the dealers I go by the looks of it!

What are you guys doing getting 40MPG? Turning the engine off and pushing it the rest of the way?

I've tried putting it in Eco mode and labouring the engine by letting it out the car in 5th at 30 ect and feathering the pedal and still getting 33 at best?

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: pauliem on 27 November 2013, 22:59
As an experiment today, I drove in the most economical way I could possibly manage from Reading, Berkshire to Weybridge, Surrey.

Both the towns were extremely congested and the motorway was somewhat congested.  I could have got a bit higher than this if the urban sections were a bit clearer.

Distance:
(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/pauliem78/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/1cb8676b-b9c5-4886-92f4-4eea79a8108c_zps5e2b744d.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/pauliem78/media/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/1cb8676b-b9c5-4886-92f4-4eea79a8108c_zps5e2b744d.jpg.html)

Speed:
(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/pauliem78/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/eab3b3a2-233e-46eb-8ead-ddaa62403169_zps8308687b.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/pauliem78/media/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/eab3b3a2-233e-46eb-8ead-ddaa62403169_zps8308687b.jpg.html)

Time
(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/pauliem78/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/94ccf200-1a4d-4c54-a3f3-d30ca1caa9f5_zpse19c8336.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/pauliem78/media/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/94ccf200-1a4d-4c54-a3f3-d30ca1caa9f5_zpse19c8336.jpg.html)

Consumption
(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/pauliem78/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/d722afae-b8b7-44d7-9cee-d03366d9262b_zps2527877a.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/pauliem78/media/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/d722afae-b8b7-44d7-9cee-d03366d9262b_zps2527877a.jpg.html)

This was driving extremely carefully and for large bits of the journey I had the speed limiter on at 60mph.  I did have it up to 42mpg at one point in the journey.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 28 November 2013, 06:12
Manual or DSG Paul?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: DougL on 28 November 2013, 07:55
I did a 140 mile journey on Saturday, all on motorway and dual carriageway. My average speed was 67mph with bursts up to 90mph, the car was in sport mode and the mpg was 38.5. The car has done less than 1000 miles and is a manual non-pp.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: pauliem on 28 November 2013, 13:02
Manual or DSG Paul?

Manual with Performance Pack.  Drove this morning up to Tamworth - approx 190 miles.  Managed 41.5mpg.  The car was extremely heavily laden though, well over 100Kg in the back.  So could have probably got a touch more.

Turning of the ACC and using the speed limiter seems to be the key to getting the high figures.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 28 November 2013, 19:12
Manual or DSG Paul?

Manual with Performance Pack.  Drove this morning up to Tamworth - approx 190 miles.  Managed 41.5mpg.  The car was extremely heavily laden though, well over 100Kg in the back.  So could have probably got a touch more.

Turning of the ACC and using the speed limiter seems to be the key to getting the high figures.

I would agree with this statement. ACC seems to worsen MPG, especially when the road you are driving on is not perfectly flat.

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 28 November 2013, 19:45
I don't use ACC, I don't have auto climate control on, I have tried driving in Eco mode where it automatically puts the car in neutral and coasts when your foot is off the pedal. I've tried not exceeding 60mph, I've kept the car in auto mode on ECO where it's obsessed with labouring the engine all the time by driving in a gear that's far too high for the speed and I've never seen past 35MPG. Even when doing all this at the same time and having an horrendous driving experience feeling like I might aswell be in an Up! (no offence to Up owners, it's a cracking car).

The car is a thirsty monster that has drank it's way through over 4 full tanks of fuel over 1100 miles. I only commute 150 miles a week to work and back and I'm spending around 250 a month on fuelling the thing!

I'm not happy really. Corgi is getting more MPG out of his Porsche! Coming home tonight I managed a whopping 25 mpg, not even toeing it :/
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 November 2013, 20:21
MrSavage: forget eco, makes for an awful driving experience and you have to put your foot down harder to get anything out. Sport is my most economical mode (albeit in a GTD). My mpg seemed to shoot up 10% on the turn of 1870ish miles/3000km (so far, been benefitting for about 150 miles) - ECU built in long term running in function that happens in stages perhaps?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 28 November 2013, 20:32
MrSavage: forget eco, makes for an awful driving experience and you have to put your foot down harder to get anything out. Sport is my most economical mode (albeit in a GTD). My mpg seemed to shoot up 10% on the turn of 1870ish miles/3000km (so far, been benefitting for about 150 miles) - ECU built in long term running in function that happens in stages perhaps?

Yeah you're probably right to be honest. I'll give it a test and see how it is. Surely the car is run in well before 1870 miles though? I would have thought 1000 miles is overkill even. So you have everything set to sport in your GTD?

You're in a manual right?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: physio on 28 November 2013, 21:06
Just done a 120 m round trip into north wales mixture of dual carriage way A roads and country lanes  averaged 41.6 mpg  , used sport mode some of the time rest was normal mode
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 28 November 2013, 23:01
I drive mine in either normal or sport mode. I think Eco mode actually makes it worse as the throttle response is so numb.

I have just passed the 3500 mile mark. The engine feels looser, more powerful and better on fuel. The latter is most surprising considering the much colder weather conditions compared to September when i picked it up.

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 28 November 2013, 23:40
I drive mine in either normal or sport mode. I think Eco mode actually makes it worse as the throttle response is so numb.

I have just passed the 3500 mile mark. The engine feels looser, more powerful and better on fuel. The latter is most surprising considering the much colder weather conditions compared to September when i picked it up.

J

Are you driving DSG GTI7? That is very interesting to know. Crazy that the car is so long fully bedding in!

Physio that's very impressive. I think on a long, clear run I could possibly achieve somewhere close to those figures. The GTI seems to get better and better on economy the longer the drive is.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 28 November 2013, 23:45
No it's a manual Savage. Earlier in this thread i posted a picture of a run of over 48mpg. But this was really really trying hard and cruising at around 60 on the motorway just to find out what it could really do.

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 November 2013, 07:36
MrSavage: forget eco, makes for an awful driving experience and you have to put your foot down harder to get anything out. Sport is my most economical mode (albeit in a GTD). My mpg seemed to shoot up 10% on the turn of 1870ish miles/3000km (so far, been benefitting for about 150 miles) - ECU built in long term running in function that happens in stages perhaps?

Yeah you're probably right to be honest. I'll give it a test and see how it is. Surely the car is run in well before 1870 miles though? I would have thought 1000 miles is overkill even. So you have everything set to sport in your GTD?

You're in a manual right?

Manual GTD in Sport (Normal is thirstier!). I wonder if VW have been tinkering with running in programs for a while. My last car was a Scirocco 170TDI and it felt like a 140 until it hit 340 miles/500Km and it was like a switch had been flicked to give it 20% more power. Never had anything like that happen with the other TDIs. Over the last week my 42mpg GTD has become a 48mpg GTD (hoping it's not a blip with the unseasonably mild temperatures).

Like you I have left the ACC alone and haven't really used the aircon. Babying these engines do them no favours, not saying thrash a cold engine, but giving them a little bit of a workout early into the trip gets the car up to temp quicker. Definitely find that driving the GTD a bit harder has had no detrimental effect to my mpg.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 29 November 2013, 14:44
Well I tried leaving it in sport and using paddle shifters on manual and managed 31 on my commute today, not groundbreaking but 6mpg more than normal. The DSG box is useless at changing gears by itself. It makes the car gutless.

Typical acceleration in drive mode (with sport driver profile), it changes;

2nd at 10mph (fine)
3rd at 20mph (too early)
4th at 27mph (far too early)
5th at 35 mph (engine now has no power at all)
6th at 40mph (useless)

Every gear change labours the engine so much, is this changeable with a DSG software update because I feel really disappointed that I have to drive my DSG in manual all the time!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: pauliem on 29 November 2013, 18:33
Got these stats today:

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/pauliem78/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/11c5f59d-4249-45b8-b3a2-25d2ee36f055_zpsd4945191.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/pauliem78/media/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/11c5f59d-4249-45b8-b3a2-25d2ee36f055_zpsd4945191.jpg.html)

Pretty good really.  This was ECO Mode, Air-con off, making lots of use of the speed limiter.  Don't think I could get it much better than this to be honest.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 29 November 2013, 18:56
I can only dream of those figures. You must have been driving like miss daisy! What do you mean by making use of the speed limiter? Does the manual also Coast when you take your foot off the accelerator?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: pauliem on 29 November 2013, 19:35
I really wasn't driving that slowly to be honest.  Steady, definitely not urgently. The trick is to try and maintain a constant speed.  Acceleration is what causes the MPG to drop, not perpetual motion.

Speed Limiter:

Press the mode button on the ACC control and the display will change to "Speed Limiter"

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/pauliem78/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/415f36dc-a728-421e-9b12-0eb565627327_zpsbe2f9a80.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/pauliem78/media/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/415f36dc-a728-421e-9b12-0eb565627327_zpsbe2f9a80.jpg.html)

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/pauliem78/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/b506ae21-ebc0-4a4b-a81a-71bade3a7cbc_zps3416df1b.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/pauliem78/media/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/b506ae21-ebc0-4a4b-a81a-71bade3a7cbc_zps3416df1b.jpg.html)

The little plus and minus buttons either side of the ACC distance control push the speed limiter up or down in 5mph increments.

I does feel like it is coasting, and the MPG figures would certainly suggest that it is, but I don't see how it could possibly do that in a manual car.  So I guess it does not.

Using the limiter as opposed to the ACC is far more efficient.

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GolfTi on 29 November 2013, 19:54
I believe the advertised MPG figures ARE attainable, i think that it will just take some time for the engine to settle in nicely and for us lot to learn how to drive them properly (for good MPG).

Here is a recent run from Preston to Manchester, i admit i was trying to get the best possible MPG whilst driving in eco mode...

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps91eaa6ec.jpg) (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/thefpvadventures/media/null_zps91eaa6ec.jpg.html)

J

My best was 47mpg, wouldn't want to do that again, but yes, it is achievable.

Normal driving, the odd bit of fun here and there.... 36.1 mpg.
The mpg readings seem pretty accurate to me, not the 6 -10% exaggeration of the mk6.

The mk6 would be showing 39.6.......

(and 53.3 for GTI7me's pic)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 29 November 2013, 20:28
Paul, call me insane but the speed limiter simply stops your speed going over a set limit right? IE, setting it to 60 stops me going over 60. I'm struggling to understand how that improves MPG as you are of course well aware of what speed you're actually doing.

In regards to the coasting, you're right it can't do it in a manual I guess. Never thought of that. Strange then that the manual is on paper more economical than a DSG when it has this excellent fuel saving extra that manual doesn't?

How come your range shows so many miles? I'm sure mine shows 300 on a full tank. Isit cleverly based on your average MPG now?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GolfTi on 29 November 2013, 20:52
400 per tank is easy, normal driving.

11 x 36 is 396,so average for me.

I do get the odd 20mpg trip though, normally on a Sunday...

The ACC does reduce mpg as it applies the brakes sooner than you normally would and it can't use other signals such as brake lights and the indicator of a car that is about to pull in front of you. Brilliant system though.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: pauliem on 29 November 2013, 22:18
Paul, call me insane but the speed limiter simply stops your speed going over a set limit right? IE, setting it to 60 stops me going over 60. I'm struggling to understand how that improves MPG as you are of course well aware of what speed you're actually doing.

How come your range shows so many miles? I'm sure mine shows 300 on a full tank. Isit cleverly based on your average MPG now?

