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Title: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: hastd2 on 15 November 2013, 06:53
Hi guys, was browsing the VW Driver Mag last night (Issue 162 November 2013) and came across this artical about the new Pipercross Performance Panel filter part number - (PP1895) priced at £35.99 inc Vat
So this morning I went to the website and typed in the Part Number to see below :

http://www.thepipercrossshop.co.uk/pipercross-rectangle-performance-panel-filter-length-292mm-x-width-177mm-pp1895_p24317830.htm

Pipercross Rectangle Performance Panel Filter (Length 292mm x Width 177mm) PP1895
£35.99 inc VAT
Does not fit Volkswagen Model  No reviews yet Write a review  In Stock•Increased Power
•Lifetime Warranty
•Improved Fuel economy
•Direct replacement
•30% less restrictive that your OE filter

Cpome on VW Mag get your facts right before printing to the guys  :whistle:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: KyleB on 15 November 2013, 19:06
Does changing a panel filter do much?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: ROO1 on 15 November 2013, 19:08
Does changing a panel filter do much?

No
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 15 November 2013, 19:54
But as there are no cai's yet people will get bored and buy one
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: Geomets on 16 November 2013, 09:55
There are CAIs. The hf series is one of them. But I can't upload a photo... Though, the air inlet is located behind the ones for mk6 because of the frame around the radiators/intercooler... VW changed the design in the front end of the engine bay (probably for aerodynamic reasons), so now a CAI can't be put directly in the fresh air stream... So, no actual CAI... I'm going to wait and see what APR is going to offer. The Carbonio one for the mk6 is amazingly beautiful and efficient with the ECU tweak from APR. :-)
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 16 November 2013, 11:22
Yeah I had a open cone previously On my Leon but I'm defo going carbonio or vwr this time
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 16 November 2013, 14:29
http://performancedrive.com.au/hg-motorsport-tunes-the-volkswagen-golf-gti-mk7/hg-motorsport-volkswagen-golf-gti-mk7-engine/ anyone know whose this is?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: wigit on 16 November 2013, 14:37
Looks like the APR Carbonio
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 16 November 2013, 15:21
Yes it does but unless it's a modified mk6 one I don't see how it can be
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: Exonian on 16 November 2013, 15:27
To the OP - Neil B at VW Driver just goes on information submitted to them. He doesn't have time to check everything out I doubt. He has to act in good faith or miss production deadlines.

And in all honesty, why bother unless you're remapping the car?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: Geomets on 16 November 2013, 17:30
http://performancedrive.com.au/hg-motorsport-tunes-the-volkswagen-golf-gti-mk7/hg-motorsport-volkswagen-golf-gti-mk7-engine/ anyone know whose this is?

Isn't she a beauty in her white dress???
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: Tornado8 on 07 February 2014, 20:25
Sorry to ask this if it has been asked before. I have put on a pipercross filter and am wondering what the
louvered panel is for in the box, it seems to be restricting the airflow. Can I remove it?
The car seems to pick up faster even with it there!
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 07 February 2014, 20:46
Not known for certain, some say it's a snow protector... Either way mines in the garage now :smiley:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: Ap69 on 07 February 2014, 22:00
Nothing you could feel or record.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: Tornado8 on 07 February 2014, 22:10
yes it does feel more responsive!
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 13 February 2014, 11:44
http://www.goapr.com.au/products/pi_vw_golf7_pindex-new.html

VWR Filter out there somewhere supposedly, but i cant find it
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 13 February 2014, 13:48
Not known for certain, some say it's a snow protector... Either way mines in the garage now :smiley:

The air intake readout from the ECU says the temperature is 0.5 degrees warmer than that outside air, which is I guess down to the fact that in the standard car it's being drawn from the engine bay.   I might remove that plastic thing and do another run....
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 13 February 2014, 14:00
Not known for certain, some say it's a snow protector... Either way mines in the garage now :smiley:

The air intake readout from the ECU says the temperature is 0.5 degrees warmer than that outside air, which is I guess down to the fact that in the standard car it's being drawn from the engine bay.   I might remove that plastic thing and do another run....