Limiting the speed means you can maintain a constant speed without little blips of acceleration that you inevitably do when you are on manual control. Try it out next time you take the car out. You will see the mpg shoot up as soon as you reach the limited speed.

The tank shows a long range based the the mpg. That figure was even having already driven about 150 miles.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 29 November 2013, 22:19
400 per tank is easy, normal driving.

11 x 36 is 396,so average for me.

I do get the odd 20mpg trip though, normally on a Sunday...

The ACC does reduce mpg as it applies the brakes sooner than you normally would and it can't use other signals such as brake lights and the indicator of a car that is about to pull in front of you. Brilliant system though.

400 miles out of a tank is not easy. I'm getting around 200 out a tank and have only seen over 35MPG once! It must be DSG that's shocking on the fuel then.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 29 November 2013, 22:22
Paul, call me insane but the speed limiter simply stops your speed going over a set limit right? IE, setting it to 60 stops me going over 60. I'm struggling to understand how that improves MPG as you are of course well aware of what speed you're actually doing.

How come your range shows so many miles? I'm sure mine shows 300 on a full tank. Isit cleverly based on your average MPG now?

Limiting the speed means you can maintain a constant speed without little blips of acceleration that you inevitably do when you are on manual control. Try it out next time you take the car out. You will see the mpg shoot up as soon as you reach the limited speed.

The tank shows a long range based the the mpg. That figure was even having already driven about 150 miles.

I'll give it a go on my next commute, thanks Paul. Haha, I'll take a photo of my range next time I fill up the tank. I think it shows 270 miles on a full tank!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI-7-Performance on 02 December 2013, 06:36
Only 150Kms on the clock and yesterday went on my first longer run of 80kms with a mix of autobahn (120kph limit) with ACC and twice a fairly queue of stop start traffic for 3kms each through towns. A total mix of driving including 3 or four short blast on the gas. In a DSG Gti PP in comfort mode this averages 8l per 100km - that's 35.3MPG.

I am not disappointed...  :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Croz13 on 02 December 2013, 21:03
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee109/croz_13/Golf%20GTI%20Mk7/IMG_9779.jpg)

This is what I got on a recent trip down to North Wales from central Scotland. Was set in Eco mode & ACC on at 70 most of the way. Think the car roughly had 1000 miles on the clock

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mullermn on 02 December 2013, 21:20
I've done 950 odd miles in the first week, some of it motorway runs (Bristol - Manchester) and some an A road trip to North Wales. I've had it at 40mpg during the Manchester run (3 adults in car, ACC on moderately busy motorway, comfort mode) and about 35-37 mpg on the North Wales trip, and that was 'having fun' (a lot of fun) in sports mode the whole way.

In contrast my very sensibly driven daily run to work (5 miles or so, fairly congested) on a cold engine is more like 30.

I agree with all the comments about the car's gear choice - I think it's always too high for the speed and I've generally seen better efficiency driving more aggressively in lower gears than I do when I follow the advice.

This is a PP manual GTI.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 02 December 2013, 23:04
Ragging the car makes it drink fuel like nothing I've ever seen. I went on a "fun" drive the other night and it drank over quarter of a tank in 60 miles, around 20 of that was driving normally too. Came out with an average of 25MPG.

My work commute driving like miss daisy in Eco mode I now consistently manage 37-38mpg and that's city driving. 30/40 roads with a very short drive on an A road, moderate traffic. So I have no doubt the claimed 44MPG is achievable on empty roads, constant speed and with gravity on your side.

It doesn't really feel like a GTI when you're trying to get reasonable MPG out of it though but what the heck. You don't need it to always feel mental.

Driving with a mix of sensible and spirited bursts I lose 10MPG down to 28-30.

I've seen it drop as low as 22mpg on Eco mode in heavy rush hour traffic.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 06 December 2013, 22:00
Have I recorded the lowest so far. Killer of a journey to work this morning  :cry:

(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/image-36.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/image-36.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 06 December 2013, 22:07
Picked up my GTi today, drove straight home in moderate traffic.... 30mpg.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 06 December 2013, 22:13
A neat little feature of the graphic displayed is that the car moves towards the petrol pump the closer it gets to needing filled up. It was moving bloody quickly towards it today  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Robbo on 06 December 2013, 22:17
Have I recorded the lowest so far. Killer of a journey to work this morning  :cry:

(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/image-36.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/image-36.jpg.html)

Blimey!  1 mile in 1hr 16........Ouch :cry: 

Is the computer giving you an average speed of 2 mph though?  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 06 December 2013, 22:21
Have I recorded the lowest so far. Killer of a journey to work this morning  :cry:

(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/image-36.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/image-36.jpg.html)

Blimey!  1 mile in 1hr 16........Ouch :cry: 

Is the computer giving you an average speed of 2 mph though?  :lipsrsealed:

I'm assuming it was just due to the figures being rounded
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mullermn on 06 December 2013, 22:53
My first 1000 miles at an average speed of 26mph came in at 32.1mpg.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Moro on 07 December 2013, 14:41
So far I have mainly used Comfort mode (DCC) which selects Normal (not Eco) for engine. Last fill up was 358.1 miles, trip said 40.0mpg but calculations revealed 39.1mpg, which continues to be surprisingly close to reality. So far I'm on 36.9mpg over 1200 miles, which I think is OK.

The only thing I noticed was that the gauge looked nearly 1/4, but the range was down to 65 miles - which seemed a much more accurate representation considering the amount of fuel I purchased, so I'm guessing the gauge drops quite quickly as it approaches empty.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 08 December 2013, 17:13
Just been out to Manchester and back, a nice drive out in Eco mode, taking it steady as still running in but easily getting 37mpg  :cool: with mixed driving and having 3 people in the car on the way back incl A/C on @ 21.
The car is performing pretty well in the mpg stakes given its not even run in.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: pauliem on 08 December 2013, 17:32
Have I recorded the lowest so far. Killer of a journey to work this morning  :cry:

(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/image-36.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/image-36.jpg.html)

Wow - walking slowly would have been significantly quicker!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 08 December 2013, 17:35
I've done worser mpg in my R32... sub 6mpg.  :shocked: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monsta on 08 December 2013, 19:14
Did a run across country back to my parents (55 miles roughly) mixing between Eco and Sport (for the fun bits like over taking) and got 38.5 MPG - very happy with that   :grin:

(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab308/justinwanstall/20131208_151541_zpsc8f90b05.jpg)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 09 December 2013, 18:12
This must be some kind of record

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps177304d3.jpg) (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/thefpvadventures/media/null_zps177304d3.jpg.html)

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 December 2013, 18:22
GTI7me: Were you doing a constant 55mph with an 80 mph tail wind? I have only beaten your mpg twice with my GTD in 2500 miles.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 09 December 2013, 18:25
GTI7me: Were you doing a constant 55mph with an 80 mph tail wind? I have only beaten your mpg twice with my GTD in 2500 miles.

Cruising between 55 and 65 on the motorway with feet like twinkle toes! I think cruise control makes the MPG worse.

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: JellyB on 09 December 2013, 18:25
My first 900 miles has been between 35 and 36mpg.

Will see if the eco mode makes any difference one a 400 mile round trip this week.

(I did try sport mode for a bit but I couldnt stand the artificial engine noise  :cry:)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 December 2013, 18:37
GTI7me: Were you doing a constant 55mph with an 80 mph tail wind? I have only beaten your mpg twice with my GTD in 2500 miles.

Cruising between 55 and 65 on the motorway with feet like twinkle toes! I think cruise control makes the MPG worse.

J

I don't use the cruise, but then again, i've not done more than 40 miles on a single trip before. It'll definitely affect mpg adversely. Anytime it wastes your momentum to brake, like when you go down a hill stretch will affect your mpg etc.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monsta on 09 December 2013, 20:16
My first 900 miles has been between 35 and 36mpg.

Will see if the eco mode makes any difference one a 400 mile round trip this week.

(I did try sport mode for a bit but I couldnt stand the artificial engine noise  :cry:)

I'm actually starting to love the sport noise, really eggs you on to put your foot down, plus if you drive it gracefully then you get a gentle growl  :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: JellyB on 09 December 2013, 21:13
I'm actually starting to love the sport noise, really eggs you on to put your foot down, plus if you drive it gracefully then you get a gentle growl  :smiley:

OK, I admit it, I was on the work phone via handsfree and they could hear it..  :grin:

But really I wish I could have the better engine response (in sport mode) without the sound coming through the windshield, from the exhaust yep, but not the windshield.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: JellyB on 11 December 2013, 21:45
Had a chance to have a decent run in eco mode now I have a few miles on the clock, cruised between 50 in roadworks to 70 on the motorway and dual carriageways. (Got just over half a tank left).

(http://www.foranangel.co.uk/files/20131211eco.jpg)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monsta on 12 December 2013, 09:48
Had a chance to have a decent run in eco mode now I have a few miles on the clock, cruised between 50 in roadworks to 70 on the motorway and dual carriageways. (Got just over half a tank left).



The holy grail, 40mpg!  So far I've only long termed 34...  some changes in driving style are needed I think!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 12 December 2013, 10:02
I think once your starting to pass 10/20k miles you'll start seeing better mpg figure.  :cool:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mullermn on 12 December 2013, 11:04
I did 150 miles up the M5/M6 the other day with an average speed of 54 mph (few 50/40mph roadworks but otherwise smooth traffic) in eco mode using ACC at 75mph and I got 42.4mpg.

I did the reverse journey last night and wound up at about 39.5 cruising at more like 80mph and the occasional burst for overtaking/for the fun of it.

Eco mode makes the throttle feel sluggish but doesn't actually seem to improve efficiency as far as I can tell, or atleast not enough to balance out the fact that sport is a lot more satisfying to drive.

My total mileage is about 1500 now.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monsta on 12 December 2013, 11:09

Eco mode makes the throttle feel sluggish but doesn't actually seem to improve efficiency as far as I can tell, or atleast not enough to balance out the fact that sport is a lot more satisfying to drive.

My total mileage is about 1500 now.

Yeah I would agree with that, I think Comfort has been my best mode for an MPG/Performance compromise so far. It's basically normal with nice suspension  :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 13 December 2013, 22:46
I have covered 351 miles in my GTi, total average since new is 33.1mpg 
Eco mode with mixed driving styles.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 13 December 2013, 22:50
I tend to sit in sport mode for most of my journeys as I love the exhaust note. Sitting at about 31mpg after 3k miles which ain't too bad considering I've got a heavy right foot  :grin:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 15 December 2013, 12:18

Eco mode makes the throttle feel sluggish but doesn't actually seem to improve efficiency as far as I can tell, or atleast not enough to balance out the fact that sport is a lot more satisfying to drive.

My total mileage is about 1500 now.

Yeah I would agree with that, I think Comfort has been my best mode for an MPG/Performance compromise so far. It's basically normal with nice suspension  :smiley:

You're probably right for Manual but DSG users have the car coasting in Eco as soon as you take your foot off the accelerator which makes your mpg fly up. Excellent feature.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monsta on 16 December 2013, 12:42
Set myself a new personal best today

(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab308/justinwanstall/20131216_120139_zpscax7694i.jpg)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 16 December 2013, 13:00
First drive to the office today, heavy traffic.

Time 1hr 26mins
Distance 41 miles
Average speed 29mph
Average mpg 37.5mpg

Car has just over 400 miles on the clock  :cool:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 16 December 2013, 13:07
First drive to the office today, heavy traffic.