You testing out panel filters there Monsta? I'd be interested to see how the standard filter compares to panel filters if you are?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 13 February 2014, 14:35
The air intake readout from the ECU says the temperature is 0.5 degrees warmer than that outside air, which is I guess down to the fact that in the standard car it's being drawn from the engine bay.   I might remove that plastic thing and do another run....

You testing out panel filters there Monsta? I'd be interested to see how the standard filter compares to panel filters if you are?
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Tempted but not on my plans yet, just playing my the Bluetooth OBDII adapter and the Android app!

Which panel filters are out there? 
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 13 February 2014, 14:49
pipercross, K&N and VWR somewhere, and no doubt there will be a green cotton filter out soon.

Just be interesting to see not only what benefit the panel filters give but also to see how our air box compares against the previous gen and if it really is as good as they say it is
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GiT1984 on 13 February 2014, 15:37
The BMC Panel filter I fitted to my Boxster S made a huge difference - throatier under load, with a properly loud induction scream at the top end of the rev range and much better throttle response! Worth every penny of it's £70 .... :)
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 13 February 2014, 15:48
The BMC Panel filter I fitted to my Boxster S made a huge difference - throatier under load, with a properly loud induction scream at the top end of the rev range and much better throttle response! Worth every penny of it's £70 .... :)

It is worth noting for our less experience tuning members that the noise from a naturally aspirated Porsche is significantly different to a 16v turbo, so dont get your hopes up peeps.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 13 February 2014, 16:37
pipercross, K&N and VWR somewhere, and no doubt there will be a green cotton filter out soon.

Just be interesting to see not only what benefit the panel filters give but also to see how our air box compares against the previous gen and if it really is as good as they say it is

I'd happily but the VWR one if I could find  it online... Any ideas on K&N vs Pipercross?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 13 February 2014, 16:46
pipercross, K&N and VWR somewhere, and no doubt there will be a green cotton filter out soon.

Just be interesting to see not only what benefit the panel filters give but also to see how our air box compares against the previous gen and if it really is as good as they say it is

I'd happily but the VWR one if I could find  it online... Any ideas on K&N vs Pipercross?

Me too, but Pipercross was the first one I came across so thats what I have, im happy with the choice as in usualy Pipercross Vs K&N conversations, pipercross is the more favoured one.

The pipercross one is more like a foamy filter that requires less oil than the K&N but the K&N has laps (ridges er peaks and troughs etc) so probably has a larger surface area, but combine that with the additional oil blocking the flow it may have similar air rates.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 13 February 2014, 17:25

Me too, but Pipercross was the first one I came across so thats what I have, im happy with the choice as in usualy Pipercross Vs K&N conversations, pipercross is the more favoured one.

The pipercross one is more like a foamy filter that requires less oil than the K&N but the K&N has laps (ridges er peaks and troughs etc) so probably has a larger surface area, but combine that with the additional oil blocking the flow it may have similar air rates.

Where's the best Pipercross bargains online then?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 13 February 2014, 18:27
Lol don't know about bargains but I bought my online from Awesome Gti there may be cheaper ones out there but we're talking a few quid, most are about 35 quid, you will need a recharger Kit, I'm lucky to have an old one from my old k&n but you can get cheaper ones in halfords I think, it's basically a bottle of soap and a bottle of oil lol
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GiT1984 on 13 February 2014, 21:40
The BMC Panel filter I fitted to my Boxster S made a huge difference - throatier under load, with a properly loud induction scream at the top end of the rev range and much better throttle response! Worth every penny of it's £70 .... :)

It is worth noting for our less experience tuning members that the noise from a naturally aspirated Porsche is significantly different to a 16v turbo, so dont get your hopes up peeps.

True - but the perceived difference is what we're after in terms of bangs for our bucks - is it not? Admittedly, since Porsche artificially restrict airflow just enough for the Boxster not to threaten the 911 - anything you do to improve on them makes a massive difference .....  :whistle:

Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 15 February 2014, 11:56
Not known for certain, some say it's a snow protector... Either way mines in the garage now :smiley:

The air intake readout from the ECU says the temperature is 0.5 degrees warmer than that outside air, which is I guess down to the fact that in the standard car it's being drawn from the engine bay.   I might remove that plastic thing and do another run....

You testing out panel filters there Monsta? I'd be interested to see how the standard filter compares to panel filters if you are?

As expected removing the plastic box assembly at the front of the intake so the vent feeds straight into the engine bay quite often means intake temperature is the same as the outside air temp.  The problem is that when you sit in traffic you get heat from the engine bay again so when you want that extra acceleration (i.e. standing start away from lights or a junction) there is still at 0.5 degree difference (hotter).

Going to try a cone filter next I think, skip the panel filter.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 15 February 2014, 12:06
Good luck with that I've been scouring the web for one, I know itg is developing one but nothing's released yet
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 15 February 2014, 12:33
Good luck with that I've been scouring the web for one, I know itg is developing one but nothing's released yet

Was thinking generic cone, the right size to fit on instead of the filter housing.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 15 February 2014, 15:05
Good luck with that I've been scouring the web for one, I know itg is developing one but nothing's released yet

Was thinking generic cone, the right size to fit on instead of the filter housing.

I see, well there is a few about you can buy but I'll be holding out for an enclosed system
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 15 February 2014, 16:28

I see, well there is a few about you can buy but I'll be holding out for an enclosed system

Yeah measured it up and 80mm is the size, been looking at this one;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIPERCROSS-AIR-FILTER-UNIVERSAL-INDUCTION-CONE-RUBBER-NECK-80mm-x-200mm-x-200mm-/151074983807 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIPERCROSS-AIR-FILTER-UNIVERSAL-INDUCTION-CONE-RUBBER-NECK-80mm-x-200mm-x-200mm-/151074983807)

But then there are a few K&N apollo filters kicking about...  need to research air flow figures first to make it worth while  :smiley:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 15 February 2014, 19:59
Theres a decent comparison on here http://m.fastcar.co.uk/2012/05/04/performance-car-air-filter-test/
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 16 February 2014, 21:10
So today I took the front bit Off of the filter to see if it made a difference, it didn't in either sound or speed so tomorrow I'll be putting it back together lol
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 17 February 2014, 09:35
So today I took the front bit Off of the filter to see if it made a difference, it didn't in either sound or speed so tomorrow I'll be putting it back together lol

Yeah I've left mine off for now as I'm going to do a long run on the motorway tomorrow and wanted to see if the MPG is slightly better with a 5 degree temp decrease!

I suspect it's going back together though  :smiley:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 17 February 2014, 11:38
Never thought about mpg, it was a 70 mile journey of mixed 50, 60 and a bit of 70 and I managed to return 47mpg by the time I got on my door, very boring but I promised the Mrs I would drive sensibly.

Thing is, I have nothing really to compare it against as I have driven so slow, I'm normally a 70odd driver :smiley:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 17 February 2014, 12:28
Never thought about mpg, it was a 70 mile journey of mixed 50, 60 and a bit of 70 and I managed to return 47mpg by the time I got on my car, very boring but I promised the Mrs I would drive sensibly.

Thing is, I have nothing really to compare it against as I have driven so slow, I'm normally a 70odd driver :smiley:

My weekly motorway run is about 85 miles on adaptive cruise (once on the motorway) and set to the same speed each week.  My best has been 38 MPG door to door on that particular route.