Time 1hr 26mins
Distance 41 miles
Average speed 29mph
Average mpg 37.5mpg

Car has just over 400 miles on the clock  :cool:

I'm no where near that in heavy traffic. First time i put the car in eco mode this morning and travelling to work (approx 19 miles) with relatively light traffic this morning i still only managed 33mpg.

Are you sure you don't have a GTD?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 16 December 2013, 13:11
First drive to the office today, heavy traffic.

Time 1hr 26mins
Distance 41 miles
Average speed 29mph
Average mpg 37.5mpg

Car has just over 400 miles on the clock  :cool:

I'm no where near that in heavy traffic. First time i put the car in eco mode this morning and travelling to work (approx 19 miles) with relatively light traffic this morning i still only managed 33mpg.

Are you sure you don't have a GTD?
Nope, definately a GTi  :tongue:
I did a trip to Manchester and back 2 days after I bought it and it managed 38mpg.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 16 December 2013, 13:16
First drive to the office today, heavy traffic.

Time 1hr 26mins
Distance 41 miles
Average speed 29mph
Average mpg 37.5mpg

Car has just over 400 miles on the clock  :cool:

I'm no where near that in heavy traffic. First time i put the car in eco mode this morning and travelling to work (approx 19 miles) with relatively light traffic this morning i still only managed 33mpg.

Are you sure you don't have a GTD?
Nope, definately a GTi  :tongue:
I did a trip to Manchester and back 2 days after I bought it and it managed 38mpg.  :rolleyes:

The question then is are you driving it like a GTI?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: matchboy on 16 December 2013, 15:24
The question then is are you driving it like a GTI?

+1

I managed 29 today in heavy traffic.  No idea where others are getting these figures from unless they're not driving the car properly when the traffic clears!  :evil:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 16 December 2013, 15:54
You can't get those figures when driving a GTI like a GTI. I managed to get 41mpg driving like Bambi, coasting where I can. Speed limiter at 60 & lots of passer-bys giving you a confused look as to why you're driving a 230bhp, 350nm torque like an Up!

The "best" I've had driving it like a GTI is between 28-30mpg & I've had an average as low as 22mpg driving it like I stole it.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: rallypug on 16 December 2013, 16:27
You can't get those figures when driving a GTI like a GTI. I managed to get 41mpg driving like Bambi, coasting where I can. Speed limiter at 60 & lots of passer-bys giving you a confused look as to why you're driving a 230bhp, 350nm torque like an Up!

The "best" I've had driving it like a GTI is between 28-30mpg & I've had an average as low as 22mpg driving it like I stole it.

Totally agree Mr Savage... Ive just done round trip of 250 miles mostly free flowing motorway, and only got 33mpg .. If people are concerned with mpg on a GTi then they should have bought an Up! !!   :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI_Redpath on 16 December 2013, 20:47
most ive been able to get on the Avg. MPG readout (since refills) is 33mpg. it does improve with every refill. and thats driving "properly" and 700 milles on the clock. maybe a bit too "properly" managed to get a speeding ticket after 3 days of owning the thing. I am a moron...
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI_Redpath on 16 December 2013, 20:49
can a mod delete this post, accidental post
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Darlo on 16 December 2013, 21:17
You guys are getting impressive MPG figures!

First tank.... 27mpg
Second tank.... 28mpg
Third tank.... 31mpg

It has 910 miles on the clock now.

I only drive it in Sport mode and I think its terrible to drive in Eco mode. I did manage 44mpg on one longish run keeping it below 2k revs at all times but that's not why i bought a GTI.

Must admit i hoped for more, getting less than I was getting from my JCW Mini and the book figures for that are less than the GTI. Typical as well that i have found out im moving offices at work and my commute is more than doubling so I may have to learn to drive it with less enthusiasm  :evil:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 16 December 2013, 21:27
I know that you got to drive it like a GTi and mpg isn't the main factor but I bought it for its dual functionality, performance when needed (sport) and Eco for other time..... it's a perfect combination.
I like to do Eco runs to work and back but sometimes fancy a blast.
The GTi has such a broad range of abilities :)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Darlo on 16 December 2013, 21:30
Maybe i need to give it a few days in Eco mode to see if its better than i remember!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 16 December 2013, 21:43
Maybe i need to give it a few days in Eco mode to see if its better than i remember!

Eco mode is superb on a DSG atleast.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Darlo on 16 December 2013, 22:33
Maybe i need to give it a few days in Eco mode to see if its better than i remember!

Eco mode is superb on a DSG atleast.

Good to hear, will see if my mind is changed tomorrow with a manual box.

Has anyone on here done back to back or similar journeys to see how much difference Eco mode makes on your average journey when compared to sport. Its probably on this thread somewhere but too many pages to go through  :laugh:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 17 December 2013, 06:42
Maybe i need to give it a few days in Eco mode to see if its better than i remember!

Eco mode is superb on a DSG atleast.

Good to hear, will see if my mind is changed tomorrow with a manual box.

Has anyone on here done back to back or similar journeys to see how much difference Eco mode makes on your average journey when compared to sport. Its probably on this thread somewhere but too many pages to go through  :laugh:

I tried a very Eco trip to work this morning and managed 39.5 in Eco all the way. Same trip in Sport mode & changing with the paddles lands me at 28-30. But then again your driving style alters drastically depending on what mode you're in so an unfair comparison I guess. Being a DSG box it changes up way earlier than I would myself in Eco and likes to labour the engine & coast everywhere else. You can tell it's trying to squeeze every MPG out the car it possibly can. My long term average is still at 27.5 but rising very slowly.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Darlo on 17 December 2013, 06:51
Interesting to hear, I beginning to wonder if its more suited to the dsg box as I drive the same journey to work which I got 33mpg in sport mode yesterday... This morning in Eco mode I got 31mpg? It was quite cold this morning so maybe that made the difference. I will do a few more runs and see how I get on
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 17 December 2013, 08:51
I tried the trip to work again this morning in Eco mode and the very best i could achieve was a miserable 35mpg driving like an old git. I'm sure at one stage i was overtaken by a granny on a bike.  :grin:.

The journey was like something out of Apollo 13, every last instrument was turned off to conserve energy and even the windows started to mist up. It was bloody freezing in the car.

The worst thing by far was driving so conservatively when all you wanted to do was boot it  :evil:. I'm giving up on looking at my mpg stats from now on  :grin:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 17 December 2013, 10:54
First drive to the office today, heavy traffic.

Time 1hr 26mins
Distance 41 miles
Average speed 29mph
Average mpg 37.5mpg

Car has just over 400 miles on the clock  :cool:
Same trip to the office today but with no traffic.
40.9mpg  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 18 December 2013, 16:55
First drive to the office today, heavy traffic.

Time 1hr 26mins
Distance 41 miles
Average speed 29mph
Average mpg 37.5mpg

Car has just over 400 miles on the clock  :cool:
Same trip to the office today but with no traffic.
40.9mpg  :rolleyes:
Todays trip, same as yesterday, car now has just over 610 miles on the clock.
43mpg.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: geob on 20 December 2013, 19:19
had a short trip out today mostly town driving
showing 26mpg about same as my mk5 gti.
this would always increase in warmer weather,
especially on long runs when i would see 40mpg
i would expect my mk7 to get better with more
miles on clock.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 23 December 2013, 07:11
A clear run to work this morning with the DSG box (GTI) and the car managed 35MPG in sport mode the entire time but in Drive (Automatic) on the gearbox. Normal driving. To compare the same trip in Eco mode usually lands me at 37-39MPG. So the Eco setting is good for DSG , mostly because of the auto-coasting feature.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: FNJ-GTI on 23 December 2013, 11:19
A clear run to work this morning with the DSG box (GTI)

Me too, strange driving to work and not stop/starting all the way here. I got to work an hour early! managed 33.5 mpg (DSG GTI in normal)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 23 December 2013, 11:56
I am getting between 36.1 to 39.9mpg on long-term stats
Weekly commute to work I am getting 40mpg+  :smiley:
Car has just passed 1100miles  :laugh:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Simon C on 26 December 2013, 22:12
Hi Guys

Only had my car a few days now and been keeping a close eye on MPG v distance v speed. This post includes results and photos from a 100 mile trip the other day:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=262995.0

Today I had a trip taxying my mother from Keighley, West Yorkshire to Blackpool. Journey results below:

(http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p743/scyhanko/Mileage1_zpse4173832.jpg) (http://s1349.photobucket.com/user/scyhanko/media/Mileage1_zpse4173832.jpg.html)

On the outward journey we took a slower route that was more urban. I was being careful on the full outing.

On the return journey we took a longer but quicker journey where I was on motorway for the best part of the journey. I had the speed limiter set to 70 MPH and the car was ticking over for the full outing.

(http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/p743/scyhanko/Mileage2_zps63b2868a.jpg) (http://s1349.photobucket.com/user/scyhanko/media/Mileage2_zps63b2868a.jpg.html)

I was being very careful on both journeys with the car in eco mode at all times. I think / hope the car would have been more economical, however I put this level of performance down to the fact that I am still running on my first full tank of fuel. When bedded in I would hope the car would return nearer to 40 MPG. Does that sound reasonable?

Tomorrow I am heading back up to the north-east and refilling on the way. I think Ill adopt a more 'normal' drving approach and am anticipating closer to 30 MPG.

Happy eating folks.

Si
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Raymondo on 14 January 2014, 08:56
Car has 2,200 on the clock.  DSG non performance pack using 95RON.  Just about to try 98RON for a few tanks.

Commute consists of 90% motorway (22 miles door to door), some stop starting after I come off the motorway and I am averaging 35.5-40.5 mpg in eco mode.  To get the latter, I am really having to be gentle and the former is normal driving.  Full tank lasted about 380 miles.

Bit dissapointed with those mpg figures.  I know we don't buy petrol cars for their ever lasting fuel tank, but no one seems to be getting close to actual figures from what I've read on many posts:

Urban - 34.9
Combined - 44.1
Extra Urban - 53.3

Those figures say to me that in good driving conditions on a long motorway run, we should be mid to high 40's.  Before my GTI I had a CC 170 TDI DSG (non blue motion) and combined on that was about 47 and I'd easily get that and more with spritied driving.  The car before that was a MK5 Golf GTI (manual) and I believe the combined figure was about 32 mpg which was easily achievable on a decent motorway run.

I know a lot of posters state that figures quoted by VW are based on certain driving conditions and therefore "too attractive", but how come I have got close to/as good as on all my previous cars, but not this one?

But it doesn't detract from what a great car it is and I knew that coming from a 170TDI to a GTI would be with a bang.  I just wish VW had been a tad more realistic with figures.  Though I'm hoping over the next few thousand miles and in good weather the mpg starts to show close to its stated true colours.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mk1Macca on 14 January 2014, 09:20
The new figures are listed as for 'comparative purposes'. As I understand it, something has changed in the testing process which is making numbers look a lot better than they ever will be in real life.

They have to be high so that the competitors don't look wildly better, even though they are also meaningless numbers.

Shame really.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: FNJ-GTI on 14 January 2014, 09:31
My Gti Dsg has just clicked over 1000 miles and im getting an average mpg of 32. My commute to work is stop / start all the way for 18 miles and I only get about 24, but if its clear on the way home this goes up to 40. Overall im ok with the consumption, didn't expect great fuel economy but what im getting is ok considering the route I have to travel to work.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mullermn on 14 January 2014, 09:52
My work route is 7 miles in heavy traffic (took an hour the other day! Bristol traffic..) and I have had mpg figures at the 11/12 mpg mark before, and that's using the stop start once it's available.