I'll let you know the outcome tomorrow! 
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 17 February 2014, 13:01
Jolly good, let me know how you get on as it may have to stay disconnected if i its better mpg but same performance.

Id have to say id be surprised, it looks like the path that is created by the plasitc trim is designed to vortex the air so i assumed this was for better mpg results, that said it might not be working out well in practice.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 18 February 2014, 11:31
How'd the run go Monsta?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 18 February 2014, 11:34
How'd the run go Monsta?

Well, I actually ended up going to visit a friend last night so my run was different to usual.   I'm not sure it made much difference though.  I did have a really good run up to London and got 41 mpg average but have nothing to compare it to.

Going to leave it as is for the rest of the week but I suspect there is no real benefit of leaving the assembly off!
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 18 February 2014, 11:36
How'd the run go Monsta?

Well, I actually ended up going to visit a friend last night so my run was different to usual.   I'm not sure it made much difference though.  I did have a really good run up to London and got 41 mpg average but have nothing to compare it to.

Going to leave it as is for the rest of the week but I suspect there is no real benefit of leaving the assembly off!

Seems there is no benefit or downside, probably best to put it back together so i dont lose the screws etc.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 24 February 2014, 13:39
https://www.facebook.com/APRAustralia

VW GOLF MK7 APR CARBONIO... cant find anywhere to buy it yet like lol
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 24 February 2014, 14:05
https://www.facebook.com/APRAustralia

VW GOLF MK7 APR CARBONIO... cant find anywhere to buy it yet like lol

That's a big lump of carbon, gonna be expensive!
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 24 February 2014, 14:15
https://www.facebook.com/APRAustralia

VW GOLF MK7 APR CARBONIO... cant find anywhere to buy it yet like lol

That's a big lump of carbon, gonna be expensive!

Hopefully not its only plastic, question is, get this or wait for ITG/VWR? Im not sure i like the look, maybe it will grow on me
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 24 February 2014, 14:19
https://www.facebook.com/APRAustralia

VW GOLF MK7 APR CARBONIO... cant find anywhere to buy it yet like lol

That's a big lump of carbon, gonna be expensive!

Hopefully not its only plastic, question is, get this or wait for ITG/VWR? Im not sure i like the look, maybe it will grow on me

If these are anything like the Mk5/Mk6 Carbonio intakes then being able to shift it for a decent price on ebay or on forums isn't going to be a problem if you change your mind.

I think I like the idea of the VWR one as it's as close to OEM as possible which can make dealing with VW easier.   

However, the Mk6 kit just had a big "R" logo on it, which bothers me a bit as it's a GTI.  I'd like to see it with "Volkswagen Racing" branding for the Mk7, would make the engine bay look really smart.

But then I guess the better performance is more important so the decision will need to be weighed up after seeing some stats.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 05 March 2014, 20:43
Do it monsta! Let me know how it goes lol http://fr-rtuning-shop.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=4074
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GTI7me on 05 March 2014, 21:00
Do it monsta! Let me know how it goes lol http://fr-rtuning-shop.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=4074

Christ! Expensive for a basic intake don't you think? Wonder if these intakes actually have any power gains?

J
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 05 March 2014, 21:22
If it was 300 incl vat then it would be ok but at near 400 it is far too expensive for an exposed cone, but in terms of gains, well milltek made 320 bhp and I only made 300, maybe it was the exhaust maybe it was this (see milltek car on top gear, looks similar) but for a mapped car any induction kit will help gains, on its own probably unnoticeable
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 05 March 2014, 23:10
Do it monsta! Let me know how it goes lol http://fr-rtuning-shop.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=4074

Christ! Expensive for a basic intake don't you think? Wonder if these intakes actually have any power gains?

J

Yeah I still think the correctly sized universal filter and one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281243348445?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281243348445?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649) would be just as good!

Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GTI7me on 05 March 2014, 23:29
Do it monsta! Let me know how it goes lol http://fr-rtuning-shop.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=4074

Christ! Expensive for a basic intake don't you think? Wonder if these intakes actually have any power gains?

J

Yeah I still think the correctly sized universal filter and one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281243348445?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281243348445?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649) would be just as good!

My thinking exactly Monsta. Something like this would do the same job?!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIPERCROSS-AIR-FILTER-UNIVERSAL-INDUCTION-CONE-RUBBER-NECK-90mm-x-100mm-x-150mm-/151203242199?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item23346a60d7 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIPERCROSS-AIR-FILTER-UNIVERSAL-INDUCTION-CONE-RUBBER-NECK-90mm-x-100mm-x-150mm-/151203242199?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item23346a60d7)

J
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 05 March 2014, 23:49

My thinking exactly Monsta. Something like this would do the same job?!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIPERCROSS-AIR-FILTER-UNIVERSAL-INDUCTION-CONE-RUBBER-NECK-90mm-x-100mm-x-150mm-/151203242199?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item23346a60d7 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIPERCROSS-AIR-FILTER-UNIVERSAL-INDUCTION-CONE-RUBBER-NECK-90mm-x-100mm-x-150mm-/151203242199?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item23346a60d7)

J

Yeah was looking at this, need to properly measure the pipe into the airbox though,  I think it's 80mm.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151074983807?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151074983807?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GTI7me on 05 March 2014, 23:53

My thinking exactly Monsta. Something like this would do the same job?!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIPERCROSS-AIR-FILTER-UNIVERSAL-INDUCTION-CONE-RUBBER-NECK-90mm-x-100mm-x-150mm-/151203242199?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item23346a60d7 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIPERCROSS-AIR-FILTER-UNIVERSAL-INDUCTION-CONE-RUBBER-NECK-90mm-x-100mm-x-150mm-/151203242199?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item23346a60d7)

J

Yeah was looking at this, need to properly measure the pipe into the airbox though,  I think it's 80mm.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151074983807?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151074983807?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

Hmm, could be worth looking into Monsta. Where do you get air box pipe from? Could do with making up a heat shield too.

J
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 06 March 2014, 09:26

Hmm, could be worth looking into Monsta. Where do you get air box pipe from? Could do with making up a heat shield too.

J

If you take the filter housing off there is a big pipe sitting there which is fairly short and goes straight into the turbo;

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2459142/GTI%20Forum/airbox.PNG)

I reckon if you take the box off, measure the internal diameter of the pipe you'll be able to pick up a decent foam filter to stick in there.  That ebay link to the heat shield should do for starters  :smiley:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GTI7me on 06 March 2014, 09:32
Good info Monsta. Ideally you would want the open filter to be as close to the left headlight as possible to try and avoid heat soak from the engine. Like you say, a heat shield and suitable hose should work. Wonder where you get intake hose from that can be shaped to fit?

J
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 06 March 2014, 10:34
Good info Monsta. Ideally you would want the open filter to be as close to the left headlight as possible to try and avoid heat soak from the engine. Like you say, a heat shield and suitable hose should work. Wonder where you get intake hose from that can be shaped to fit?

J

amazon or ebay, its full of it http://www.amazon.co.uk/76mm-Intake-Flexible-Induction-Black/dp/B00AKUGWBG
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GTI7me on 06 March 2014, 12:37
So? Who is going to be first to experiment then?  :rolleyes: :whistle:

J
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 06 March 2014, 13:08
i'd love to volunteer gents, and if i still own a leon i probably would but im trying not to do this one on the cheap lol
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 11 March 2014, 16:10
http://performancedrive.com.au/bbm-motorsport-tunes-volkswagen-golf-gti-mk7/

yet another system that i cant buy....
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GTI7me on 11 March 2014, 16:37
That intake looks so nice, as does the rest of that actually minus the stickers.

J
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 11 March 2014, 16:38
so where the hell is this 'Carbon Intake' from???
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 11 March 2014, 16:55
so where the hell is this 'Carbon Intake' from???