On the other hand 3 hours of aggressive driving in south wales at the weekend left me at 30ish.. The car likes being driven hard a lot more than sitting in traffic.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI_for_her! on 17 January 2014, 23:44
For those interested in mpg we picked car up in Gillingham yesterday with 10 miles on odometer. Drove home to Forfar and its now showing 541 miles.
Average mpg = 40.8

Trip was heavy traffic on M25 and M1 probably about 40-50mph and a few slow moving queues. Busy up M6 and then light traffic past Manchester. It included me dropping gears, slowing and accelerating up to 4000rpm to try and vary engine speed as much as possible and 5 detours off motorway for rest break / food and to drive a bit on A roads to break it up.
More than happy with the above figure.

For comparison my Mk 5 Gti from years gone by averaged about 32-33 mpg on my daily commute from Forfar to Dundee. Approx 15 miles with 10 being dual carriageway and the rest town driving.
My current Audi A4 Avant Quattro 177 diesel only does about 42-43 for the same trip and the wife's previous A3 1.8Tfsi was 36 so all in all the new Gti is doing well enough so far.
Sorry for blethering on but to summarise if we end up averaging about 35/36 overall I'd have no complaints. I didn't buy it for the economy and her right foot would appear to be heavier than mine!!!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 18 January 2014, 08:54
I have now covered over 2300 miles and for my commute to and from work I am getting 40mpg +
There is however a stretch of roadworks at 50mph which is helping boost mpg.
I'm still happy with it and I'm sure once it has had it's first oil change mpg will improve slightly.
I drive 41 miles to work and stick to the speed limits. :)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 18 January 2014, 14:56
I have now covered over 2300 miles and for my commute to and from work I am getting 40mpg +
There is however a stretch of roadworks at 50mph which is helping boost mpg.
I'm still happy with it and I'm sure once it has had it's first oil change mpg will improve slightly.
I drive 41 miles to work and stick to the speed limits. :)

We all stick to the speed limits on here  :whistle: :grin:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: TheMoggy on 18 January 2014, 15:38
3950 miles and I'm getting 26.5mpg - it's a right bummer because I get petrol allowance based on what it says in the book - 44mpg THATS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 18 January 2014, 18:20
3950 miles and I'm getting 26.5mpg - it's a right bummer because I get petrol allowance based on what it says in the book - 44mpg THATS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!!
   blimey bummer indeed! but bet you're enjoying it though?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: V5Ade on 18 January 2014, 19:28
I'm interested on what I'm going to get. Currently I'm using a MINI Cooper D for my daily driver and averaging 44mpg, the official figure is 76mpg. Looking at these figures I'll be lucky to get 20mpg out of the GTI when I get it :D
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 18 January 2014, 21:28
I'm interested on what I'm going to get. Currently I'm using a MINI Cooper D for my daily driver and averaging 44mpg, the official figure is 76mpg. Looking at these figures I'll be lucky to get 20mpg out of the GTI when I get it :D

lol, im going from a Prius thats done 40k over the 3 year lease and averaged 66mpg (official fig 72) so in for a shock im sure!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Geomets on 19 January 2014, 09:56
I went for a spirited drive yesterday night (less cars on the road/better temperature for a turbo equipped car). 30% motorway, 20% fast B-road with sweeping corners and 50% B-road (could be called...C-road in the UK). Average speed 95km/h and consumption 7.4lt/100km (38.2mpg). Very impressed. Long term (not few cold-starts) is 32.9mpg and current mileage is 1170miles. It's loosening up nicely!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: stuart.cameron on 19 January 2014, 15:09
For those interested in mpg we picked car up in Gillingham yesterday with 10 miles on odometer. Drove home to Forfar and its now showing 541 miles.
Average mpg = 40.8

Trip was heavy traffic on M25 and M1 probably about 40-50mph and a few slow moving queues. Busy up M6 and then light traffic past Manchester. It included me dropping gears, slowing and accelerating up to 4000rpm to try and vary engine speed as much as possible and 5 detours off motorway for rest break / food and to drive a bit on A roads to break it up.
More than happy with the above figure.

For comparison my Mk 5 Gti from years gone by averaged about 32-33 mpg on my daily commute from Forfar to Dundee. Approx 15 miles with 10 being dual carriageway and the rest town driving.
My current Audi A4 Avant Quattro 177 diesel only does about 42-43 for the same trip and the wife's previous A3 1.8Tfsi was 36 so all in all the new Gti is doing well enough so far.
Sorry for blethering on but to summarise if we end up averaging about 35/36 overall I'd have no complaints. I didn't buy it for the economy and her right foot would appear to be heavier than mine!!!

Forfar?! Why haven't I seen it driving about yet...
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 19 January 2014, 17:29
I went for a spirited drive yesterday night (less cars on the road/better temperature for a turbo equipped car). 30% motorway, 20% fast B-road with sweeping corners and 50% B-road (could be called...C-road in the UK). Average speed 95km/h and consumption 7.4lt/100km (38.2mpg). Very impressed. Long term (not few cold-starts) is 32.9mpg and current mileage is 1170miles. It's loosening up nicely!

In a GTD I assume? I'm sorry but if you got 38MPG in a GTI then it couldn't have been a "spirited drive" :P My spirited drives result in 22MPG ;)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI_for_her! on 19 January 2014, 19:39
Forfar?! Why haven't I seen it driving about yet...

You've not seen it yet as we got home at 2.30 Fri morning and I've spent the last 2 days giving it the full treatment in the garage!! I'm knackered but it does look sh!t-hot.
Can't even get any decent pictures as its never stopped raining.
The wife starts driving it to her work tomorrow so it'll probably never be this clean again!!!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 21 January 2014, 21:45
Hello guys,

So my long-term average MPG is 26 over 800 miles. Is this normal? If others could post there's I'd be very interested as u hear if people getting 40 odd!?

This was my journey on A roads and then 5ish city miles this morning in my company Prius, when the Golf gti finally lands next week it might be in for a shock!!!   :laugh:

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag315/sunnymeadenursery/car/6EBCFCDE-3B83-470E-8307-F1DE180013E8_zpsz2e081ep.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/sunnymeadenursery/media/car/6EBCFCDE-3B83-470E-8307-F1DE180013E8_zpsz2e081ep.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 21 January 2014, 21:49
Amazing mpg but my god the Prius is one fugly car  :sick: :grin:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 21 January 2014, 21:50
73mpg, is that all  :whistle: I was getting 75mpg out of my Polo  :laugh:
Currently getting over 40mpg out of my GTi
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 21 January 2014, 21:55
73mpg, is that all  :whistle: I was getting 75mpg out of my Polo  :laugh:
Currently getting over 40mpg out of my GTi

Are you driving in eco mode everywhere? You must have the lightest right foot known to man to be able to achieve over 40mpg  :grin:

I think I need photographic evidence of the unbelievable mpg your achieving  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 21 January 2014, 21:58
73mpg, is that all  :whistle: I was getting 75mpg out of my Polo  :laugh:
Currently getting over 40mpg out of my GTi

good to hear im indenting too also be (hopefully) well over 40 

good numbers in your polo that, my polo Tsi 105 does about 53, neither of course are a big heavy auto family car, cant knock the Prius save its 'plastic feel' effortless trouble free 40k miles.

cant wait to get my mits on the Gti though 1 week 1 day to go, don't know how im going to sleep next week!

Adrian
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Gtiless on 21 January 2014, 22:18
I dont know how you get 40 out of a gti,I dont get 30.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 21 January 2014, 22:34
73mpg, is that all  :whistle: I was getting 75mpg out of my Polo  :laugh:
Currently getting over 40mpg out of my GTi

Are you driving in eco mode everywhere? You must have the lightest right foot known to man to be able to achieve over 40mpg  :grin:

I think I need photographic evidence of the unbelievable mpg your achieving  :smiley: :smiley:
I mainly stick to Eco mode for my daily work commuting but nothing silly like driving 50mph everywhere in a 70mph zone....

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5525/12075845373_7198634e31.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rizvanhussain/12075845373/)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2837/12076200506_c4e357cb3f.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rizvanhussain/12076200506/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7358/12075874383_77c3f8177c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rizvanhussain/12075874383/)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7435/12075590745_99f23d8f84.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rizvanhussain/12075590745/)

 :laugh: :grin: :cool:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 21 January 2014, 22:58
Those are some great stats. The best ive achieved in Eco mode has been approx 37mpg, I can't seem to get anywhere near the magic 40mpg. However I also can't bring myself to drive in Eco mode very often because I like sport too much  :grin:.

What your long term mpg sitting at?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 21 January 2014, 23:14
Those are some great stats. The best ive achieved in Eco mode has been approx 37mpg, I can't seem to get anywhere near the magic 40mpg. However I also can't bring myself to drive in Eco mode very often because I like sport too much  :grin:.

What your long term mpg sitting at?
My long term mpg is between 36-37mpg at the moment with around 2300 miles on the clock  :smiley: I did see 45mpg today on the motorway but I had to come off the junction to tackle urban roads for the final leg of my commute.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 22 January 2014, 07:33
My record so far  :grin:

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps177304d3.jpg) (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/thefpvadventures/media/null_zps177304d3.jpg.html)

Record prior to that

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps91eaa6ec.jpg) (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/thefpvadventures/media/null_zps91eaa6ec.jpg.html)

But i didn't buy a GTI for saving fuel so my long term is 33mpg.

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 22 January 2014, 12:39
My cars stats reset themselves at around 2400 miles. So I lost all my long term data. :( Anyone else had that happen?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 January 2014, 13:17
Yes, at about 2600 mile sof rme - I think it resets every 100 hours of operation.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 22 January 2014, 19:32
My record so far  :grin:

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps177304d3.jpg) (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/thefpvadventures/media/null_zps177304d3.jpg.html)

Record prior to that

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps91eaa6ec.jpg) (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/thefpvadventures/media/null_zps91eaa6ec.jpg.html)

But i didn't buy a GTI for saving fuel so my long term is 33mpg.

J

brilliant figs the best ive seen that given me something to aim at just for fun as your point is bob on, im having it to work work it!  after 3 years of driving like a nun and saving a fortune on benefit in kind tax and fuel with the Prius so i can now afford a Gti  :grin:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monsta on 22 January 2014, 20:11
My record so far  :grin:

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps177304d3.jpg) (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/thefpvadventures/media/null_zps177304d3.jpg.html)



 :shocked: Wowsers, that is very impressive.  I get excited when I go over 40mpg!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: dippy_x on 22 January 2014, 20:31
Yes, at about 2600 mile sof rme - I think it resets every 100 hours of operation.

Aaah.  That's good to know as the same happened to me and I couldn't figure out what I had done.  The car in the mpg graphic getting closer to the petrol pump - does that happen on the standard media system as well?  The car picture on mine never seems to move...
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 01 February 2014, 22:54
Sorry not long term but second journey and longest for my newbie v pleased with mpg, country lanes and B roads.

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag315/sunnymeadenursery/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-02/C57B8EE8-652A-4103-B5B1-75CFF85D6290_zpsfzuw31qs.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/sunnymeadenursery/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-02/C57B8EE8-652A-4103-B5B1-75CFF85D6290_zpsfzuw31qs.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Dully on 03 February 2014, 09:54
Checked the long term stats on the wifes car today, its a GTI PP Manual and she always has it in Sport Mode.