The interesting thing is the way it fits in, I'd say this is close to just cosmetic as they haven't got rid of that front plastic box that would free up the front vents to allow cool air straight in?

Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 11 March 2014, 19:42
I don't know, if you look to the right and zoom in, the under bit looks carbon, which may indicate a different under bit and maybe it's just the top bit that remains as standard?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: Gebara on 11 March 2014, 20:00
Hi everyone, im from Brasil, recently got a 2014 GTI and looking for some information i got here. Sorry entering like this in the post...

This intake you can find here: https://www.hg-motorsport.de/shop/index.php/cat/c18580_2-0-TFSi-K04-230-235-240-255-265.html

Sorry for my english! :grin:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 11 March 2014, 20:09
They look like mk6 engines, remember we are not tfsi but we are tsi, it is the right company though, hf series
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 12 March 2014, 18:51
I can confirm that the filter shown on the milltek car on the top gear article is the pipercross one, might be tempted to get it until the rest get their act together
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 12 March 2014, 19:46
I can confirm that the filter shown on the milltek car on the top gear article is the pipercross one, might be tempted to get it until the rest get their act together

Come on Graham, go down the DIY route, you know you want to!  The Pipercross kit is overpriced for what you get!
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 12 March 2014, 19:49
Lol how about I buy a pipercross and give you guys photos and dimensions to create cheap copies :smiley:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GTI7me on 13 March 2014, 09:44
Lol how about I buy a pipercross and give you guys photos and dimensions to create cheap copies :smiley:

Sounds good to me  :wink:

J
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 13 March 2014, 09:53
Let it be said that I am nothing if not a team player. Pre-order made, yes its expensive but no more than it was for a mk6 and at least I get a heat shield
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GTI7me on 13 March 2014, 13:08
Let it be said that I am nothing if not a team player. Pre-order made, yes its expensive but no more than it was for a mk6 and at least I get a heat shield

Looking forward to seeing it pal!

J
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 24 March 2014, 20:51
Little update, I'm now told it will be first 2 week's in April, not end of March as in advert, not sure what the delay is if it's already trade available but at least I can tell myself there just making it that bit better :smiley:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GTI7me on 24 March 2014, 21:24
Looking forward to seeing it Graham!

J
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 27 March 2014, 17:07
still waiting, but at least someone else has it for sale now which is comforting.

Also, drop down view of it in Millteks car

http://www.grmnorthampton.co.uk/products/pipercross-venom-intake
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GTI7me on 27 March 2014, 18:08
I'm genuine baffled to why this costs so much money! It's not exactly complicated to make an intake like that. It's not like its a carbon airbox or anything.

J
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GRM on 28 March 2014, 18:59
still waiting, but at least someone else has it for sale now which is comforting.

Also, drop down view of it in Millteks car

http://www.grmnorthampton.co.uk/products/pipercross-venom-intake

These are still on pre-order, but like you said on a previous post they should be ready by mid April  :smiley:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 28 March 2014, 19:55
I'm glad you've said that I was actually going to ring you up to ask when you got yours, any reason for the delay? And can you explain why it's expensive, I don't mind you're the same price like and I don't mind paying but it's not the most complex bit of kit in end so I am curious
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GRM on 29 March 2014, 09:44
I'm glad you've said that I was actually going to ring you up to ask when you got yours, any reason for the delay? And can you explain why it's expensive, I don't mind you're the same price like and I don't mind paying but it's not the most complex bit of kit in end so I am curious

I'm not sure what timescale you have been given but i have always been told it was mid April so i can't really comment on that.

In my opinion it is reasonably priced, it's a full intake which has been proven to massively improve intake flow and temperatures, includes everything you need and even has a heat shield.

I'd be more than happy to sort out a group buy to lower the price a bit if say 5 or more people where interested :)
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 31 March 2014, 21:39
Have you seen this?

(http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1397&stc=1&d=1395902585)

Some guy on that other forum has golf hold of his carbon intake from Germany.

http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337&page=2 (http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337&page=2)
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 01 April 2014, 08:07
looks like he is bolting a mk6 on it, surprised that they use pipercross filters
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 01 April 2014, 11:49
looks like he is bolting a mk6 on it, surprised that they use pipercross filters

I got the impression that the company he got it from sold it as something that would  be a straight fit...
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 01 April 2014, 11:50
Well maybe i dont know just looks identical to the mk6 intake they sell (HG Motorsport or whatever) I assume this just is a straight replace for the current airbox and has no additional piping that comes with it?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 01 April 2014, 12:03
Well maybe i dont know just looks identical to the mk6 intake they sell (HG Motorsport or whatever) I assume this just is a straight replace for the current airbox and has no additional piping that comes with it?

Dunno just saw the picture and got excited.  The guy has done a few bits to his - he's running coil overs - so I suspect he'll want a proper pipe attached to it.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 21 April 2014, 13:37
GRM, have you guys got yours in yet?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GRM on 22 April 2014, 21:32
GRM, have you guys got yours in yet?

As far as i'm aware no, I'll chase it up for you tomorrow so you have some kind of idea :)
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 23 April 2014, 09:28
APR posted this bad boy on Facebook yesterday;

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10269344_653706454698548_7296384515461350769_n.jpg)

Following on from this last month  :smiley:

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1898268_1453687001528484_2003938599_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 23 April 2014, 09:37
looks very tasty, wonder what the budget is for one of those bad boys, looks a bit tightly enclosed though I bet there is a minimal difference in sound
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 25 April 2014, 20:25
Well I've shot myself in the foot, the pipercross kit is now available at shark for 339, 40 less than I paid and I'm still waiting for mine delivered lol oh well won't be the first time my impatience has cost me money
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 25 April 2014, 20:27
Actually on 20 quid I can't count lol
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 26 April 2014, 09:40
Are you going to go to the dyno again when it's fitted?  I'd be interested to see what kind of difference it makes.  It is a lot of money though  :angry:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 26 April 2014, 12:11
Yes mate was hoping next Saturday but busy so have to be Saturday after don't know if it will increase bhp too much but should give a better graph if you know what I mean
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: perky85 on 27 April 2014, 14:39
I'm sure pipercross do an intake now.

I was down the garage this week, and they were fitting one to a Mk7 GTI.

I'm sure they said it was a pipercross one.

Maybe worth giving them a call, its at a VAG specialist in Telford
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 27 April 2014, 14:44
Yes they do, it's what I'm waiting for in the post...
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 06 May 2014, 08:00
ok guys sorry for the wait had this on since last friday but busy weekend.

If you need any other shots or info just as but i think its all there...

(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0003_zpsxpchfcko.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0003_zpsxpchfcko.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0004_zpszcmbfmrg.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0004_zpszcmbfmrg.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0011_zpszugcq21f.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0011_zpszugcq21f.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0006_zpser55u9wv.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0006_zpser55u9wv.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0007_zps8zkt0n3s.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0007_zps8zkt0n3s.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0005_zpsolc67acm.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0005_zpsolc67acm.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0008_zpsdaf53cs8.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0008_zpsdaf53cs8.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0009_zpsgsllyqn7.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0009_zpsgsllyqn7.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0010_zpsbtoyz6to.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0010_zpsbtoyz6to.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0012_zpsfugyvrqb.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0012_zpsfugyvrqb.jpg.html)

You're going to have to do a bit of adding up for the pipe length, due to its shape i had to take it in two parts as you can see above.

I have just noticed in all my photos above i never took any sizes of the heatshield, let me know if anyone needs that.