970 Miles
Average MPH 34
Average MPG 31.7

The car does not go much further in one run than the 7 miles to work on steady B roads so hardly gets properly warmed up and its taken her over 4 months to get the 970 miles on it!

I'm quite satisfied with that return and its much the same as her TT was, maybe if it every gets enough miles on it to fully bed in then it might improve slightly.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 04 February 2014, 20:17
Got these stats today:

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/pauliem78/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/11c5f59d-4249-45b8-b3a2-25d2ee36f055_zpsd4945191.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/pauliem78/media/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/11c5f59d-4249-45b8-b3a2-25d2ee36f055_zpsd4945191.jpg.html)

Pretty good really.  This was ECO Mode, Air-con off, making lots of use of the speed limiter.  Don't think I could get it much better than this to be honest.

paul some very impressive figs you doing  :grin:   , i only got mine few days ago, staggering car eh! re trying to get some good figs i drove about 40 yesterday 25 of which motorway (using ACC) balance town, and was pleased with 44mpg, (esp being new, from cold start and it was a cold day) but i will try the speed limiter as you suggest to try and prevent unseen variations in speed from subtle foot movements, but my question is re change up points, are you going off 'feel' set rpm points or using the change up indicator? The latter one seems a bit low rpm to me.

thanks

Adrian
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: pauliem on 05 February 2014, 09:24
Got these stats today:

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab108/pauliem78/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/11c5f59d-4249-45b8-b3a2-25d2ee36f055_zpsd4945191.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/pauliem78/media/New%20MK7%20Golf%20GTI/11c5f59d-4249-45b8-b3a2-25d2ee36f055_zpsd4945191.jpg.html)

Pretty good really.  This was ECO Mode, Air-con off, making lots of use of the speed limiter.  Don't think I could get it much better than this to be honest.

paul some very impressive figs you doing  :grin:   , i only got mine few days ago, staggering car eh! re trying to get some good figs i drove about 40 yesterday 25 of which motorway (using ACC) balance town, and was pleased with 44mpg, (esp being new, from cold start and it was a cold day) but i will try the speed limiter as you suggest to try and prevent unseen variations in speed from subtle foot movements, but my question is re change up points, are you going off 'feel' set rpm points or using the change up indicator? The latter one seems a bit low rpm to me.

thanks

Adrian

Well, I only did it as an experiment really - I do not try to achieve the high numbers anymore unless I am doing a boring motorway journey.  But in answer to your question, I was using feel instead of the change up indicator, having said that I was changing up very early. I think the change indicator is slightly premature about when you can feasibly change gear some of the time.

I think I'm getting about 31mpg now.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: iandjm on 05 February 2014, 10:16
Hi,  I have a 2 week old DSG GTI, on the Isle of Wight, so not the most economical driving by far! I am achieving pretty well 35mpg on every journey.

Ian
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: FNJ-GTI on 05 February 2014, 11:42
Ive now had 65 hours in the car, average speed is 23mph (stupid m25 commute) and my long term economy is 32.4mpg. So no too bad, but not great.
I suppose the economy isn't that bad considering most of my driving is stop / start traffic. Have a long journey planned for this weekend so I shall see if the stats improve.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 05 February 2014, 12:01
Have you seen this guys? You can post your numbers there, the more submitted gives a better average.

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/volkswagen/golf-vii-gti-2013
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: iandjm on 05 February 2014, 13:00
Many thanks, I just have  :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: p3asa on 05 February 2014, 16:24
Would you not get more info from fuelly.com?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 05 February 2014, 19:15
Would you not get more info from fuelly.com?

i don't know would we? in what way? just an average fig as far as im concerned

thanks
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 07 February 2014, 17:09
I am coming up to the long-term max 100hrs auto-reset point.
Covered over 3300 miles with a long-term average of 36.6mpg  :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 07 February 2014, 20:59
I am coming up to the long-term max 100hrs auto-reset point.
Covered over 3300 miles with a long-term average of 36.6mpg  :smiley:

That's a great figure well done. I'm getting 36 on a rubbish for economy journey of 10 miles, country lanes and two towns, so when get it going further for work (and its run in currently on 300 miles) its going to do well. One longer commute to a different office base, 40 ish miles either way returned 44mpg.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: matchboy on 09 February 2014, 11:59
My cars stats reset themselves at around 2400 miles. So I lost all my long term data. :( Anyone else had that happen?

Yes, mine too. Very annoying

Some of the figures you guys are getting on here are unreal, I know I have a heavy foot when there's a clear bit of road and I never take it out of Sport, but I must have done 6k miles and I get 31-32 average tops. I don't really care as if I did I'd of bought a GTD, but that's a long way off the stated 47 combined figures.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 09 February 2014, 12:09
I think what is important to remember is although us MK7 owners aren't saving too much fuel over the MK6 model what we are saving on is road tax.

If you look at a MK6 GTI the annual road tax is £200, on the MK7 GTI it is £125, so a saving of £75. That saving buys around a tank of fuel, around 56L if you pay 133p per litre.

So over the course of a year you gain a 'free' tank of fuel or around 400 miles compared to the MK6 GTI.

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 14 February 2014, 19:09
She's still new and from a cold start included  a decent motorway run of 25 miles very pleased with this mornings mpg, City centre knocked it down a bit but not as much as I thought at 2mpg. 49 mile journey.

http://youtu.be/t3kqpwqpalY

(Sorry the vids not HD no electric since weds, so no broadband)


(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag315/sunnymeadenursery/car/1BDD233E-7113-4A5B-9AA6-93C396041FDA_zpsaootrtlq.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/sunnymeadenursery/media/car/1BDD233E-7113-4A5B-9AA6-93C396041FDA_zpsaootrtlq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mk1Macca on 14 February 2014, 19:31
How??? I'm only just about hitting that in my GTD on a 28 mile journey at lowish, constant speed in 6th :(
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 14 February 2014, 22:12
How??? I'm only just about hitting that in my GTD on a 28 mile journey at lowish, constant speed in 6th :(

Erm dunno on ACC set to 65 on the motorway, just reading ahead to hit lights on green if poss, same at roundabouts to minimize slowing etc etc

Certainly not using the grunt available :-(

Diesel cost comparison roughly equivalent to just over 48mpg :-)

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 17 February 2014, 19:58
Getting a bit of a pattern now on my close to home office (11 miles) stop start journey through 2 small towns with a few miles of A road in between its doing 38mpg on average now. Happy with that. Another run tomorrow to my Liverpool office 49 miles so will be interesting to see if last weeks 46mpg was a fluke
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monsta on 18 February 2014, 14:25
My cars stats reset themselves at around 2400 miles. So I lost all my long term data. :( Anyone else had that happen?

Yes, mine too. Very annoying


Same here, really annoying - wanted to keep it long term for the entire ownership of the car!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: corgi on 18 February 2014, 14:38
If you want that... and have an iphone/ipad...

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/road-trip-mpg-mileage-fuel/id298398207?mt=8
 (https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/road-trip-mpg-mileage-fuel/id298398207?mt=8)
Will help... I know that over 43,048 miles and 40 months in my 911 it has averaged 25.69 with a worst of 18.7 and a best of 32.1

I would imagine that there must be similar apps available for Android...
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: jivemonkey on 18 February 2014, 14:42
If you want that... and have an iphone/ipad...

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/road-trip-mpg-mileage-fuel/id298398207?mt=8
 (https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/road-trip-mpg-mileage-fuel/id298398207?mt=8)
Will help... I know that over 43,048 miles and 40 months in my 911 it has averaged 25.69 with a worst of 18.7 and a best of 32.1

I would imagine that there must be similar apps available for Android...

I can second that. Had this app for years and have accumulated around 5 vehicles on it (both mine and my wife's). Very interesting seeing the trend in fuel prices over the years too. Excellent app.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 19 February 2014, 17:44
http://youtu.be/zYN0KuYaSO0

 :grin: :laugh: :rolleyes: :smug:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 19 February 2014, 18:01
^^ Link doesn't work ^^

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 19 February 2014, 18:19
^^ Link doesn't work ^^

J

Sorry should now
http://youtu.be/zYN0KuYaSO0
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 20 February 2014, 07:49
Were you bored achieving that? I know i was!

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: siforet on 20 February 2014, 12:44
Hi,

I'm a new user writing from Catalonia. I hope I'm welcome here as I'm not from UK but I've entered this forum so many times to read it as I like it a lot I decided to register. Sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker, don't hesitate to make any corrections.

I'm waiting for a new Golf GTI to arrive and I guess I'll be getting better MPG than the average of you as here the GTI comes with 17" wheels as standard. In fact if tests were performed properly 3/5 doors should give different MPG as well as 17/18", weight kills everything and it's incredible to see how official MPG figures between a standard 3 door vs. a 5 door PP+DSG only differ in 3MPG (I had to convert as here we use l/100km).

I'll tell my figures once I have it here!! Have to wait until late march  :angry:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 20 February 2014, 13:20
Were you bored achieving that? I know i was!

J

Can't begin to tell you!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ginagee on 20 February 2014, 13:27
Hi,

I'm a new user writing from Catalonia. I hope I'm welcome here as I'm not from UK but I've entered this forum so many times to read it as I like it a lot I decided to register. Sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker, don't hesitate to make any corrections.

I'm waiting for a new Golf GTI to arrive and I guess I'll be getting better MPG than the average of you as here the GTI comes with 17" wheels as standard. In fact if tests were performed properly 3/5 doors should give different MPG as well as 17/18", weight kills everything and it's incredible to see how official MPG figures between a standard 3 door vs. a 5 door PP+DSG only differ in 3MPG (I had to convert as here we use l/100km).

I'll tell my figures once I have it here!! Have to wait until late march  :angry:

Hola, buenas tardes siforet - your are very welcome here! And your English is brilliant. A lot better than my Spanish! Yes will interesting to see what your mpg figures will be. Don't forget to post your pics too when yours finally arrives. You WILL NOT be disappointed. It is well worth the wait! :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 25 February 2014, 07:57
New personal best, really tried for this one!

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps886b7c87.jpg)

And yes, i was very, very bored!

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Darlo on 25 February 2014, 20:28
New personal best, really tried for this one!

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps886b7c87.jpg)

And yes, i was very, very bored!

J

Wow! Thats impressive and yes you must have been bored.

My best so far when very very bored was 47mpg

Mine has settled at 31.5 mpg over my last few tanks, that's about 320ish miles for £55/£56 (vpower). I never let the range go below 40 miles. That is a complete mix of driving types. That figure is off the OBC and i havent calculated it myself yet. What is weird was my JCW Mini showed 35mpg on the OBC, yet it cost more to fill and I got the same miles as i'm getting from my GTI. So one of them is/was wrong!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 25 February 2014, 20:46
New personal best, really tried for this one!

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/thefpvadventures/null_zps886b7c87.jpg)

And yes, i was very, very bored!

J

nice work J, very impressed  :shocked:

the white 5dr pic yours?, pp? manual?

A
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 25 February 2014, 22:14
Darlo, i too had a JCW previously to the GTI, overall i think the GTI is a little more expensive on to run on fuel, but it is very marginal.

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 25 February 2014, 22:16
A, yes it is mine. Currently driving a non performance pack manual (now around 7500 miles). Picking up the new GTI on Saturday with performance pack but still manual. Will be interesting to see if there is any difference in consumption.

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 25 February 2014, 23:44
A, yes it is mine. Currently driving a non performance pack manual (now around 7500 miles). Picking up the new GTI on Saturday with performance pack but still manual. Will be interesting to see if there is any difference in consumption.

J

Gosh 2 Gti's? can't be many around owned two already! How old is the current one?

What sort of journey was it to break the magical 50?


A


Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 26 February 2014, 08:00
A, yes it is mine. Currently driving a non performance pack manual (now around 7500 miles). Picking up the new GTI on Saturday with performance pack but still manual. Will be interesting to see if there is any difference in consumption.

J

Gosh 2 Gti's? can't be many around owned two already! How old is the current one?

What sort of journey was it to break the magical 50?


A

Yes, picking up my second on March 1st. Collected the first one 3rd September however after rejecting it due to serious paintwork issues, the replacement is now due. Managed to keep hold of the first one for the 6 month waiting list too so thats a bonus.

I was really trying to max out the mpg for the entire journey. Started on a B road for around a mile, then around 5 miles of A road and then around 30 miles of motorway. Car was set to individual mode with everything in sport except the engine as i hate the sound of the sound-aktor.

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 26 February 2014, 08:09
Gosh 2 Gti's? can't be many around owned two already! How old is the current one?

What sort of journey was it to break the magical 50?


A

Magical is the word - ever seen the Disney/Pixar movie "UP!". The car technically weighs nowt because he's strapped 380 helium filled balloons to his roof rack. He adds 50 more when he wants to skip traffic and float over the gridlocked roads.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 26 February 2014, 08:40
A, yes it is mine. Currently driving a non performance pack manual (now around 7500 miles). Picking up the new GTI on Saturday with performance pack but still manual. Will be interesting to see if there is any difference in consumption.

J

Gosh 2 Gti's? can't be many around owned two already! How old is the current one?

What sort of journey was it to break the magical 50?


A

Yes, picking up my second on March 1st. Collected the first one 3rd September however after rejecting it due to serious paintwork issues, the replacement is now due. Managed to keep hold of the first one for the 6 month waiting list too so thats a bonus.

I was really trying to max out the mpg for the entire journey. Started on a B road for around a mile, then around 5 miles of A road and then around 30 miles of motorway. Car was set to individual mode with everything in sport except the engine as i hate the sound of the sound-aktor.

J

I've gate crashed the 50 club this morning!

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag315/sunnymeadenursery/car/B193F6C1-C843-4DF6-8215-DAF01676627B_zpsm4mvfd7z.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/sunnymeadenursery/media/car/B193F6C1-C843-4DF6-8215-DAF01676627B_zpsm4mvfd7z.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 26 February 2014, 08:41
I think I briefly saw 40mpg one day which was a bit of a shock. I'm amazed that it's even possible to see 50mpg in the GTI regardless of how you drive
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 26 February 2014, 09:18
I agree, seeing 50mpg on a GTI is amazing. Most I have ever got on my 41 mile commute is 45mpg.
My car has just passed 4100miles.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 26 February 2014, 09:55
Well done Ap! (not sure whether i should be congratulating on a GTI forum :rolleyes:)

How did you achieve it?

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monsta on 26 February 2014, 11:39
I think I briefly saw 40mpg one day which was a bit of a shock. I'm amazed that it's even possible to see 50mpg in the GTI regardless of how you drive

I've been managing to get over 40 mpg on certain motorway routes now (door to door including urban driving) but still wouldn't dream of 50!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GiT1984 on 26 February 2014, 12:20
I think that AP69 must be some sort of saint ..... My car will never see those numbers!  :evil:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: matchboy on 26 February 2014, 12:25
I think I briefly saw 40mpg one day which was a bit of a shock. I'm amazed that it's even possible to see 50mpg in the GTI regardless of how you drive

I've never even seen 40!  I briefly got to 38.9 once, then within 2 mins it was back down to 31  :laugh: :evil:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GiT1984 on 26 February 2014, 12:46
I think I briefly saw 40mpg one day which was a bit of a shock. I'm amazed that it's even possible to see 50mpg in the GTI regardless of how you drive

I've never even seen 40!  I briefly got to 38.9 once, then within 2 mins it was back down to 31  :laugh: :evil:

40? The girlfriends Mk5 used to return 23.5mpg with her at the wheel (!) and even my fast (but very slightly smoother) style only produced an average of 28.5mpg! (About the same as I was getting out of my E90 BMW 330i Auto at the time).

If I see 35mpg long term, then I'll be very happy, but given that the boys at EVO are only getting 31.2mpg out of their long term test car - somehow I doubt it!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: lew321 on 26 February 2014, 20:20
I've managed to get 41 MPG on a round trip from Sussex to the NEC while using Eco mode, rather liked the coasting feature. Total mileage on car now is 550
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: CraigW on 26 February 2014, 20:36
I think like a few others I've found I get better mpg in sport mode than I do in eco for some strange reason. Eco mode seems lousy for me.

Mind you the last time I was in eco mode some young upstart tried to undertake me in a bog standard Clio and I thought i'm not having this and floored it. Didn't help my economy much  :grin:. The  :evil: on your shoulders eh
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ginagee on 27 February 2014, 13:10
I'm with you CraigW, Sport seems to give better mpg, than normal and eco. What's that all about? I'm just under 1000 miles now, best mpg average is 32.8.

Talking  :evil:…A Civic R had a go a few days back entering a motorway. He was on the RH lane of slip road. I kept in front right up to 70  :whistle: but I wasn't going to be a nutter and loose my licence. NB: He was a nutter and deserved to loose his.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: stuart.cameron on 12 March 2014, 15:16
Over 3500 miles I've only seen 50mpg once in my GTD!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 12 March 2014, 19:19
Over 3500 miles I've only seen 50mpg once in my GTD!

What's the av you're getting, what sort of journeys and how do you drive it?

The 50 was hard and over a Decent length (50 miles) and inc fair bit of motorways.

Mines doing 37 average short 10 mile commutes at normal other traffic speeds and 45 on my 50 mile other office commute. :-)

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: gazmondo35 on 12 March 2014, 19:54
Not sure what mpg I'm getting in the gti,I Prefer to know what I'm doing to a full tank & that's about 320 miles ,about the same as my old mapped my mk5 gti.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: stuart.cameron on 13 March 2014, 11:57
Over 3500 miles I've only seen 50mpg once in my GTD!

What's the av you're getting, what sort of journeys and how do you drive it?

The 50 was hard and over a Decent length (50 miles) and inc fair bit of motorways.

Mines doing 37 average short 10 mile commutes at normal other traffic speeds and 45 on my 50 mile other office commute. :-)

Average is 41mpg.

20 mile commute in the morning.
- 1 mile B road (sit for about 30 seconds waiting to join the dual carriage way)
- 2 miles Dual Carriage
- 1 mile B road
- 1 mile through town (normally one set of traffic lights)
- 12 miles B roads (two junctions, normally clear)
- 2 miles through town into the office (two junctions, normally clear)

Coming home varies, depending on the day it can be anything from 20 to 80 miles. Normally all A/B Roads.

Long stretches on the dual carriage way normally only average about mid 40's between 20 and 50 miles.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: matchboy on 13 March 2014, 13:15
Average is 41mpg.

20 mile commute in the morning.
- 1 mile B road (sit for about 30 seconds waiting to join the dual carriage way)
- 2 miles Dual Carriage
- 1 mile B road
- 1 mile through town (normally one set of traffic lights)
- 12 miles B roads (two junctions, normally clear)
- 2 miles through town into the office (two junctions, normally clear)

That's 19 miles  :laugh: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GiT1984 on 13 March 2014, 13:46
Mine's only got 380 miles on the clock - but I'm already up to 32mpg and I don't exactly hang around!

Commute is 20 miles each way on a mix of B road, Dual Carriageway and speed restricted / de-restricted A road. The final element of my journey involves at least 10 mins sat in stationary traffic; waiting to get onto the roundabout for the business park. (Reading is famous for it's traffic issues).

Whilst I'm still running in - I've not been light with the throttle loads - but I have only opened her up fully a couple of times. I reckon I'll end up averaging around 35mpg day to day - which is perfectly acceptable in my book! :)

Eco Pro is dull - but it does seem to produce a 10% improvement over Normal on my commute - you just have to remmeber to keep your distance from the car in front and lift off the throttle early as it "coasts" on the DSG ...  :undecided:

Sport is about 10% worse than Normal - but much more fun! :D
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GiT1984 on 14 March 2014, 18:17
Over 3500 miles I've only seen 50mpg once in my GTD!

What's the av you're getting, what sort of journeys and how do you drive it?

The 50 was hard and over a Decent length (50 miles) and inc fair bit of motorways.

Mines doing 37 average short 10 mile commutes at normal other traffic speeds and 45 on my 50 mile other office commute. :-)

Average is 41mpg.

20 mile commute in the morning.
- 1 mile B road (sit for about 30 seconds waiting to join the dual carriage way)
- 2 miles Dual Carriage
- 1 mile B road
- 1 mile through town (normally one set of traffic lights)
- 12 miles B roads (two junctions, normally clear)
- 2 miles through town into the office (two junctions, normally clear)

Coming home varies, depending on the day it can be anything from 20 to 80 miles. Normally all A/B Roads.

Long stretches on the dual carriage way normally only average about mid 40's between 20 and 50 miles.

Jeez you must drive hard! My A3 Quattro (with the added drag of the 4WD and an older generation of your engine) used to average 46.5mpg. I could get 33mpg average out of it when driving absolutely flat out ..... I best I saw was 67.9mpg on a 15 mile A road run!

Anyway - back to the GTi subject of the thread ..... a few more miles on the clock (now over 450 - phew) and I've seen a few runs of 36mpg (limiting myself to a max of 80mph) and tonight I got it up to 38, despite a full throttle launch off a roundabout!  :smug:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 21 March 2014, 16:29
A shortish run to the office.

From cold inc stop starting shutting the gates etc. Country lanes, B road. A road and about 23 motorway miles

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag315/sunnymeadenursery/car/9ADEC854-D270-4AD1-A696-180FF7F56D55_zpsh9oqy8m6.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/sunnymeadenursery/media/car/9ADEC854-D270-4AD1-A696-180FF7F56D55_zpsh9oqy8m6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 21 March 2014, 16:33
Your screen is a little ermm dusty  :shocked:

I have no idea how on earth your getting such good mpg... how many miles has your GTI covered?
Mine has nearly done 6000 miles but mainly motorways.. best I seem to get is between 39-45mpg over 41 miles.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GiT1984 on 21 March 2014, 18:47
Your screen is a little ermm dusty  :shocked:

I have no idea how on earth your getting such good mpg... how many miles has your GTI covered?
Mine has nearly done 6000 miles but mainly motorways.. best I seem to get is between 39-45mpg over 41 miles.  :smiley:

AP69 is some sort of Saint! I will never get the mpg he does out of my car ..... but now I'm over 650 miles it does seem to be improving steadily ....
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 21 March 2014, 19:11
I forgot, it's roughly 380ish range
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GolfTi on 21 March 2014, 19:35
That's impressive, I think...
Must have been quite painful but shows what the GTI can do.



GTD forum is at the top of the page if you want to pee off some of the oil burners :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 March 2014, 20:26
That's impressive, I think...
Must have been quite painful but shows what the GTI can do.