Retune scheduled for 24th now so we will have to wait and see if it offers any benefits but certainly sounds cool and feels stronger at a higher speeds.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 06 May 2014, 08:02
and the finished product

(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0018_zpse6mifizr.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0018_zpse6mifizr.jpg.html)

(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0019_zps5yrajtm7.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0019_zps5yrajtm7.jpg.html)

(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0020_zpsal0aivwd.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0020_zpsal0aivwd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 06 May 2014, 09:16
Those pictures aren't working for me, anyone else?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 06 May 2014, 09:35
Those pictures aren't working for me, anyone else?

Theyre showing up on mine mate, what are you seeing?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 06 May 2014, 12:37
Those pictures aren't working for me, anyone else?

Theyre showing up on mine mate, what are you seeing?

They're showing now - strange!
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 06 May 2014, 12:40

(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0020_zpsal0aivwd.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0020_zpsal0aivwd.jpg.html)

Looks good, how do you rate it in terms of noticeable differences?   

I see awesome have the VWR panel filters in now, wondering whether to get one of those or wait for the likes of APR to release their carbon ones...
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 06 May 2014, 13:32
cant notice much down low but higher up feels more urgent, wont get the most out of it until the tuning box is adapted.

If i was in your shoes id be waiting for the apr one, that looks amazing and ill probably swap over in 6 months or so.
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 06 May 2014, 15:45

If i was in your shoes id be waiting for the apr one, that looks amazing and ill probably swap over in 6 months or so.

Yeah could always grab the VWR one and sell on ebay when the APR one comes out I guess...
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 May 2014, 18:29
Does the vwr panel filter fit the gtd?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 06 May 2014, 20:35
Hope the link works
http://youtu.be/tECsL524XTE
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: virginVWman on 06 May 2014, 21:00
Hope the link works
http://youtu.be/tECsL524XTE

Sounds and looks awesome. Few nice mods. Have you tinted  passenger and drivers windows too? Side on looks v dark. Looks cracking
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 06 May 2014, 21:06
Tinted to the legal limit or so I was told...
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: virginVWman on 06 May 2014, 21:27
Tinted to the legal limit or so I was told...
Yeh just looked this up, as long as they allow 30% of light through they are fine. I got midnight tints on back 3, one away from limo but think il get front 2 done also. Looks great in white and think it will give the car bit more of that stealth vibe  :grin:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: ffrank on 06 May 2014, 23:10
Nice video Graham, sounds awesome. But, headphone users beware of 1min45 :D
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 07 May 2014, 13:13
Doors the vwr panel filter fit the gtd?

Looks like it :)

http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golf-mk-7/volkswagen-racing-high-flow-replacement-filters-golf-mk7 (http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golf-mk-7/volkswagen-racing-high-flow-replacement-filters-golf-mk7)
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 07 May 2014, 13:14
Hope the link works
http://youtu.be/tECsL524XTE

Sounds great, hard to tell what is the induction kit and what is the Powervalve exhaust!  You can hear the turbo more though, that's the induction kit isn't it?
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 07 May 2014, 13:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJW2xzAzkDU

spot the difference, the rasping noise is the induction kit (dump valvish sound)
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: monsta on 07 May 2014, 14:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJW2xzAzkDU

spot the difference, the rasping noise is the induction kit (dump valvish sound)

Nice, sounding really sweet.   I wish BCS weren't so far away from me  :sad:
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 07 May 2014, 16:02
just get it shipped to you, and then fitted by your local mechanic
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: GrahamFR on 03 July 2014, 11:22
http://www.awesomegti.com/volkswagen-racing-intake-system-vw-golf-mk7-gti

£40 cheaper than pipercross, assume that because of the standard pipework remaining
Title: Re: Pipercross Performance Filter
Post by: Raymondo on 06 July 2014, 10:06
Anyone tried BMC on their mk7 gtd/gti yet?

http://www.bmcairfilters.co.uk/car-filters/fb756-20_d1232_3.aspx