GTD forum is at the top of the page if you want to pee off some of the oil burners :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

I'm happy enough with 240PS, 500Nm torque and an actual 44mpg around the doors/53mpg on the motorway (<50 miles) with a heavy right foot.  :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

Very impressive for a GTI, but what's the average cruising speed to attain 45mpg? We will all see mpg gains as the weather warms up - Summer should see 10% more miles than Winter.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GolfTi on 21 March 2014, 20:39
Good figures Monkey  :smiley:

Is that with some sort of assistance or stock?

Mapping does tend to skew the indicated vs actual a little.

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 March 2014, 20:42
Good figures Monkey  :smiley:

Is that with some sort of assistance or stock?

Mapping does tend to skew the indicated vs actual a little.

That's the DTUK box (dyno figures on their test car with same engine - Skoda VRS), indicated 47mpg on mine, brim fill actual 44mpg. Totally transformed the car.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 22 March 2014, 05:26
Your screen is a little ermm dusty  :shocked:

I have no idea how on earth your getting such good mpg... how many miles has your GTI covered?
Mine has nearly done 6000 miles but mainly motorways.. best I seem to get is between 39-45mpg over 41 miles.  :smiley:

Yours is doing very well at that, so many factors make a difference.

Time of day re traffic levels makes over 10% difference too.

If you did my route I'm sure it would be the same.

Mines done 1.3k miles.

I had a Prius before the Gti, and was an anorak 'hypermiler club' nothing particularly ground breaking just all the normal tips combined.

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 22 March 2014, 09:23
I has a Polo Bluemotion before the GTI.
75mpg :o
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 30 March 2014, 11:26
Just passed 6200 miles and my long-term average is improving, currently sitting at 38.2 mpg.
Today I saw an impressive 49.7mpg crusing at 50mph using ACC  :smiley:
Very nice!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: geob on 30 March 2014, 16:22
went to york from durham on saturday got 45 mpg since refuel thats not bad :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mrzen on 01 April 2014, 14:16
36 mpg is the best I can get driving like a saint, in ECO mode on a mixture of A roads and dual carriageways with little or no traffic. I've only done 500 miles so far, so hopefully this should improve as the engine beds in.

If I drive normally I'm getting around 31 mpg.

My previous car was an Audi A3 170 TDI, same route driving like a saint would get me close enough to 60 mpg and when driving normally 50 mpg was quite normal.

I'm not all that bothered, and was expecting not to get the figures quoted, but how do VW think the quoted figures bear any relation to what is achievable in real life?
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: blade67 on 01 April 2014, 16:49
Went to Brighton this weekend (from London) and did 38mpg on my down and 37 coming back. Not too bad considering I was doing 80mph on the motorway  :smiley:. I only have 300miles on the clock so should get slightly better as it beds in. It's definitely more economical than my previous mk5 GTI. So far very happy with the new car  :grin:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mullermn on 01 April 2014, 17:06
My long term is about 34. On the 155 mile run to Manchester this morning (through what seems like never ending average speed roadworks) I got 40mpg.

PP GTI with 6300 on the clock. I only use either comfort or individual modes (which for me is basically sport mode with comfort DCC), I use ACC at 83 (speedo - 80 GPS speed) all the time on motorways, climate control is always on and I put my foot down at almost every opportunity.

The worst type of driving is my congested commute - I get better efficiency driving like I stole it than I do on my usual 7 mile crawl to work.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: andygou on 01 April 2014, 18:24
36 mpg is the best I can get driving like a saint, in ECO mode on a mixture of A roads and dual carriageways with little or no traffic. I've only done 500 miles so far, so hopefully this should improve as the engine beds in.

If I drive normally I'm getting around 31 mpg.

My previous car was an Audi A3 170 TDI, same route driving like a saint would get me close enough to 60 mpg and when driving normally 50 mpg was quite normal.

I'm not all that bothered, and was expecting not to get the figures quoted, but how do VW think the quoted figures bear any relation to what is achievable in real life?

Hi MrZen

in your comparison, please don't forget that the previous A3 computer was typically 5-10% optimistic. My A3 140 TDI SS averaged 48 mpg by calculation, against 55 according to the computer.

The GTI computer in comparison seems spot on. I've averaged 38.1 according to the computer and 38.0 by calculation over the first 1000 miles.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 01 April 2014, 20:21
Just tried today the commute to my Liverpool office 50ish miles to see what difference the the roof rack made. Normally with the same style 48 today 45 about 7% difference. My club though think it looks better with it fitted especially with the tour of Flanders sticker under the Gti !

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag315/sunnymeadenursery/car/69E5EFC7-F210-4A30-AF17-BBE6B76DB288_zpssaxf7ftn.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/sunnymeadenursery/media/car/69E5EFC7-F210-4A30-AF17-BBE6B76DB288_zpssaxf7ftn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mrzen on 03 April 2014, 15:27

Hi MrZen

in your comparison, please don't forget that the previous A3 computer was typically 5-10% optimistic. My A3 140 TDI SS averaged 48 mpg by calculation, against 55 according to the computer.

The GTI computer in comparison seems spot on. I've averaged 38.1 according to the computer and 38.0 by calculation over the first 1000 miles.

That's interesting - I did wonder about the accuracy and never actually checked reality - also interestingly in the A3, the (claimed) MPG improved 15-20% after a recall to replace the injectors - with such a big difference I did wonder if this was down to tampering with the computer!

GTI did 39 MPG the other day on a mostly motorway run, so seems to be loosening up.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GiT1984 on 04 April 2014, 12:33
36 mpg is the best I can get driving like a saint, in ECO mode on a mixture of A roads and dual carriageways with little or no traffic. I've only done 500 miles so far, so hopefully this should improve as the engine beds in.

If I drive normally I'm getting around 31 mpg.

My previous car was an Audi A3 170 TDI, same route driving like a saint would get me close enough to 60 mpg and when driving normally 50 mpg was quite normal.

I'm not all that bothered, and was expecting not to get the figures quoted, but how do VW think the quoted figures bear any relation to what is achievable in real life?

The engines are amazingly tight when new! I didn't get over 34mpg until I'd done over 500 miles. Now that it's over 1,200miles it's completely different - the engine is smoother, freer revving and much more economical. Now I can easily get 36mpg on a longer run, even with plenty of overtaking / higher speeds. Best is 40mpg and worst is 27mpg, with a long term average of 32 mpg (since new) and climbing steadily .....

Compared to the MK5 GTi my girlfriend used to run (long term average of 27mpg - worse than the E90 BMW 330i Auto I had at the time) - it's amazing!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mrzen on 07 April 2014, 11:35
The engines are amazingly tight when new! I didn't get over 34mpg until I'd done over 500 miles. Now that it's over 1,200miles it's completely different - the engine is smoother, freer revving and much more economical. Now I can easily get 36mpg on a longer run, even with plenty of overtaking / higher speeds. Best is 40mpg and worst is 27mpg, with a long term average of 32 mpg (since new) and climbing steadily .....

Update - milage now just over 1000, and managed 39mpg without thinking about it too much, so what 1984 is saying here (and what plenty of others seem to be saying) is true - it really does loosen up nicely...

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mullermn on 07 April 2014, 12:57
Bristol-Manchester run again this morning. Took it slightly easier this time with cruise at 75 rather than 85 (other than roadworks of which there are several stretches). Over the 155 miles it came out at 44.5mpg average.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: REEVE888 on 07 April 2014, 18:38
I got 39 driving 20 miles to work the other day but I was driving like a wimp just to see what I could get. The next day I got 36. Both pretty good. Saw no difference between the Eco mode and normal mode. That just seems to switch the air con off quicker.

Completely down to how you drive the car is my assessment. Oh and I averaged 40 on a motorway drive from Leeds to Milton Keynes the other week. ACC all the way!!
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GiT1984 on 07 April 2014, 23:30
The engines are amazingly tight when new! I didn't get over 34mpg until I'd done over 500 miles. Now that it's over 1,200miles it's completely different - the engine is smoother, freer revving and much more economical. Now I can easily get 36mpg on a longer run, even with plenty of overtaking / higher speeds. Best is 40mpg and worst is 27mpg, with a long term average of 32 mpg (since new) and climbing steadily .....

Update - milage now just over 1000, and managed 39mpg without thinking about it too much, so what 1984 is saying here (and what plenty of others seem to be saying) is true - it really does loosen up nicely...

Good to hear!  :grin:

Mind you, our resident Eco master, AP69; will probably be along in a minute to make me look like my right foot is made of depleted uranium ....... :undecided:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 08 April 2014, 08:17
First proper run with the tuning box on today. Usually driving at the speeds i was doing i would expect around 44mpg. With the box fitted i achieved 45mpg. I know there may be some discrepancies between the MFD mpg and actual mpg but i will leave that test for another time.

I will try and break my record of 51mpg at some point, but that isn't what performance tuning boxes are made for right?!

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Raymondo on 12 April 2014, 12:06
48.5 on the way on home last night. 22 mile trip with mostly motorway. Kept it to about 65-70 on motorways and used Eco mode to its fullest - coasting. No sharp acceleration from standing start. 6100 on the clock and the engine is getting far better on economy
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 12 April 2014, 14:13
I think that is the best DSG MPG i have seen so far Raymondo!

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GiT1984 on 12 April 2014, 18:27
Jeez - how do you guys do it? The best I've seen was 40mpg (admittedly my car has only done 1,400 miles) - but I was having to drive so gently and it was so boring that I vowed not to do it again.

So I'm just enjoying the mid range lunge and the diff juggling the power as I smear my Contis across the tarmac on the way out of roundabouts with my foot in the carpet! :D
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: mdianuk on 12 April 2014, 18:37
I've been massively disappointed with the mpg, but am seeing some glimmer of hope. The DSG GTI I had was only managing 30mpg at best around town (2000 miles on the clock), where as the replacement Manual GTI (identical cars apart from this) is seeing 33-35mpg on similar town runs. The Manual is quoted as having better mpg which I assume is largely down to the reduced weight, but the difference is there, plus the Manual is brand new, now with 100 miles on the clock, so presumably they improve as they wear in.

So, weight and less electronics resulting in better mpg, or am I just a more efficient gear changer than the computer ;)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Exonian on 13 April 2014, 23:07
Just stuck 48 litres in today and had 290 miles since last refill showing.
And I don't even drive fast! Hardly any town work, nearly all early-morning (no traffic) dual carriageway work.
I must need driving lessons. Even my thirsty mk5 did better than that!

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Raymondo on 14 April 2014, 04:58
Guys, they do loosen up. That 48.5 run would have yielded 40-42 with 2-3k on the clock.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 April 2014, 07:45
I do think the whole "loosening up" thing is debateable on a modern engine with far finer manufacturing tolerances than we saw 10 years ago. I've never seen appreciable gains in 6 brand new VWs from 2k-30k miles, although I do see seasonal variance. I see a little loosening up in the first 1k miles and then nothing after that which I would attribute to loosening up.

MPG will be 10% better in the summer than the winter. Buy your car in the latter 1/3 of 2013, run it through winter and see poor mpg and then all of a sudden the mpg goes up considerably very recently. Is it the miracle of running in, or is it the warmer weather than makes you car take 1/3 less time to warm up and the humidity in the air that gives more expansion per combustion? Car all of a sudden gets better mpg at around 12-15k miles? Could it be perhaps those new tyres you had put on your fronts that have a far better rolling resistance than some of the obsolete OEM crap that VW uses?

Even this year on my GTD, I have seen the mpg increase appreciably for a few weeks when it stared to warm up and then dip right back down when we had a cold snap for a few weeks. My dad is at 18k miles in his GTD DSG, which he got on July 1st 2013. His mpg is no better than it was when he bought it. He has seen his mpg dip a bit in the winter and then go up a bit again more recently. He's due some new front tyres shortly - it'll be interesting to see if he sees any gains when he puts some Michelin Pilot Sport 3s on.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Raymondo on 14 April 2014, 08:27
Could it be perhaps those new tyres you had put on your fronts that have a far better rolling resistance than some of the obsolete OEM crap that VW uses?

I'm still on the same tyres all round - PS3's. 

I totally agree that weather does play a part, but we are not exactly tropical at the moment and this winter has been fairly mild. 

Lots of other things can play a part - do you live in a hilly/flat area?  Driving style - is the driver reading traffic well enough ahead to coast to a slower speed, rather than braking and accerating etc.  So I agree with you that it might not just be the engine for me or countless others when we see changes in our mpg.

All I was trying report on was my findings and whilst  weather may be playing a part, nothing else has changed, so I have to assume that the engine loosening up is a big factor in the improved mpg.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 14 April 2014, 16:24
48.5 on the way on home last night. 22 mile trip with mostly motorway. Kept it to about 65-70 on motorways and used Eco mode to its fullest - coasting. No sharp acceleration from standing start. 6100 on the clock and the engine is getting far better on economy

After 6,500 miles mine is running very similar to Raymondo's GTI. Regularly getting 42-46 mpg on a good motorway runs (of around 30 miles in free flowing traffic using ECO and light throttle). However acording to the on board trip computer my long term mpg is currently 37.8 mpg. So, I'm pretty happy given the power on tap and running a DSG box too :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GolfTi on 18 April 2014, 19:32
(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy244/darrong/IMG_0692.jpg)

Best ever for me from a tankful. 455 miles.

Oil change service last week, ECU update carried out also during service, car seems smoother too....
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: 2014GTi on 18 April 2014, 19:39
(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy244/darrong/IMG_0692.jpg)

Best ever for me from a tankful. 455 miles.

Oil change service last week, ECU update carried out also during service, car seems smoother too....
Any details of that the ECU update was for etc? :)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GolfTi on 18 April 2014, 19:48
Just the usual service bulletin ECU update, I didn't ask for details :embarrassed:

They did use long life oil though and left a bottle of VW screenwash in the boot. :smiley:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Peeair on 22 April 2014, 13:34
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t225/peeair79/MPG1_zps71db9dee.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/peeair79/media/MPG1_zps71db9dee.jpg.html)

Is this the record?  :wink:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GiT1984 on 22 April 2014, 18:53
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t225/peeair79/MPG1_zps71db9dee.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/peeair79/media/MPG1_zps71db9dee.jpg.html)

Is this the record?  :wink:

Possibly - but as it's such a short journey - can you repeat it over a tankful? :)

There are hypermilers on here who have over 45mpg as their long term average .....  :shocked:
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Peeair on 22 April 2014, 19:27
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t225/peeair79/MPG1_zps71db9dee.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/peeair79/media/MPG1_zps71db9dee.jpg.html)

Is this the record?  :wink:

Possibly - but as it's such a short journey - can you repeat it over a tankful? :)

There are hypermilers on here who have over 45mpg as their long term average .....  :shocked:

I think the average for the entire journey was about 47/48 MPG. A 130 mile journey.

Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: FNJ-GTI on 23 April 2014, 08:57
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/Fernanjoe/20140423_082648_zps37d454aa.jpg) (http://s67.photobucket.com/user/Fernanjoe/media/20140423_082648_zps37d454aa.jpg.html)

Slow ride to work this morning, 18mph @ 30 mpg ish. My long term average is about 35mpg so not too bad, but these commutes really drag it down.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GiT1984 on 23 April 2014, 18:54
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t225/peeair79/MPG1_zps71db9dee.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/peeair79/media/MPG1_zps71db9dee.jpg.html)

Is this the record?  :wink:

Possibly - but as it's such a short journey - can you repeat it over a tankful? :)

There are hypermilers on here who have over 45mpg as their long term average .....  :shocked:

I think the average for the entire journey was about 47/48 MPG. A 130 mile journey.

Ah! I was going on the picture which suggests that it was a 13 mile journey ..... :)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 23 April 2014, 21:00
In my experience this is how the GTI economy behaves and all you guys posting 40-50 MPG and pretending that it's the normal MPG you achieve in day to day driving conditions and various routes are kidding yourselves. If you are getting 40-50 MPG you are not using any power at all or are driving at a very smooth and consistent speed on the motorway. It goes like this;

Long Motorway Journeys - 40-45MPG
Driving around town at 30-40MPH with normal traffic - 30MPG
Driving around town without traffic - 35MPG.
Driving around town in heavy traffic (lots of stop/start) - 22-27MPG
Driving the car spiritedly - 22-25MPG.

These are my average real-life results from various driving styles over my last 5000 miles.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ginagee on 23 April 2014, 21:44
In my experience this is how the GTI economy behaves and all you guys posting 40-50 MPG and pretending that it's the normal MPG you achieve in day to day driving conditions and various routes are kidding yourselves. If you are getting 40-50 MPG you are not using any power at all or are driving at a very smooth and consistent speed on the motorway. It goes like this;

Long Motorway Journeys - 40-45MPG
Driving around town at 30-40MPH with normal traffic - 30MPG
Driving around town without traffic - 35MPG.
Driving around town in heavy traffic (lots of stop/start) - 22-27MPG
Driving the car spiritedly - 22-25MPG.

These are my average real-life results from various driving styles over my last 5000 miles.

Thanks Mr Savage. This pretty much sums up the mpg on my PP GTi, and how different the mpg is for different journeys.
I'm NOT getting this fabled 40-45mpg on long motorway journeys though!
Currently with 2700miles on the clock, long term mpg is 34.8. I mostly do 'around town, no traffic - 30 to 40 mph' driving.
A long drive down to Devon and back helped get the long term mpg looking better, it was at 29.7 prior to the trip.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Mr Savage on 23 April 2014, 22:45
In my experience this is how the GTI economy behaves and all you guys posting 40-50 MPG and pretending that it's the normal MPG you achieve in day to day driving conditions and various routes are kidding yourselves. If you are getting 40-50 MPG you are not using any power at all or are driving at a very smooth and consistent speed on the motorway. It goes like this;

Long Motorway Journeys - 40-45MPG
Driving around town at 30-40MPH with normal traffic - 30MPG
Driving around town without traffic - 35MPG.
Driving around town in heavy traffic (lots of stop/start) - 22-27MPG
Driving the car spiritedly - 22-25MPG.

These are my average real-life results from various driving styles over my last 5000 miles.

Thanks Mr Savage. This pretty much sums up the mpg on my PP GTi, and how different the mpg is for different journeys.
I'm NOT getting this fabled 40-45mpg on long motorway journeys though!
Currently with 2700miles on the clock, long term mpg is 34.8. I mostly do 'around town, no traffic - 30 to 40 mph' driving.
A long drive down to Devon and back helped get the long term mpg looking better, it was at 29.7 prior to the trip.

No problem Ginagee. My long term average is also around that figure and seems to stick around the 30 mark. To get the famous 40-45MPG on motorways you need to pretty much go into the slow lane and cruise along at 60-65MPH without using Adaptive Cruise Control and with Climate Control turned off and feathering the pedal and releasing it all together when going down hill to build up speed. I know, not really worth it.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GTI7me on 25 April 2014, 14:08
I wouldn't agree with your last point Savage. I can quite easily achieve more than 40MPG on the motorway when sticking between 75 and 85. I don't even have to put any effort in to get that kind of consumption, it just happens  :huh:

J
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Raymondo on 25 April 2014, 15:08
I agree with both points.  To get into the high 40's, yes I do need to keep it at about 60-65 and really think about my driving style.  So you're spot on Mr Savage.  Does it bother me driving like this?  Not on the way home with average speed cameras and sometimes heavy traffic.  How can I have fun in that?  So why waste fuel?  I might as well set challenges on saving it for the fun drives.

But I also agree with GTI7me and that I can be more spirited / not worry about driving style and get anything from 37-42 on my commutes.

It's only when I decide to put some lead in my shoes and have fun that the MPG goes south.

I think we've all said, the GTI is not a car we buy for consumption.  If we want better we'd go for a GTD or a TDI.  But the beauty of the car is that if we want decent mpg and are prepared to put some though into our driving style, then 40-50 is easily achievable.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: pjr on 14 June 2014, 23:53
Long term average is 34.0 according to trip computer, and 34.1 according to my manual record on Spritmonitor.

A journey today on hilly, twisty A roads returned 40.2, although some of that was stuck behind slower moving traffic with no opportunity to overtake. Although, once the road straightened out a bit, I did overtake a few cars  :smiley:

Long Term
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3923/14419217062_50c7047dab_z.jpg)
Today's Trip
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3891/14419216292_d7ed8e9b1c_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Ap69 on 05 August 2014, 17:11
6k miles completed  long term before it reset its self was circa 2-3k miles 39.2mpg.

Highest seen today steady motorway run which included some traffic stop start.

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag315/sunnymeadenursery/D6053A3F-4720-4536-BB71-51C62689B9AD_zpsjqh8f3ip.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/sunnymeadenursery/media/D6053A3F-4720-4536-BB71-51C62689B9AD_zpsjqh8f3ip.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: RVallance on 05 August 2014, 18:08
Hi all,

I'm getting about 37mpg on the 8 mile run to work which consists of mixed roads. Although it takes almost 10mins of my 15min journey for the oil to reach temp so I don't get the chance to give it some stick. On the motorway I get mid 40's so I'm pretty pleased with the fuel consumption.
Much better than my mk4 20vT was giving me.
To be honest, I'm not fussed about mpg as I only do 7k miles per year.
This is my fourth car and fourth GTI (mk2,mk3 and mk4) and this is the best yet, I love it. Although the mk2 will always have a special place in my memories, that was a brilliant, fun car to drive.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: HK Phooey on 05 August 2014, 18:14
An interesting thread - just been out to look at my car, not paid too much to the mpg so far.

But long term with an average speed of 40mph I'm getting 35.8mpg - that's mainly A and B roads around the Cotswolds.

The best I've seen so far is 40mpg on a run down to Somerset with the family on board and the cruise set at 80mph.

Given the car's only done 5,000 miles so far and I have a fairly heavy right foot I didn't think that was too bad. From experience it usually takes a good 12,000 before the mpg settles down.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: remlapeel on 10 October 2014, 19:01
Thought I would throw my perspective in. 

My Gti PP manual has now done 18k. I travel most of my time between 40-80 on single track or dual carriage way in generally light traffic.  Each day my journey is a minimum of 20miles each way.  Im not overly heavy footed unless some ricer needs to be taught a lesson... My average is around 37mpg long term with me getting around 350miles from each tank of tesco momentum.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: GolfTi on 10 October 2014, 21:37
11 gallons x 37mpg should be over 400 per tank.

Mine after 17k is 36mpg long term. I normally get 370 or so before the refuel warning. 400 in total if I'm lucky.

Are you remapped? Indicated fuel consumption becomes a little optimistic if you are.

Momentum seems to give another 20-30 the odd time I've tried it.
Title: Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
Post by: Pixelmix on 11 December 2014, 09:32
3,300 miles in, and showing roughly 33mpg on the long term still. This isn't helped by my wife doing too many short journeys for my liking.

What is the rule on the long term MPG resetting? Mine reset recently (maybe around the 3,000 mark). Does it reset itself at set intervals?